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[Happy Shepard]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Overused, and overrated.

It's good but it gets far too much praise.

 

Hipster.

PPR is more overrated IMO. I think because it's easier for console scrubs to use no-recoil weapons.

0/10

 

Just saying. None of the console scrubs seem to realise that the Hurricane is arguably the best weapon in the entire game. The most common reason I hear is that it's hard to deal with the recoil.

But amongst PC players (who, with our super advanced nano-technology, AKA keyboard and mouse, can actually control recoil fairly easily), the Hurricane is revered and given its rightful place at the top of the weapon pile.

Not trying to ruin your PC master race thing here, but the Hurricane is very easy to control on consoles. If you know what you're doing, of course.

[Ashen One]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Overused, and overrated.

It's good but it gets far too much praise.

 

Hipster.

PPR is more overrated IMO. I think because it's easier for console scrubs to use no-recoil weapons. PPR is a great weapon, but some people go on about it more than the Harrier. 

If they're not using the Harrier... it's the PPR/Typhoon or Piranha. Those are the 4 most commonly seen guns in Plat PUGS... besides of course, the Striker : )

The Striker probably isn't all that common on PC though, since they've proven they don't need an infinite missile exploit to glicth their way to the top of the leaderboards.

Cheating is just so much easier on the PC.

[Shezo]

MastahDisastah wrote...

I would use something different, but there aren't many options...
Imo we need an automatic assault rifle between the harrier and the phaeston, something around these lines.

Weight: 1.6-1.0
Rof: 450
Recoil: between phaeston and harrier
Accuracy: as above
Clip size: 35
Magazine size: 200-300
Reload duration: 1.37 (0.67 canceled)
Damage per bullet: 85-107

I will use that!
there's a huge gap between phaeston and harrier/ppr/typhoon...revenant is just plain crap and all the semi autos hurt fingers too much, besides there's a gap even in the weight...we have 0.5-0.8 and then a jump to 1.2-2.0 (level X), I'm talking about automatics of course.

Collector AR could be this kind of a gun.
If they will buff it, ofc.

[Arppis]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

 

Mookiemook85 wrote...

i dont know why bioware continues to ignore the assault rifles, there are like 3 or 4 pistols and sniper rifles each that outgun like 90% of the AR's in the game with almost every class. the typhoon is the most badass looking gun in the game iMO and its a glorified ****** shooter.

 

oh you did NOT just insult the Brophoon, did you...?

Never understood the hate for it since the recoil bug was removed. It's still a great gun, it could use a buff to base damage but it's still easily one of the best guns in the game.

True, it's a good gun. It and Harrier are basicaly only worthy automatic guns from the AR's. Sadly so. They should give us more of those gems.

[megabeast37215]

Ashen Earth wrote...

The Striker probably isn't all that common on PC though, since they've proven they don't need an infinite missile exploit to glicth their way to the top of the leaderboards.

Cheating is just so much easier on the PC.

It's easier and of higher quality. Why the hell would I want to have a Striker that shoots missles when I can have a Geth Pulse Rifle with infinite ammo that shoots missles, that explode and send flaming cows across the screen.
....and get paid 100 million credits for it.

[Arppis]

Happy Shepard wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Overused, and overrated.

It's good but it gets far too much praise.

 

Hipster.

PPR is more overrated IMO. I think because it's easier for console scrubs to use no-recoil weapons.

0/10

 

Just saying. None of the console scrubs seem to realise that the Hurricane is arguably the best weapon in the entire game. The most common reason I hear is that it's hard to deal with the recoil.

But amongst PC players (who, with our super advanced nano-technology, AKA keyboard and mouse, can actually control recoil fairly easily), the Hurricane is revered and given its rightful place at the top of the weapon pile.

Not trying to ruin your PC master race thing here, but the Hurricane is very easy to control on consoles. If you know what you're doing, of course.

Also this, I never run any recoil mods with the gun, it doesn't need any.

[Arppis]

Ashen Earth wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Overused, and overrated.

It's good but it gets far too much praise.

 

Hipster.

PPR is more overrated IMO. I think because it's easier for console scrubs to use no-recoil weapons. PPR is a great weapon, but some people go on about it more than the Harrier. 

If they're not using the Harrier... it's the PPR/Typhoon or Piranha. Those are the 4 most commonly seen guns in Plat PUGS... besides of course, the Striker : )

The Striker probably isn't all that common on PC though, since they've proven they don't need an infinite missile exploit to glicth their way to the top of the leaderboards.

Cheating is just so much easier on the PC.

It's not a proper AR.

That's why Harrier is such a used gun. Because it's a normal assault rifle that does actual damage.

They don't REALLY give us much options if we want that.

[megabeast37215]

Arppis wrote...

It's not a proper AR.

That's why Harrier is such a used gun. Because it's a normal assault rifle that does actual damage.

They don't REALLY give us much options if we want that.

The Saber is a proper AR... it just requires you to actually try and aim.

[sonofabumdooda]

Hard to belive that the entire universe can only come up with 1 (or 2) good Ass Rifles.

future universe
you suck.

[Arppis]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Arppis wrote...

It's not a proper AR.

That's why Harrier is such a used gun. Because it's a normal assault rifle that does actual damage.

They don't REALLY give us much options if we want that.

The Saber is a proper AR... it just requires you to actually try and aim.

Was talking about Striker.

But Saber is not an automatic thou, is it? It's more like Battle rifle. Which is cool and it has it's place.

But I ment that there isn't much options when it comes to actual AR's. Atleast most of them just tickle enemies.

[redlightning596]

I think pretty much the whole assault rifle category needs a good review. The Harrier should stay as the ideal weapon (and the Typhoon is for those that don't care for weight, even though it could use a small damage buff). But all the other assault rifles need to not feel like peashooters and be more distinct and worthwhile. Even some devs think assault rifles need buffs...

[N7-RedFox]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Well apparently the entire alliance military uses avengers. (Shepard included).

No wonder they couldn't stop Cerberus.... or the Reapers.

Its fine - in most of Sheps mug shots he's holding a Paladin Pistol. That gun is enough to take on the Reapers and Cerberus

[sonofabumdooda]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Well apparently the entire alliance military uses avengers. (Shepard included).

No wonder they couldn't stop Cerberus.... or the Reapers.

ha yeah
lets make the iconic ME ass rifle ever so slightly meh....
there you go BW/ea we could have an Avenger version 2...just re skin the old model and up its stats.

this also makes me think of anyone in a recon hood having no peripheral vision. = dead scouts.

[Arppis]

sonofabumdooda wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Well apparently the entire alliance military uses avengers. (Shepard included).

No wonder they couldn't stop Cerberus.... or the Reapers.

ha yeah
lets make the iconic ME ass rifle ever so slightly meh....
there you go BW/ea we could have an Avenger version 2...just re skin the old model and up its stats.

this also makes me think of anyone in a recon hood having no peripheral vision. = dead scouts.

Yes please. Because I want to use this gun, but the enemy health and DR doesn't allow it.

[sonofabumdooda]

Arppis wrote...

sonofabumdooda wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Well apparently the entire alliance military uses avengers. (Shepard included).

No wonder they couldn't stop Cerberus.... or the Reapers.

ha yeah
lets make the iconic ME ass rifle ever so slightly meh....
there you go BW/ea we could have an Avenger version 2...just re skin the old model and up its stats.

this also makes me think of anyone in a recon hood having no peripheral vision. = dead scouts.

Yes please. Because I want to use this gun, but the enemy health and DR doesn't allow it.

yeah
its a damn sexy gun
its got two sticky out bits for gods sake
it should be double good.

[Ubergrog]

There are right now only three AR's that are commonly viewed as "effective" and that number is as it stands because two weapons are only half effective.


1. The Harrier.  Highest DPS and good weight make it easily the most reliable AR in the game. Nothing in the Rare slot really competes with it even when at X and the harrier is at 1. Ammo boxes are easy to find, and sidearms are not a problem thanks to it's low weight.

2. The Prothean Particle Rifle.  Given the right upgrade, it can have a great ammo storage and combined with just about any ammo power makes it a really effective weapon.  It's reload time makes it slightly less effective then the harrier, because it is so easy to just run out to finish off that last kill. It's damage is great when in 'overdrive' mode.  It is slightly heavier then the Harrier.

1/2.  The Typhoon.  Only effective on non-recharge classes because it weighs a metric ton.  Better on high stability classes like the Destroyer and any turian you decide to give it to. Great on a krogan soldier or sentinel with grenades.

1/2. The Valkyrie. This would be a 'full' weapon, but without an avaliable means of leveling it up, it will not make "full" weapon status.  This weapon is a counterpart to the Harrier, instead of stupid-high DPS and non-existant ammo, it has a high DPS and a high ammo reserve. When at X, it will be a strong competitor to the Harrier simply due to it's greater flexibility and less dependance on ammo crates. It also is the same weight as the Harrier, making it friendly to some caster classes.

Why is the Saber not mentioned? It's firing style is far closer to a sniper rifle, and it's DPS is the lowest of all of the UR AR's.  The Valkyrie is just as accurate, lighter, and does more damage.  Fun on a few classes, and if you don't really care about maxing out damage to the enemy, but that's about it.

Modifié par Ubergrog, 03 novembre 2012 - 07:49 .

[Arppis]

There are a lot of shotguns that are good. I wonder why automatic guns always lag behind and seem rather impotent.

[Elementlordofmilk]

 No, i actually rarely see it, and I PUG Gold a fair bit, as risky as that is. I don't see many TGIs either.

I'm getting really tired of people whining about the Harrier, it's an UR FFS! 

[Kenadian]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Overused, and overrated.

It's good but it gets far too much praise.

 

Hipster.

PPR is more overrated IMO. I think because it's easier for console scrubs to use no-recoil weapons. PPR is a great weapon, but some people go on about it more than the Harrier. 

You just don't like the gun. Who's a scrub? WHO'S A SCRUBBY WUBBY? YOU'RE A SCRUBBY WUBBY! Yes you are!

[Syonica]

In all honesty, its not overused at all. I always see a diversity of weapons in rooms I join. Well theres probably 5 100% obsolete assault rifles but the rest get equal use.

[Asebstos]

If there was a challenge to get 10,000,000 points with the Harrier I feel as if a few people on my friends list would have that already.

Using a TGI? Harrier X.
Using a QME? Harrier X.
Using an Asari Valkyrie? Harrier X.
etc.

Once people get it at X its like they're addicted to the stupid thing. Personally I'm not a fan, I actually prefer the Argus over it. And yes, that's on Gold/Plat.