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Is the Harrier overused?


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#76
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krizalid9999 wrote...

The harrier is powerful but high recoil and low ammo makes it a second rate gun to me.

I'm still waiting for a geth pulse rifle boost so I stick with the phaeston.


I've never understood why people say the harrier has high recoil. It feels like it's nearly as stable as the geth pulse rifle. The only time it seems to have any noticable recoil is in cover and even then it's certainly not enough to mention imo.

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As others said, it's the best "traditional" AR.

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Doing the AR challenge so I am avoiding using Harrier and opting for all the other crappy ARs. Every now and then I would switch back to Harrier and feel how nice it is.

Overused, definitely, since it is the only decent AR.

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wngmv wrote...

Doing the AR challenge so I am avoiding using Harrier and opting for all the other crappy ARs. Every now and then I would switch back to Harrier and feel how nice it is.

Overused, definitely, since it is the only decent AR.


Amen.

#80
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High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


In what way does it only have mediocre accuracy?

I can hit things from the other side of the map with it.

#82
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Well, if you want to hammer down a nail, would you use hammer or rock? Yes you can nail it down with a rock, but why would you do that if you can use better tool for the job.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Could be because the only other halfway decent AR's (ie Typhoon and PPR) are both extremely heavy and both ramp-up weapons not suited for most classes.


I tried that Typhoon again - I will NOT ever use it on anything besides an N7 Destroyer is the conclusion I've come to.  Other problem with ramp-up, if you get staggered, you start all over, this goes for both Typhoon/PPR.  Stagger by enemies is about the worse mechanic really in the game, DO NOT take control away from the player.

Just craving/dying to get my PPR to X, its stuck at V right now.  Stagger still a problem, but at least its worthwhile taking over the Harrier, unlike the Typhoon which just doesn't feel right to me. :(

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On the teams I run with, no we all have a set of favorites and for the most part it's not one of them, in random games I have been playing it's by far the #1

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

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Asebstos wrote...

If there was a challenge to get 10,000,000 points with the Harrier I feel as if a few people on my friends list would have that already.

Using a TGI? Harrier X.
Using a QME? Harrier X.
Using an Asari Valkyrie? Harrier X.
etc.

Once people get it at X its like they're addicted to the stupid thing. Personally I'm not a fan, I actually prefer the Argus over it. And yes, that's on Gold/Plat.



Quarian males make sense with it. But the Valkyrie? Dafuq? That gal is totally attached to my Talon.

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Cyonan wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


In what way does it only have mediocre accuracy?

I can hit things from the other side of the map with it.


Mediocre is not bad.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


In what way does it only have mediocre accuracy?

I can hit things from the other side of the map with it.


Mediocre is not bad.


and the Harrier's accuracy is not mediocre.

it's very good.

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I don't mean to be a jerk, but English must not be your first language, as that sentence makes no sense.

It is similar to: "The Harrier is overused." This is correct.

So there, fixed. I don't use it just because of that. It makes things too easy, and it is everywhere. The lack of ammunition is also a huge downside. Other AR's can be good, anyways.

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The Harrier is the best AR in the game,I wouldn't consider it over used though.

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Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.


Phaeston has a much lower damage potential than the Harrier, Revenant can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's on an accuracy boosting class.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Could be because the only other halfway decent AR's (ie Typhoon and PPR) are both extremely heavy and both ramp-up weapons not suited for most classes.


This. PPR and Typhoon are only good on certain classes, the rest of the AR's kind of suck.

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Put a piercing mod on that Revenant and every bullet destined to scrape the mook's cover goes right into him. I think the Revenant is underrated, actually, though it's not quite the boss that it was on ME2. Still, pre-Harrier, it was the Lord of the Automatic ARs.

Modifié par Epsilon42, 03 novembre 2012 - 08:41 .


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Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.


Phaeston has a much lower damage potential than the Harrier, Revenant can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's on an accuracy boosting class.

The Phaeston it's a more accessible, jack of all trades gun. Revenant isn't a long range gun, you get up close and personal with it.

Why do people have the need to measure different things with the same stick.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.


Phaeston has a much lower damage potential than the Harrier, Revenant can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's on an accuracy boosting class.

The Phaeston it's a more accessible, jack of all trades gun. Revenant isn't a long range gun, you get up close and personal with it.

Why do people have the need to measure different things with the same stick.


Not measuring by the same stick, just providing context. The Harrier will perform better in all circumstances than these guns, save for ammo. People use it way more than any other AR because it's vastly better than only a few ARs. Every AR can be used effectively on gold, most on platinum. But few will be as reliable and flexible as a high-level Harrier.

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In defense of the Phaeston, if you like spamming overload on a Turian Sentinel with armor on and yet still spec for weapon damage, then you need the Phaeston. It's plenty viable on Gold, but don't expect to top leaderboards with it.

Damn leaderboards...everyone must be no. one.

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The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.


Phaeston's damage is lacking, you have to shoot too long to have desired effect, just isn't really effective as a weapon. Reventant's accuracy is pretty bad, it also slows you down as you hipfire it so it sucks at close range too.

Not very good guns.

Modifié par Arppis, 03 novembre 2012 - 09:03 .


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Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.


What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.


Phaeston has a much lower damage potential than the Harrier, Revenant can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's on an accuracy boosting class.

The Phaeston it's a more accessible, jack of all trades gun. Revenant isn't a long range gun, you get up close and personal with it.

Why do people have the need to measure different things with the same stick.


Not measuring by the same stick, just providing context. The Harrier will perform better in all circumstances than these guns, save for ammo. People use it way more than any other AR because it's vastly better than only a few ARs. Every AR can be used effectively on gold, most on platinum. But few will be as reliable and flexible as a high-level Harrier.

The Harrier is the AR with the higest DPS, and I can see that many characters do justice to the gun, but that doesn't make the other guns trite, that's the point I am trying to get across.

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