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[Arppis]

MastahDisastah wrote...

if only the collector assault rifle weighted 1.0 and had 30% more damage...

It would be something to consider then, for sure. Well, as a visual man... it still would look like a turd that fires shots. But atleast it would be useful turd.

[The Wayward Vagabond]

It still baffles me how that gun is as heavy as the Revenant.

[Kenadian]

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

Arppis wrote...

The Wayward Vagabond wrote...

High Damage
Low Clip.
Low Spare Capacity.
Mediocre Accuracy.
Heavier that it should be.

The gun packs a punch, but it's far from the best.

What other automatic AR's have for Harrier then? Remember, people like it because it's automatic and traditional gun. Not some UFO gun, not some burst fire rifle, not some singleshot. Honest to god automatic.

It's best from those guns.

I guess the Phaeston and Revenant don't count as automatic rifles.

Phaeston has a much lower damage potential than the Harrier, Revenant can't hit the broadside of a barn unless it's on an accuracy boosting class.

The Phaeston it's a more accessible, jack of all trades gun. Revenant isn't a long range gun, you get up close and personal with it.

Why do people have the need to measure different things with the same stick.

Not measuring by the same stick, just providing context. The Harrier will perform better in all circumstances than these guns, save for ammo. People use it way more than any other AR because it's vastly better than only a few ARs. Every AR can be used effectively on gold, most on platinum. But few will be as reliable and flexible as a high-level Harrier.

The Harrier is the AR with the higest DPS, and I can see that many characters do justice to the gun, but that doesn't make the other guns trite, that's the point I am trying to get across.

I know. And I agree. My point is just that most people jump to it because it's this godly gun and, to many, the only AR that truly feels like an AR.

[landylan]

It's the best rifle. Pretty much all the others suck. The saber's okay too, but I like the Harrier better because it feels versatile like an assault rifle should be.

[Tonymac]

SneakyDuc wrote...

Not a nerf thread just a general question. I don't play public often, but I did for the holloween challange and in ten matches it was in each match at least a 1 in 4 and usually more so. It was different groups so it my not be a common thing. I have my favorite guns, but I couldn't imagine using the same gun all the time. can anyone confirm this or anyone have thoughts on this?

In my opinion, every single AR in this game is trash.  The devs really have something against ARs - I am not sue why.  I think it has to do with they have never used them in real life - mixed in with a bit of Mass Effect hating on games with good guns.   You know - like shooters.

When a Collector uses their rifle on you - it tears you up.  Really badly.  Same with the Geth.  When you use their guns, its about perfect for killing swarmers.    They do pathetic damage - and are only good with ammo consumables and densified ammo or AR mod (15%).  Basically, ARs are junk in this game.

The Harrier is just the best of a terrible lot.  

[Epsilon42]

Tonymac wrote...

SneakyDuc wrote...

Not a nerf thread just a general question. I don't play public often, but I did for the holloween challange and in ten matches it was in each match at least a 1 in 4 and usually more so. It was different groups so it my not be a common thing. I have my favorite guns, but I couldn't imagine using the same gun all the time. can anyone confirm this or anyone have thoughts on this?

In my opinion, every single AR in this game is trash.  The devs really have something against ARs - I am not sue why.  I think it has to do with they have never used them in real life - mixed in with a bit of Mass Effect hating on games with good guns.   You know - like shooters.

When a Collector uses their rifle on you - it tears you up.  Really badly.  Same with the Geth.  When you use their guns, its about perfect for killing swarmers.    They do pathetic damage - and are only good with ammo consumables and densified ammo or AR mod (15%).  Basically, ARs are junk in this game.

The Harrier is just the best of a terrible lot.  

True, true, and true.  The Harrier rises to the top because it's the only cream in that crop.

But I think the Phaeston(still needs a buff) and Revenant are overlooked too often.

[Veritas3489]

I did host a gold PUG the other day. All 3 other players were using the harrier. I'll have to say I don't usually have the problem of being annoyed because I'm having trouble finding things to kill on gold. I did manage to top them with my black widow though . Its hard to beat taking down a gold atlas in 7 shots.

[ToaOrka]

It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.

Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.

[Tallgeese_VII]

Yes. It is extremely popular.
There is almost always at least 1 person using in PUG gold.

Absolutely has nothing to do with the class they play, and often they do at least some damage with Harrier equipped.

Modifié par Tallgeese_VII, 04 novembre 2012 - 02:43 .

[ToaOrka]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.

Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.

 

Please tell me you're joking.

If you're insinuating that the Harrier isn't the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I sincerely hope you're joking.

[Zaidra]

Ledgend1221 wrote...

Yeah, mainly due to the other AR's not being too great.

The hurricane SMG is easily better than all other ARs besides the Harrier and the Saber (if used right).

Why use assault rifles when you have something that weighs less and does more damage?

They need to buff almost all of the ARs.

Modifié par Zaidra, 04 novembre 2012 - 03:08 .

[Xaijin]

Is the harrier overused?

Yes.

Why?

There are exactly zero alternatives.

[Maker MEDA]

More Ultra Rare rifle then Harrier would be nice.

[Docwagon1776]

Not by me....I STILL DON'T HAVE ONE.

[Aveus]

Flaming Snake wrote...

Very over-used... Saw an N7 128, Asari Adept, with a Harrier I. No gear/consumables, and only a stability mod on it... ON GOLD.

I mean really, as soon as they unlock it, it's the only gun people use, for obvious reasons. But they seem to think it's an instant win button.

This happens too much I think, it seems that a lot of people seem to think that as soon as they unlock the Harrier they're ready for gold straight away as you see N7's of 50-150 dropping into gold with a Harrier with next to no mods or gear.

[Computron2000]

The harrier is light enough if you take the 20% lighter weapons evo 6 that some classes have and the increased encumberance evo 4. It moves from 135% to 155% which makes it good enough as a caster weapon. The cost is the opportunity cost in having to get up to evo 6 rather than just staying at evo 4

Modifié par Computron2000, 04 novembre 2012 - 03:21 .

[Quackjack]

Noooo....

*My Quarian Infiltrator puts her Harrier away*

[ToaOrka]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.

Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.

 

Please tell me you're joking.

If you're insinuating that the Harrier isn't the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I sincerely hope you're joking.

 

Harrier requires you to be a decent aim and constantly hit the ammo boxes. It also has recoil and a slight spread.

PPR has no recoil, pinpoint accuracy and infinite ammo. Guess it's the easiest thing to use since pre-nerf Krysae huh?  

I guess you console scrubs never seeing the true power of consistent headshots have a hard time understanding properly. But unless aiming is no longer a skill, your statement that using the harrier takes 'no skill' is simply untrue.

If the PPR were the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I wouldn't be seeing it in lobbies as often as I see the Disciple or Geth Pulse Rifle.

The thing is, aiming isn't really a skill once you get to a certain point in the game, it's second nature. So how about you quit trying to feel superior to me by one, playing on something that Mass Effect was never meant for, and two, assuming something as second nature as riding a bike can be considered a skill.

[Lord_Dweedle]

Needs nerfing, ruins bronze and silver games