I love the Phaeston, Avenger, and Harrier. As been stated multiple times, they all FEEL like assault rifles. However, the Harrier is vastly superior in damage, so higher difficulties force someones hand to use the Harrier exclusively if you want an actual assault rifle.
Is the Harrier overused?
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#127
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:31
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Only by the people who have it.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:39
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ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.
Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.
Please tell me you're joking.
If you're insinuating that the Harrier isn't the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I sincerely hope you're joking.
Harrier requires you to be a decent aim and constantly hit the ammo boxes. It also has recoil and a slight spread.
PPR has no recoil, pinpoint accuracy and infinite ammo. Guess it's the easiest thing to use since pre-nerf Krysae huh?![=]](https://lvlt.forum.bioware.com/public/style_emoticons/default/sideways.png)
I guess you console scrubs never seeing the true power of consistent headshots have a hard time understanding properly. But unless aiming is no longer a skill, your statement that using the harrier takes 'no skill' is simply untrue.
If the PPR were the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I wouldn't be seeing it in lobbies as often as I see the Disciple or Geth Pulse Rifle.
The thing is, aiming isn't really a skill once you get to a certain point in the game, it's second nature. So how about you quit trying to feel superior to me by one, playing on something that Mass Effect was never meant for, and two, assuming something as second nature as riding a bike can be considered a skill.
:lol: Aiming isn't really a skill. Now I've heard everything!
I am superior to you BTW. Not just because I play on PC, but because I'm a better player as well. 
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:41
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Although the recent nerf may have ****ed this up, most of the AR's are still somewhat viable on a Destroyer. Devastator Mode ups magazine size (up to a max of 43 rounds for the Harrier... Which means only about 2 or so reserve clips), RoF, and damage output. Before I got my hands on the Harrier pre-nerf, I was using only the Phaeston, and doing pretty severe damage.
Not touching the Revenant anymore after doing the AR challenge for it. Used a stability mod AND stability equipment, and that thing was STILL pulling my screen up as if I was dual-wielding SMGs back in Halo 2. Killed **** like nobody's business at mid-range though...
Not touching the Revenant anymore after doing the AR challenge for it. Used a stability mod AND stability equipment, and that thing was STILL pulling my screen up as if I was dual-wielding SMGs back in Halo 2. Killed **** like nobody's business at mid-range though...
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#130
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:49
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Prefer the Saber then the Harrier. Harrier feels messy and that noise it makes... sounds inadequate.
I user Saber as often as other use the Harrier.
I user Saber as often as other use the Harrier.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:49
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I think there are other AR's being used now that the challenges are up, but definitely on difficulties higher than silver you will see things like harrier saber or typhoon being used
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:51
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Alot of people use it due to the fact that other than the saber, all other assault rifles either suck or require amps or specific characters to work well. It wont get nerfed as the limited ammo is its saving grace.
#133
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:52
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I lol'dToaOrka wrote...
If the PPR were the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I wouldn't be seeing it in lobbies as often as I see the Disciple or Geth Pulse Rifle.
The thing is, aiming isn't really a skill once you get to a certain point in the game, it's second nature. So how about you quit trying to feel superior to me by one, playing on something that Mass Effect was never meant for, and two, assuming something as second nature as riding a bike can be considered a skill.
#134
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:54
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I have a PPR and my Harrier at X. I use the Harrier every time because it actually feels like the weapon it is supposed to be.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 03:55
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The Harrier is starting to become overused, even on Bronze matches. I know the gun is powerful, but using a Harrier X on Bronze is like putting the difficultly on SP to something easier than casual. The Harrier is a gun that should be used in Silver matches and above. This is just my opinion.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:01
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DavorTheDragon wrote...
The Harrier is starting to become overused, even on Bronze matches. I know the gun is powerful, but using a Harrier X on Bronze is like putting the difficultly on SP to something easier than casual. The Harrier is a gun that should be used in Silver matches and above. This is just my opinion.
A harrier X feels like overkill on gold. Had 2 guys in my lobby with them at once. I was bored that game.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:03
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DavorTheDragon wrote...
The Harrier is starting to become overused, even on Bronze matches. I know the gun is powerful, but using a Harrier X on Bronze is like putting the difficultly on SP to something easier than casual. The Harrier is a gun that should be used in Silver matches and above. This is just my opinion.
If you have a harrier x and play bronze pubs you need help same goes for particle x which I also encountered recently
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:14
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I barely ever see it in PUGs, for whatever reason.
Probably because almost all of the PUGs I play with are awful.
Probably because almost all of the PUGs I play with are awful.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:15
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Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.
Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.
Please tell me you're joking.
If you're insinuating that the Harrier isn't the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I sincerely hope you're joking.
Harrier requires you to be a decent aim and constantly hit the ammo boxes. It also has recoil and a slight spread.
PPR has no recoil, pinpoint accuracy and infinite ammo. Guess it's the easiest thing to use since pre-nerf Krysae huh?
I guess you console scrubs never seeing the true power of consistent headshots have a hard time understanding properly. But unless aiming is no longer a skill, your statement that using the harrier takes 'no skill' is simply untrue.
If the PPR were the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I wouldn't be seeing it in lobbies as often as I see the Disciple or Geth Pulse Rifle.
The thing is, aiming isn't really a skill once you get to a certain point in the game, it's second nature. So how about you quit trying to feel superior to me by one, playing on something that Mass Effect was never meant for, and two, assuming something as second nature as riding a bike can be considered a skill.
Aiming isn't really a skill. Now I've heard everything!
I'm pretty sure saying that you're superior to someone inherently makes you inferior to them because you're choosing to be arrogant and pompous, but whatever.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:20
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Actually, there's nothing wrong with the English here save the incomplete sentence.Tristam25 wrote...
I don't mean to be a jerk, but English must not be your first language, as that sentence makes no sense.
It is similar to: "The Harrier is overused." This is correct.
So there, fixed. I don't use it just because of that. It makes things too easy, and it is everywhere. The lack of ammunition is also a huge downside. Other AR's can be good, anyways.
This is correct: Is the Harrier an overused assault rifle?
Though correct grammer is not all that important considering it's not a hard question to understand.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:20
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parico wrote...
DavorTheDragon wrote...
The Harrier is starting to become overused, even on Bronze matches. I know the gun is powerful, but using a Harrier X on Bronze is like putting the difficultly on SP to something easier than casual. The Harrier is a gun that should be used in Silver matches and above. This is just my opinion.
If you have a harrier x and play bronze pubs you need help same goes for particle x which I also encountered recently
I'm saying that I see people bringing a Harrier and level 3 consumables into bronze matches. I don't use the Harrier at all.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:21
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Not to kill your thunder here, but being better at a video game than another person doesn't make you superior to them. It just means you're the better player.Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
Lord_Sirian wrote...
ToaOrka wrote...
It's overused because it's easy and requires no skill to use.
Once people figure out the Particle Rifle, the Harrier will be a thing of the past.
Please tell me you're joking.
If you're insinuating that the Harrier isn't the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I sincerely hope you're joking.
Harrier requires you to be a decent aim and constantly hit the ammo boxes. It also has recoil and a slight spread.
PPR has no recoil, pinpoint accuracy and infinite ammo. Guess it's the easiest thing to use since pre-nerf Krysae huh?
I guess you console scrubs never seeing the true power of consistent headshots have a hard time understanding properly. But unless aiming is no longer a skill, your statement that using the harrier takes 'no skill' is simply untrue.
If the PPR were the easiest thing to use since the pre-nerf Krysae, I wouldn't be seeing it in lobbies as often as I see the Disciple or Geth Pulse Rifle.
The thing is, aiming isn't really a skill once you get to a certain point in the game, it's second nature. So how about you quit trying to feel superior to me by one, playing on something that Mass Effect was never meant for, and two, assuming something as second nature as riding a bike can be considered a skill.
Aiming isn't really a skill. Now I've heard everything!
Although, his logic is filled with holes.(Stupid typos)
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:21
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Operator m1 wrote...
DavorTheDragon wrote...
The Harrier is starting to become overused, even on Bronze matches. I know the gun is powerful, but using a Harrier X on Bronze is like putting the difficultly on SP to something easier than casual. The Harrier is a gun that should be used in Silver matches and above. This is just my opinion.
A harrier X feels like overkill on gold. Had 2 guys in my lobby with them at once. I was bored that game.
My point exactly. The Harrier is way overused.
#144
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:23
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I love the Revnant. Slap that baby on a T-Sol and admire the carnage.
#145
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:25
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IMO, its the most "assault rifle" like assault rifle. Does good damage and has a reasonable weight, I like using it on my quarian female engineer, quarian female infiltrator, got good synergy in it.
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Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 04:34
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Is the harrier over-used? Umm... ammo crates are
#147
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 05:09
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MastahDisastah wrote...
I would use something different, but there aren't many options...
Imo we need an automatic assault rifle between the harrier and the phaeston, something around these lines.
Weight: 1.6-1.0
Rof: 450
Recoil: between phaeston and harrier
Accuracy: as above
Clip size: 35
Magazine size: 200-300
Reload duration: 1.37 (0.67 canceled)
Damage per bullet: 85-107
I will use that!
there's a huge gap between phaeston and harrier/ppr/typhoon...revenant is just plain crap and all the semi autos hurt fingers too much, besides there's a gap even in the weight...we have 0.5-0.8 and then a jump to 1.2-2.0 (level X), I'm talking about automatics of course.
Oh lord this boy said the revenant is crap, please give this kid a stability mod and any soldier class.
#148
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 05:11
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Over used no but in the last week or so I have noticed a lot of people using it.
#149
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 05:18
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Some many people care about DPS.
Saw a list on this thread that didnt mention the saber because of its low DPS (I laughed at that because it shouldnt matter).
No one mentions the striker unless its in jest about someone cheating. (Is it no possible that I just know how to use that gun?)
Saw a list on this thread that didnt mention the saber because of its low DPS (I laughed at that because it shouldnt matter).
No one mentions the striker unless its in jest about someone cheating. (Is it no possible that I just know how to use that gun?)
#150
Posté 04 novembre 2012 - 05:24
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Good Sniper Rifles: (I don't really know, never use them)
Good SMGs: Hurricane, Collector SMG.
Good Shotguns: GPS, Wraith, Raider, Claymore, Reegar, Piranha.
Good Pistols: Talon, Scorpion, Paladin, Carnifex, Acolyte
Good Assault Rifles: Saber, Particle Rifle, Harrier.
There are technically 15 assault rifles, but most of them are **** except for the three mentioned above, and of those, the Harrier is the easiest to understand. It has no charge-up mechanic, and the rapid-fire in short bursts is generally what people want from Assault Rifles, so if people are going to use an assault rifle, nine times out of ten, randoms will go with the Harrier.
Good SMGs: Hurricane, Collector SMG.
Good Shotguns: GPS, Wraith, Raider, Claymore, Reegar, Piranha.
Good Pistols: Talon, Scorpion, Paladin, Carnifex, Acolyte
Good Assault Rifles: Saber, Particle Rifle, Harrier.
There are technically 15 assault rifles, but most of them are **** except for the three mentioned above, and of those, the Harrier is the easiest to understand. It has no charge-up mechanic, and the rapid-fire in short bursts is generally what people want from Assault Rifles, so if people are going to use an assault rifle, nine times out of ten, randoms will go with the Harrier.
