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#2551
McBlade223

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@Wavion: True, a man can dream. Amen to that.

@MageTarot: Lol, sounds like sage advice to me ;)

On the note of the DLC, I came across an article that states hopefully, we should hear details on it from Bioware later on this week.

http://www.escapistm...ealed-Next-Week

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PKchu wrote...

Hey, on the topic of Stargazer scene - I've had all the technical elements on that down for awhile - sound replacement, encoding the bink video, etc.

Was just having trouble splicing the actual video together because I suck at that. Only thing holding things up.

Right now I'm probably only going to do the Tali version instead of one for every LI like I originally planned, but since they confirmed no ending post content, might as well work on it again.

I'm gonna try this again, but if it fails to look "real" - if someone has decent skills in editing video and would like to help, let me know.


If you need, I might be able to help with video editing. I am not a pro by any means, but I do have nice enough software (imovie). So if no one else turns up I could try and help

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Hey guys, good news everyone! Made some rather big advances on the weekend, finally found that damn problem I was working on since before Christmas. Got a request though: I am messing around with conditionals at the moment and I really need to test that what I am doing works for every situation. I am focusing on LIs right now.
I have working saves for Liara, Garrus, and Miranda which means I could use saves for
-Ashlay (got her)
-Kaidan
-Tali
-Jack
-Cortez
-Traynor
If you have a profile with one of these which has a savegame right at the end (preferably a backed up Autosave from Anderson's death scene but if it's anywhere during "Citadel: The Return" that's fine as well), please send me a pm.
Oh, it's imortant though that the saves do not need Omega or the firefight DLC. I can't load the saves if they were created with these installed.
Cheers!

cfs3corsair: Thanks. Not really necessary to relay the youtube stuff here though. I still read all the comments over there although it may take me a while to answer sometimes (if you haven't done so already :)).
About the Anderson issue though, yes, I am also of the opinion that his death fits perfectly. However, the changes thatingotjuh proposes should be easy to implement from a technical pov. I referred him to the ME3Explorer forums so maybe he'll come up with his own version and publish it for those who really want Anderson to live as well.

@MageTarot: It's probably the safest way to uninstall, update and re-install. That said, I never uninstall. A re-install overwrites all the relevant files again anyway so it shouldn't matter whether they were changes by the mod, the update or whatever. Never had a problem with this. However, that's just my messy way of handling things. the "proper" way would involve an uninstall for sure :.

Modifié par MrFob, 18 février 2013 - 06:22 .


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MrFob wrote...

Hey guys, good news everyone! Made some rather big advances on the weekend, finally found that damn problem I was working on since before Christmas. Got a request though: I am messing around with conditionals at the moment and I really need to test that what I am doing works for every situation. I am focusing on LIs right now.
I have working saves for Liara, Garrus, and Miranda which means I could use saves for
-Ashlay
-Kaidan
-Tali
-Jack
-Cortez
-Traynor
If you have a profile with one of these which has a savegame right at the end (preferably a backed up Autosave from Anderson's death scene but if it's anywhere during "Citadel: The Return" that's fine as well), please send me a pm.
Oh, it's imortant though that the saves do not need Omega or the firefight DLC. I can't load the saves if they were created with these installed.
Cheers!


Hey Mr.Fob. I have a save with Ashley if you need it. I don't have Leviathan, Omega, or the weapon packs.

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chris2365 wrote...
Hey Mr.Fob. I have a save with Ashley if you need it. I don't have Leviathan, Omega, or the weapon packs.


Cool, got to quickly run an errand, then I'll be sending you a pm (still got to answer yours from yesterday anyway).

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great to see you are making progress. nothing is more annoying than to mark time".

sidenote ... can anyone provide an ng+-save for mrfob? i heard that there were problems with mehem on ng+ playthroughs?

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 17 février 2013 - 11:20 .


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Dr_Extrem wrote...

great to see you are making progress. nothing is more annoying than to mark time".

sidenote ... can anyone provide an ng+-save for mrfob? i heard that there were problems with mehem on ng+ playthroughs?


All the NG+ problems I heard of turned out to have different causes in the end. I haven't seen a single reference to NG+ in the files either so I wouldn't really know what to change. The saves are mainly good for testing things, I already changed. In order to investigate any problems specific to NG+, I'd primarily need a description of what goes wrong in order to check it out. But yea, if anyone has a problem with NG+ while everything else works, let me know, definitely.

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MrFob wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

great to see you are making progress. nothing is more annoying than to mark time".

sidenote ... can anyone provide an ng+-save for mrfob? i heard that there were problems with mehem on ng+ playthroughs?


All the NG+ problems I heard of turned out to have different causes in the end. I haven't seen a single reference to NG+ in the files either so I wouldn't really know what to change. The saves are mainly good for testing things, I already changed. In order to investigate any problems specific to NG+, I'd primarily need a description of what goes wrong in order to check it out. But yea, if anyone has a problem with NG+ while everything else works, let me know, definitely.


i hope you are right and this problem is not a problem at all.

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MrFob wrote...
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Cheers!

cfs3corsair: Thanks. Not really necessary to relay the youtube stuff here though. I still read all the comments over there although it may take me a while to answer sometimes (if you haven't done so already :)).
:.

yeah sorry about that, just was trying to help a couple of them asap. Wont happen again

Modifié par cfs3corsair, 18 février 2013 - 12:42 .


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cfs3corsair wrote...
yeah sorry about that, just was trying to help a couple of them asap. Wont happen again


Nah, no worries, can be interesting for people to discuss this stuff anyway. Just wanted to let you know that I'm still reading the comments.

Oh, also, here is a question for you guys: Which LIs can be dead but still flagged as LIs by the end of the game if you don't count the Low EMS beam run (maybe the Gibbet savvy folks can help me out here).
The way I figure it so far:
Liara: is always alive and part of the crew at the end
Garrus: is always alive and part of the crew at the end
Tali: Can be an LI but dead if you chose the Geth (is she still flagged as LI if you did that)
Jack: Can be dead (banshee-ed) and an LI if you didn't do the Grissom mission (same question as for Tali, is she still flagged then?)
Miranda: Can be dead if you got her killed on Sanctuary (again, would she still be flagged as LI then?)
Ash/Kaidan: Can't die in ME3. Can only be "already dead" since ME1. What happens if you romanced them in ME1, got them killed and never romanced everyone after that?
Cortez: Can he still have the shuttle accident if you romanced him? I guess not but I am not sure.
Traynor: is always alive and part of the crew at the end
Allers: Who cares about Allers? :devil: No seriously, she is not part of the original ending variables (maybe apart from a flashback, and I am not even sure about that one) so I won't include her either.

Any info would be appreciated!

Modifié par MrFob, 18 février 2013 - 06:02 .


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MrFob wrote...

Nah, no worries, can be interesting for people to discuss this stuff anyway. Just wanted to let you know that I'm still reading the comments.


Ok good to know :) Thanks

As for the LI's...I actually heard Liara can die in the beam run with a super low ems score. I havent experienced this myself though... I go to great lengths to keep my crewmates breathing :)

Modifié par cfs3corsair, 18 février 2013 - 07:23 .


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cfs3corsair wrote...

As for the LI's...I actually heard Liara can die in the beam run with a super low ems score. I havent experienced this myself though... I go to great lengths to keep my crewmates breathing :)


I really want to help MrFob out on this but I'm in the same boat, none of my saves have dead love interests.

I'll list what I know though:
  • ME1 love interests can die on Virmire but this happens before the final romance lock, I don't believe it counts as a complete romance
  • ME2 love interests can be locked in before their deaths at the Collector Base, not sure how this affects ME3
  • Jack can die without ever seeing her in ME3, doesn't unlock paramour achievement, not sure about flags
  • Tali and Miranda can die after the achievement but before the beam run.
  • Thane, Jacob, and Allers don't count as LIs in ME3
  • You can only lock Kelly if she survives the Cerberus assult
  • Steve will survive if you lock the romance
  • Virmire Survivor can be killed or not become a crew member before romance lock in ME3
I agree that Liara and Samantha are guaranteed alive with even moderate EMS. Garrus will be alive assuming he survived ME2.

Modifié par wwinters99, 18 février 2013 - 11:06 .


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Ash/Kaidan can die in the Citadel coup if you can't convince them Udina is the traitor rather than Shepard

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iakus wrote...

Ash/Kaidan can die in the Citadel coup if you can't convince them Udina is the traitor rather than Shepard


This is true.  I've never had any squadmates die in ME3, except for Thane, Mordin, Legion, and Anderson (if you want to count him). Oh, I also had Wrex die in my renegade playthrough.

However, this video shows how to lose most of your squadmates in ME3 (warning: depressing as hell):

EDIT: you don't have to actually WATCH the video - the description pretty much says it all.

Also, Kelly Chambers dies if you don't get her to change her name and appearance... not sure if that's in the video or not.
Of course she (and everyone else) presumably dies when the Reapers take over the citadel and move it to Earth.

Modifié par wavion, 18 février 2013 - 03:39 .


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wavion wrote...
Also, Kelly Chambers dies if you don't get her to change her name... not sure if that's in the video or not.
Of course she (and everyone else) presumably dies when the Reapers take over the citadel and move it to Earth.


I have played through ME2 and 3 multiple times at this point, and have never heard mention of Kelly after 2... musta missed something :/
About everyone dying on the Citadel... if the rumours are true, about the Reckoning DLC being on the Citadel, perhaps the citadel being attacked by the Reapers is what the DLC is about...? I dunno. Off topic :P 

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cfs3corsair wrote...

wavion wrote...
Also, Kelly Chambers dies if you don't get her to change her name... not sure if that's in the video or not.
Of course she (and everyone else) presumably dies when the Reapers take over the citadel and move it to Earth.


I have played through ME2 and 3 multiple times at this point, and have never heard mention of Kelly after 2... musta missed something :/


If you saved her in ME2 (you must go through the Omega 4 relay immediately after your crew is abducted - no missions inbetween), then she will be in the Refugee camp at the docks.


About everyone dying on the Citadel... if the rumours are true, about the Reckoning DLC being on the Citadel, perhaps the citadel being attacked by the Reapers is what the DLC is about...? I dunno. Off topic :P


That's as good a guess as any.

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wavion wrote...


If you saved her in ME2 (you must go through the Omega 4 relay immediately after your crew is abducted - no missions inbetween), then she will be in the Refugee camp at the docks.


Really? Because I saved my crew and never saw her once... :/

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Really? Because I saved my crew and never saw her once... :/


Maybe there are more variables, I don't know. But, she has been in each of my ME3 playthroughs (3 so far).
One thing - I always bring Kelly up to my quarters in ME2, because I need somebody to feed my fish, and she doesn't count against the other love interests. Could that be a factor?

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wavion wrote...

Really? Because I saved my crew and never saw her once... :/


Maybe there are more variables, I don't know. But, she has been in each of my ME3 playthroughs (3 so far).
One thing - I always bring Kelly up to my quarters in ME2, because I need somebody to feed my fish, and she doesn't count against the other love interests. Could that be a factor?

just did some research appears it is

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btw I may be reporting the first MEHEM glitch. It seems I cannot display any MP banners whatsoever. Even though I know I have them :/ Don't know if that is MEHEM related, or game glitch related. Just so you know

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Just wanted to say thanks for the mod, nice for a warm/fuzzier ending even mixed with Anderson's death


EDIT: And yes, you have to invite Kelly up to your quarters at least once. 

Modifié par Belisarius25, 18 février 2013 - 04:06 .


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cfs3corsair wrote...

btw I may be reporting the first MEHEM glitch. It seems I cannot display any MP banners whatsoever. Even though I know I have them :/ Don't know if that is MEHEM related, or game glitch related. Just so you know


I don't think this is caused by MEHEM. I've always been able to display banners without issue.

Certain banners, like those for the weekend challenges, are stored server side and sometimes wont display due to a problem on Bioware's end.

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wavion wrote...

Really? Because I saved my crew and never saw her once... :/


Maybe there are more variables, I don't know. But, she has been in each of my ME3 playthroughs (3 so far).
One thing - I always bring Kelly up to my quarters in ME2, because I need somebody to feed my fish, and she doesn't count against the other love interests. Could that be a factor?


Yes.  You have to have dinner with Kelly in ME2 to get her to appear in the refugee camp in ME3.  And the meeting is somewhat different if you "romanced" (ie flirted with) her or were just friendly to her in ME2.

And yeah, if you don't tell her to change her identity in ME3 she is executed by Cerberus during teh coup attept.

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Certain banners, like those for the weekend challenges, are stored server side and sometimes wont display due to a problem on Bioware's end.


Maybe thats it then. I completed heartbreaker but cant display the banner... oh well see what happens when I unlock reaper mastery...

As for Kelly.. *confused* How do you be friendly by NOT flirting with here? Because all triggers seem to be flirts and I already got an LI (I know she doesn't count against the LI but its against my morality to flirt if I already have an LI)...

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cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

Certain banners, like those for the weekend challenges, are stored server side and sometimes wont display due to a problem on Bioware's end.


Maybe thats it then. I completed heartbreaker but cant display the banner... oh well see what happens when I unlock reaper mastery...

As for Kelly.. *confused* How do you be friendly by NOT flirting with here? Because all triggers seem to be flirts and I already got an LI (I know she doesn't count against the LI but its against my morality to flirt if I already have an LI)...


1. PM Bryan Johnson or one of the other Multiplayer devs if you are having problems.

2. You have to talk to Kelly until she offers to feed your fish. I guess it is up to the player whether the flirting is just good natured, friendly, conversation or something more serious.

@MrFob, is it possible to have MEHEM display Kelly's name on the memorial wall if she dies in ME3? The original game forgets to include her.