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MEHEM - the Mass Effect (3) Happy Ending Mod - No more star kid, no more deaths and a reunion


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Iakus

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GoldFlsh wrote...

Also, on the topic of LIs, I haven't downloaded MEHEM yet because I'm waiting for the final DLC to come in but my main shep didn't romance anybody, how does the memorial scene play out if your shep doesn't have a LI? Does it just default to Liara to hug? Cuz I think that'd be fair enough. Have to say, though, after I beat the game I went through all the symptoms of ending rage. I watched alot of videos and read a lot of theories "to catch up." Thank god for finding this mod, it's really a masterpiece. Getting rid of the catalyst kid was the best thing that coulda happened to this game. :happy: 


If you had no LI, then it's Shepard's "best friend" among the crew.  The one you have the highest affection with, which is some kind of hidden stat.  Basically the one you talked to most, took on missions, that sort of thing

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iakus wrote...

If you had no LI, then it's Shepard's "best friend" among the crew.  The one you have the highest affection with, which is some kind of hidden stat.  Basically the one you talked to most, took on missions, that sort of thing


Yep, that's v0.2. This will be changed in v0.3.

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MrFob wrote...

iakus wrote...

If you had no LI, then it's Shepard's "best friend" among the crew.  The one you have the highest affection with, which is some kind of hidden stat.  Basically the one you talked to most, took on missions, that sort of thing


Yep, that's v0.2. This will be changed in v0.3.


Really?  Huh, here I was jsut describing the memorial scene in general:D

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iakus wrote...
Really?  Huh, here I was jsut describing the memorial scene in general:D


And you are right as far as the original scene is concerned.
However, if you don't romance anyone, who is on board the Normandy ,you won't hug anyone anymore during that scene in MEHEM 0.3.

Modifié par MrFob, 27 février 2013 - 03:03 .


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Innnteresting....

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Edit: :ph34r:

Modifié par wwinters99, 27 février 2013 - 02:31 .


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Nice. Really good work. :)

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So what are some things that you hope to see in future versions of this mod MrFob? So far lately I have been hearing some kinda stargazer and whatnot... anything else kinda major planned?

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Hm, don't want to say too much until I can be sure that things will work out but I said before, I do plan to look into the low/medium EMS situation next.

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God I love you guys.

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Been awhile since I posted here...last march I believe heh. I merely wished to say Mr.Fob. That I was quite thrilled to find this add-on, it makes it playable and I think you did quite amazing with what you had to work with. (That being Bioware leaving you a pile of manure to turn into something edible.) So I offer a hearty congratulations and a deep heart felt thank you.

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Wow, more things to come in an already awsome mod??
With the Citadel dlc coming, gaming life couldn't get any sweeter XD I just hope that it's compatible with MEHEM

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Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?

Forgot to comment: that space hamster vid is just hilarious X) would be fun to have it as an easter egg XD

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@ d1ta
Yup I am actually kinda looking forward to the DLC myself
V0.3 of the mod is being delayed till shortly after March 5 to make sure the Citadel DLC doesnt hurt MEHEM's functionality. That being said, the liklihood of there even being minor problems is fairly small :)
And actually if you read the last 4 or so pages of the thread, there has actually been some slightly serious talk about implementing the hamster scene as an easter egg kinda... but in order to find it, certain game conditions have to be met throughout the series. The conditions havent been decided yet... but its been a common idea that triggers go along the lines of poor strategy

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d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?

Modifié par wwinters99, 27 février 2013 - 10:53 .


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wwinters99 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?

actually, its a great idea. An ending like this, would transform Shepard into javik 2.0 - only without the trolling.

Imo, the ems-score should be beefed up as well. It is very easy to get 3100 end. The score to get the golden ending, has to be high. If it is possible to add "fixes", that adjust the score up if you have dlc installed, would maintain the difficulty.

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"Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?"

This is brilliance.

(Perhaps a super low EMS score could be a traditional, wow. You failed really hard sequence. But even worse than what's show in game somehow.)

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cfs3corsair wrote...

And actually if you read the last 4 or so pages of the thread, there has actually been some slightly serious talk about implementing the hamster scene as an easter egg kinda... but in order to find it, certain game conditions have to be met throughout the series. The conditions havent been decided yet... but its been a common idea that triggers go along the lines of poor strategy


While it is hilarious and well done, if it is implemented some how, I think it should be done for a complete bastard Shepard.  With a super low EMS score.  Those players that take the time to get a high EMS score should know that the Reaper bastards are dead and will never come back!!! lol 

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wwinters99 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?


Damn that must've generate a real pain. Like being hit by a brick 4 times kind of pain. 
What I see in my mind is after seeing the crucible fires and it's side effects, Shepard returns to the Normandy battered and empty. The Commander calls out to EDI but there was no reply. Idk, this is just my fan fiction mind at work here, probably it made just as much sense as the SR2 evacuation scene, lol.


@cfs3corsair: yeah I red a few pages back, found the idea to be hillarious and couldnt help myself to voice in my suport XD. Here's a few of my ideas for the flag check:
1. Have space hamster in me2
2. Have all fish in me2
3. "Catch" hamster in me3 (dont know if there is a different flag between catching or buying new :/ ..)
4. Get all fish in me3
5. Buy the fish feeder vi

Primary idea behind it is so players can still play the game as they wanted, but can still unlock that scene if they wanted to X)

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Dr_Extrem wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?

actually, its a great idea. An ending like this, would transform Shepard into javik 2.0 - only without the trolling.

Imo, the ems-score should be beefed up as well. It is very easy to get 3100 end. The score to get the golden ending, has to be high. If it is possible to add "fixes", that adjust the score up if you have dlc installed, would maintain the difficulty.


Actually I am in slight disagreement about the EMS. I do agree the bar should be high, and that nearly all to all war assets should be collected in order to get the awesome ending. But actually I dont like seeing an EMS requirement that is so high that it is required that we play multiplayer or something. Dont get me wrong, I play multiplayer some. But speaking as a guy living in a rural area, it is often difficult for my peers in my country (Canada) to get internet that is even fast enough to have the multiplayer work properly. Those in cities have extrememly fast net, but services for rural areas are extremely poor. Lets just say my fastest internet is my smartphone

Modifié par cfs3corsair, 27 février 2013 - 03:33 .


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d1ta wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?


Damn that must've generate a real pain. Like being hit by a brick 4 times kind of pain. 
What I see in my mind is after seeing the crucible fires and it's side effects, Shepard returns to the Normandy battered and empty. The Commander calls out to EDI but there was no reply. Idk, this is just my fan fiction mind at work here, probably it made just as much sense as the SR2 evacuation scene, lol.


@cfs3corsair: yeah I red a few pages back, found the idea to be hillarious and couldnt help myself to voice in my suport XD. Here's a few of my ideas for the flag check:
1. Have space hamster in me2
2. Have all fish in me2
3. "Catch" hamster in me3 (dont know if there is a different flag between catching or buying new :/ ..)
4. Get all fish in me3
5. Buy the fish feeder vi

Primary idea behind it is so players can still play the game as they wanted, but can still unlock that scene if they wanted to X)










I guess in the end it depends how hard MrFob finds managing the triggers is. Hopefully this process wont be run over by glitches haha
And voicing my opinion on different EMS endings...
I absolutely agree that MEHEM should have different endings based on EMS. That being said, it would be even better if MEHEM didnt run off the EMS score very much, but instead on whether you accomplished excellent strategies. For example saving the Rachni in 1. Getting rid of the Collector Base. Uniting the Geth and Quarians. Ending the genophage. Just my opinion
That being said though, different endings wont make a difference for me.... I will ALWAYS play so that my Shep lives and gets the ending he deserves :devil:

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It actually would make perfect sense that in MEHEM, the EMS score would have a direct effect on whether Shepard lives or dies. If you have a low EMS score, there are fewer ships in the fleet, so the ship that helps Joker rescue Shepard wouldn't be available.

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cfs3corsair wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

d1ta wrote...

Btw just thinking aloud here, since the low/medium EMS score is within MrFob's radar, do you think that Shepard should die in medium and everybody dies in low?


Does anyone else think having everyone except Shepard die would be the worst ending?

actually, its a great idea. An ending like this, would transform Shepard into javik 2.0 - only without the trolling.

Imo, the ems-score should be beefed up as well. It is very easy to get 3100 end. The score to get the golden ending, has to be high. If it is possible to add "fixes", that adjust the score up if you have dlc installed, would maintain the difficulty.


Actually I am in slight disagreement about the EMS. I do agree the bar should be high, and that nearly all to all war assets should be collected in order to get the awesome ending. But actually I dont like seeing an EMS requirement that is so high that it is required that we play multiplayer or something. Dont get me wrong, I play multiplayer some. But speaking as a guy living in a rural area, it is often difficult for my peers in my country (Canada) to get internet that is even fast enough to have the multiplayer work properly. Those in cities have extrememly fast net, but services for rural areas are extremely poor. Lets just say my fastest internet is my smartphone


dont get me wrong .. mp is an absolute no-go in my books. 

but the bar is low if you have all the dlcs installed. actually, you can have every me2 character killed and have the geth or quarients whiped out, and you can still hit the 3100-mark. 

but during my first playthrough, i had stiff 3650 ems (without mp) and i only had "from ashes" installed. i overjumped the bar by 550 points ... thats apr. 15% excess.

rising the bar by 300 points for each dlc that is installed additionally, should have be a good starting point.


i am absolutely open to suggestions.


thoughts on the low ems destroy:
 
if mrfob can really make the stargazer scene depending on certain parameters, it would be easy to implement 2 different stagazer scenes for a low-ems scenario.

everybody is dead - exept shepard (shep survived the blast in the eye of the storm and got picked up by some survivors form the citadel)
shepard in a full suit (with closed helmet), stands before a memorial on the scorched earth - fade to black.

this can be made with a custom fem and maleshep.

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@cfs3corsair: Love your ideas man, just like the mechanics in trying to achieve peace between the geth and quarians. If this is implemented to get MEHEM's "golden ending" then I'll do the happy dance, but not sure what others might think.

And yes, I also play to 'win' .. My Shepard wants her man back >=D .. but there ARE people looking for a variety of flavours and some do like tragic endings x)

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cfs3corsair wrote...

I guess in the end it depends how hard MrFob finds managing the triggers is. Hopefully this process wont be run over by glitches haha
And voicing my opinion on different EMS endings...
I absolutely agree that MEHEM should have different endings based on EMS. That being said, it would be even better if MEHEM didnt run off the EMS score very much, but instead on whether you accomplished excellent strategies. For example saving the Rachni in 1. Getting rid of the Collector Base. Uniting the Geth and Quarians. Ending the genophage. Just my opinion
That being said though, different endings wont make a difference for me.... I will ALWAYS play so that my Shep lives and gets the ending he deserves :devil:


I don't like the idea of forcing a renegade or paragon choice for the best ending. It shouldn't matter what you chose as much as did you chose. Did you save your crew? Did you do all the personal quests in all three games? For example, you can save Tali from exile with both a renegade and a paragon option.