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[luzburg]

This is awesome. i look forward when it works with leviithan and when it more polished (not that it isnt great as it is now). THANK YOU!

[Xellith]

I expect a S&D order soon...

[Mims]

I doubt it. Bioware is actually surprisingly lenient on fan creations. They even hire fans to produce content for their stores.

The only reason they'd step in is if this was a mod that gave you an advantage in multiplayer, or OP was asking for cash.

[Mathias]

Anyone who has the mod gonna post some pics? So far we've only seen Default Shep with Ashley and Liara.

[Darling Azzy]

Aw.. I just installed LEviathan to play. Dammit.. oh well Looking VERY much forward to trying this mod, which is the best stuff since sliced bread imho. I am not a fan of the ending (actually I exit my game when Shep runs towards the beam) And I am sure that this mod could make my ending less anti-climactic. =) Keep up the good work, and I'm gonna look out for a update.

[Jadebaby]

I LOVE YOU OP!

I ****ING LOVE YOU!!!

Important: Does it work for femshep as well? Or do you need to create a seperate mod?

This just goes to show how passionate people are about Mass Effect. I ****ing love it! And that hug at the end? And being flagged to your Love Interest!? I ****ING LOVE YOU!!

[Jadebaby]

Mims wrote...

I doubt it. Bioware is actually surprisingly lenient on fan creations. They even hire fans to produce content for their stores.

The only reason they'd step in is if this was a mod that gave you an advantage in multiplayer, or OP was asking for cash.

yea, the only way it'd become illegal is if he (or they) profitted from the creation.

[Mathias]

Jade8aby88 wrote...


I LOVE YOU OP!

I ****ING LOVE YOU!!!

Important: Does it work for femshep as well? Or do you need to create a seperate mod?

This just goes to show how passionate people are about Mass Effect. I ****ing love it! And that hug at the end? And being flagged to your Love Interest!? I ****ING LOVE YOU!!

See that was my reaction to, but i tried to contain myself lol.

[Jadebaby]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Just watched the footage.

I must say that it may be technically well done and emotionally satisfying, but also generic and boring. No revelation of the Reapers' motives and origins, no decision at the end that affects the future on a large scale. I prefer the EC endings.

I don't have the technical skills for things like this, but my "cut" would replace the Catalyst with a non-intelligent interface so Shepard doesn't lose agency, but keep the exposition basically the same, only phrased differently so things make more sense. I'd keep the geth alive in Destroy but destroy the relays completely in Destroy and Synthesis, and make Synthesis affect only Shepard, with the galaxy gradually adopting the idea in the epilogue. Control would stay unaffected.

Well that's because you were already satisfied.. Predictable is predictable.

[Remix-General Aetius]

pretty sloppy that it doesn't work with Leviathan. I'd assume that more players than not own it and would wanna use this mod with it. Leviathan came out 2 months ago, and Omega is coming out at the end of this month, so........what does that mean for people who wanna use the mod? they miss out on two potentially great pieces of DLC.

sorry but I'm more of a "if you can't do it right, don't do it at all" guy.

[Mathias]

TheGarden2010 wrote...

pretty sloppy that it doesn't work with Leviathan. I'd assume that more players than not own it and would wanna use this mod with it. Leviathan came out 2 months ago, and Omega is coming out at the end of this month, so........what does that mean for people who wanna use the mod? they miss out on two potentially great pieces of DLC.

sorry but I'm more of a "if you can't do it right, don't do it at all" guy.

I think "rude" would be a better description for you.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 04 novembre 2012 - 05:15 .

[Gurluas]

I kind of agree though, not with the rudeness, but it sucks not being able to play it.

[Mathias]

Gurluas wrote...

I kind of agree though, not with the rudeness, but it sucks not being able to play it.

Fob said he aims to clean up any reported bugs and will look into getting it to work with Leviathan. He's just one guy give it time.

[3DandBeyond]

Eterna5 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

I'm gonna make a prediction right now and say that this is probably gonna be the most downloaded mod in the whole game.

Outside of Shep looking like he got run over by a truck while putting up the memorial plate this is pretty damn good

Why? It's just a cheap imitation that is in no way cannonical. I want an ending that is actually aupported by the creators of the franchise. 

Because this was actually a very good attempt to use what tools were available to partly "fix" some of what BW got wrong in the first place.  It can't be perfect because the creator of it had to use what BW included.  And most people wanted an ending that was actually supported by 100 plus hours and five years of waiting and 97% of story prior to the conduit and the choices.  They wanted devs that also supported their own stories and characters instead of becoming Kubrick wannabes and ripping off endings from other movies, tv shows, and stories.

It's a well done interpretation that seeks to make better the total trashing of the franchise that was taking place from the original endings to the EC to Leviathan-contradictions upon contradictions.  Who the heck said it was canon?  Gee I thought nothing was canon oh except until you come to the ending and you can't really end the game (and get an achievement) unless you make a stupid choice.  I like MEEM as well and the problem here is that only so much can be done.  BW should have made real endings that were only meant to solve the galaxy's problem with variations contained within all of that.

[Mims]

"Doing it right" takes time and effort. This is just apart of the process. As it stands, ME is not an easily moddable game. It wasn't made to just plug new content into it.

[Jadebaby]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

See that was my reaction to, but i tried to contain myself lol.

Mass Effect. Contain myself. In the same sentence?



Seriously, I've been waiting for something like this for SOO long, something that lets us SEE our Shepard survived and even has a LI nod at the very end. My god. I know it has some clipping and footage issues. But this closer to what I want than anything I've seen before.

So far I've been living on this...
http://social.biowar...ndex/12842914/1

Seriously, it's my desktop background and everything.. To have my actual custom femshep huge Liara at the end? Well, I think my ME experience would be complete...

The only problem is I don't have ME on the PC... Yet. But if the OP and his/her team can fine-tune the kinks. Well, what great timing for the trilogy box set to come out

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Edit: I agree 3D. As usual

Seriously, I'm actually cherpy about this!

I know, I know, it sucks it doesn't work with Leviathan and if Omega adds any exposition to the endings then that might affect the mod also. But who cares? Fob is doing an amazing job with this, and he didn't have to share it with us. He could of kept if for himself. It was very nice of him to share it because it looks like he's put a TON of effort into it!

Mr. Fob? You deserve a team! You should try and get other people with the know to help you out. Check out HTL or other places. Though I'm sure you have helping-hands. Get a partner or something, this could be HUGE!

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 04 novembre 2012 - 05:26 .

[sarahann62380]

I agree that I wish this was available for consoles. I don't play on PC and don't foresee myself getting ME3 on PC, at least not anytime soon. But thank you for doing this, even though my very own Shepard won't be able to experience it being an Xbox player. It really is a cool thing. I'm not a fan of the ending but i respect those that do. Giving somewhat of a happy ending really does at least give a bit of closure and that's fantastic.

[Morlanwen]

I just watched it on youtube ... It's .. it's ... I LOVE YOU ^^ I just began a new game (back in me1) but now, I know the ending will be perfect when i'll reach me3.
Let's hope some people will translate it in other language (Well, I don't mind, i play in english but ... ^^)

[Mathias]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

See that was my reaction to, but i tried to contain myself lol.

Mass Effect. Contain myself. In the same sentence?



Seriously, I've been waiting for something like this for SOO long, something that let's us SEE our Shepard survived and even has a LI nod at the very end. My god. I know it has some clipping and footage issues. But this closer to what I want than anything I've seen before.

So far I've been living on this...
http://social.biowar...ndex/12842914/1

Seriously, it's my desktop background and everything.. To have my actual custom femshep huge Liara at the end? Well, I think my ME experience would be complete...

The only problem is I don't have ME on the PC... Yet. But if the OP and his/her team can fine-tune the kinks. Well, what great timing for the trilogy box set to come out

Oh it was definitely a matter of time. The Phantom Menace, Highlander II:The Quickening, Kotor 2, etc. They've all had fan edits to fix them. For ME3, it took under a year so we go lucky. Goes to show how devoted and awesome some fans are. I'm getting the PC version specifically because of this mod. If it works for my Shepard, then i'll finally be able to play through the whole trilogy again. I haven't touched the first two games since ME3 released.

So far i've only seen pics/footage of Default Shep with Liara and Ashley. I haven't seen a femshep version or a unique looking shepard yet.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 04 novembre 2012 - 05:27 .

[Davik Kang]

Congrats OP on a job well done, it's good to see some fans making positive contributions after being disappointed with the original ending. I loved the ME3 ending so I wouldn't want this to take it's place, but a lot of fans would, and you've got the support you deserved for your efforts.

[Jadebaby]

@Mdoggy1214, yea I'll be getting the box set on PC just for it too. Though I need to wait and see if he can work it with Leviathan and Omega... Oh wait, no I don't! Because it will be on PC instead of xbox.. I'll need to start from the beginning of the trilogy again anyway! : D So I can just ignore the Leviathans completely haha! XD

But I think I might wait until, at least January or so.. I still have a small amount of faith BioWare themselves will give us something like this at the end of the dlc schedule. They'd be crazy not to and EA would be crazy to let the opportunity to earn some cash slip. Because we all know a lot of people want this.

[Mathias]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

@Mdoggy1214, yea I'll be getting the box set on PC just for it too. Though I need to wait and see if he can work it with Leviathan and Omega... Oh wait, no I don't! Because it will be on PC instead of xbox.. I'll need to start from the beginning of the trilogy again anyway! : D So I can just ignore the Leviathans completely haha! XD

But I think I might wait until, at least January or so.. I still have a small amount of faith BioWare themselves will give us something like this at the end of the dlc schedule. They'd be crazy not to and EA would be crazy to let the opportunity to earn some cash slip. Because we all know a lot of people want this.

Leviathan sorta contradicts this modded ending, since it basically gets rid of the Catalyst. I never bothered with the DLC anyway, but i might with Omega. If Fob gets the mod working with the DLC then awesome. But if he can't i'll just get Omega for my 360 version and as soon as i get to Cronos Station, i'll just switch over to my PC save. My Shepard usually looks the same and mostly romances Ash, so it shouldn't be an issue anyway.

[Robhuzz]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

@Mdoggy1214, yea I'll be getting the box set on PC just for it too. Though I need to wait and see if he can work it with Leviathan and Omega... Oh wait, no I don't! Because it will be on PC instead of xbox.. I'll need to start from the beginning of the trilogy again anyway! : D So I can just ignore the Leviathans completely haha! XD

But I think I might wait until, at least January or so.. I still have a small amount of faith BioWare themselves will give us something like this at the end of the dlc schedule. They'd be crazy not to and EA would be crazy to let the opportunity to earn some cash slip. Because we all know a lot of people want this.

This... this is why mod support is so great. This is why mod support makes the developers money in the long term and is not detrimental to dlc sales (as there are many devs and mostly publishers who seem to believe this). Giving proper mod support increases the game's life span. I hope bioware realizes this soon and goes back to releasing mod tools for future games. We would've had dozens of ending mods by now if they'd supported it.

Modifié par Robhuzz, 04 novembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[Lawrence0294]

Very impressive, well done.
I will still prefer the EC destroy ending, but your work is quite remarkable.
Respect.

[3DandBeyond]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Just watched the footage.

I must say that it may be technically well done and emotionally satisfying, but also generic and boring. No revelation of the Reapers' motives and origins, no decision at the end that affects the future on a large scale. I prefer the EC endings.

I don't have the technical skills for things like this, but my "cut" would replace the Catalyst with a non-intelligent interface so Shepard doesn't lose agency, but keep the exposition basically the same, only phrased differently so things make more sense. I'd keep the geth alive in Destroy but destroy the relays completely in Destroy and Synthesis, and make Synthesis affect only Shepard, with the galaxy gradually adopting the idea in the epilogue. Control would stay unaffected.

Well that's because you were already satisfied.. Predictable is predictable.

Really.  The need to understand the reapers is never a real issue within the games.  If it isn't essential for the characters, it become unessential to the story.  It is at best left as an epilog, but not the be all and end all of the story in the last ten minutes.  No one wanted to get to understand their motives.  And their motives are not at all that clear and are made rather idiotic. 

The reapers are killing because:

Synthetics will inevitably kill organics.  Apparently this means all organics.  It happens either on purpose or accidentally that synthetics are going to destroy all organics, though they have yet to do this and so it is not proven.  So far they have not even killed every organic being they have targeted to kill.  The Leviathans still live and they were a part of the initial model for which the Catalyst was created.  However, synthetics are apparently going to on purpose or accidently kill everything organic, so seaweed better run and hide. 
Leviathan-enthralled races created killer synthetics and would not stop doing that. 
The kid keeps trying to achieve synthesis and fails.
The kid keeps trying to stop killer synthetics and find a solution for peace and balance and fails.

The only obvious thing here is that the reapers are a part of the most idiotic equation that has ever been created.  Remove any function within that equation and it falls apart.  Also, the logic the catalyst uses is the most illogical crap ever.  If something is inevitable but can be altered, it is not inevitable.  If it is not inevitable then the whole problem falls apart.  Chaos alters variables so what appears to be inevitable never is.  Order reasserts inevitability, because it's much more difficult to form alternate solution within a construct of ultimate order.  And, he says that his solution (the reapers) are no longer working.  He would not and could not keep utilizing a non-solution.  The reapers are no longer a solution, so whether Shepard makes a choice or not, he would not use the reapers any longer.  A logic-based entity would not promote a non-working solution.

Yeah, but no, I didn't need to know all about these motives.  It makes them look like morons.  It insults true logic and these motives need real back story to matter.  Leviathan was an attempt to set up the back story, but it fails.  In fact, the added dialogue (and it's not much) makes the catalyst even more contradictory.  He's not killing anyone, but he meant to destroy the Leviathans.  He is supposedly preserving people in the same way as he preserved his creators but he knew he was destroying them-he says they needed to be destroyed. 

Control as is to me is a non-choice.  It's cruelty upon cruelty.  It's inserting Shepard into flawed tech where the kid now resides and expecting Shepard to fix that.  It's like putting a new CPU into a burnt out motherboard.  It's cruel also in that you have skyscraper sized creatures that have scared the hell out of people, destroyed colonies and all but destroyed planets and they have people goo in them, as well as reaper variants running around in the lives of those they've tried to destroy.  Synthesis suffers from this as well as a host of a lot of other issues.  I'm sorry, but it's irrational to think that everyone would be super happy to have tech of some dubious nature (or even a known nature) inserted in them and become fully integrated with them.  Why force this on Shepard and then wait for it to happen to everyone?  What a joke.  I personally wouldn't want it and I'm not odd in that-most polls here have said they would not want to be synthesized.  And Destroying the reapers was always the goal.  People can modify this and say that it was about stopping them, but sorry that's not so-the only thing that ensures they will not be imposed upon people and can't become killing machines again is to destroy them.

And destroying the relays is a joke as well and would doom most systems.  Organic life would die.  The codex Desperate Measures says that.  And destroying the relays would destroy Earth, since the Citadel is right there.

I so appreciate this video because the devs did not make a valid attempt (except in the refuse speech) to make a sensible ending(s).  This is an attempt to appeal to one particular type of ending that BW knew a lot of fans wanted as a possibility.  And the one thing that most seem to agree on even if they don't agree Shepard should live or die or become a toaster, is the kid and the choices were a mistake.