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[Yoshimurha]

iakus wrote...

THe special slide comes at the very end, just before the credits as you see at around the 13:00 mark here:

Cool, thanks! 

[ruggly]

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

Modifié par ruggly, 02 avril 2013 - 08:17 .

[Bierwichtel]

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

hot damn... come on you can do it again... just bunker up over a weekend and relearn...

go live (on deviantart...)

I would totally fave you...

this looks awesome...

what you did, is something I actually consider art... (what I do, is not...)

[ruggly]

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

hot damn... come on you can do it again... just bunker up over a weekend and relearn...

go live (on deviantart...)

I would totally fave you...

this looks awesome...

what you did, is something I actually consider art... (what I do, is not...)

Well, I do happen to have one. Here's my dA page.  Hasn't been updated in a long time.

[Bierwichtel]

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

hot damn... come on you can do it again... just bunker up over a weekend and relearn...

go live (on deviantart...)

I would totally fave you...

this looks awesome...

what you did, is something I actually consider art... (what I do, is not...)

Well, I do happen to have one. Here's my dA page.  Hasn't been updated in a long time.

so, watched you...

[ruggly]

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

hot damn... come on you can do it again... just bunker up over a weekend and relearn...

go live (on deviantart...)

I would totally fave you...

this looks awesome...

what you did, is something I actually consider art... (what I do, is not...)

Well, I do happen to have one. Here's my dA page.  Hasn't been updated in a long time.

so, watched you...

So much pressure to create something nice now

[Bierwichtel]

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...

ruggly wrote...

Bierwichtel wrote...
as I said to one of my buddies on deviantart, "I do not draw, at all..."

even for photo and video manip, something bigger would be necessary...

so I will take your input under advice and get a bigger one... thank you

Yeah, the only thing I used to be good at was making forum signatures in GIMP, i.e.



Ask me to do that now, and you get something that looks like a rendintion of what a physical fart would be.  Plus GIMP updated and moved everything around, so I don't know how to import new brushes.

hot damn... come on you can do it again... just bunker up over a weekend and relearn...

go live (on deviantart...)

I would totally fave you...

this looks awesome...

what you did, is something I actually consider art... (what I do, is not...)

Well, I do happen to have one. Here's my dA page.  Hasn't been updated in a long time.

so, watched you...

So much pressure to create something nice now

not to fret... no pressure... muse is fickle... do it at your own leisure...

how about another MEHEM sig... for starters...


honestly, I'm not going to make you do anything... I am fighting for Chaos and  Free Will after all...

[Getorex]

Thanks to MEHEM, I am currently in the late stages of my 3rd ME3 play-through. I never finished ME3 originally - I quit at the run towards the beam because I became aware, at that point, of the star child and the lose-lose-lose ending. So I quit. MEHEM brought me back and now...anyway, in this run (apropos of nothing) I actually managed to shoot Brooks' head clean off with a quick succession of sniper shots early in the boss fight but after that when the clone revived her SHE CAME BACK HEADLESS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT! The game became a macabre horror story with a headless enemy.

[Bierwichtel]

Getorex wrote...

Thanks to MEHEM, I am currently in the late stages of my 3rd ME3 play-through. I never finished ME3 originally - I quit at the run towards the beam because I became aware, at that point, of the star child and the lose-lose-lose ending. So I quit. MEHEM brought me back and now...anyway, in this run (apropos of nothing) I actually managed to shoot Brooks' head clean off with a quick succession of sniper shots early in the boss fight but after that when the clone revived her SHE CAME BACK HEADLESS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT! The game became a macabre horror story with a headless enemy.

^This... so much win...

[Mr.House]

Getorex wrote...

Thanks to MEHEM, I am currently in the late stages of my 3rd ME3 play-through. I never finished ME3 originally - I quit at the run towards the beam because I became aware, at that point, of the star child and the lose-lose-lose ending. So I quit. MEHEM brought me back and now...anyway, in this run (apropos of nothing) I actually managed to shoot Brooks' head clean off with a quick succession of sniper shots early in the boss fight but after that when the clone revived her SHE CAME BACK HEADLESS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT! The game became a macabre horror story with a headless enemy.

Would be funnier if she was deadless during the cutscene after the fight.

[Getorex]

Mr.House wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Thanks to MEHEM, I am currently in the late stages of my 3rd ME3 play-through. I never finished ME3 originally - I quit at the run towards the beam because I became aware, at that point, of the star child and the lose-lose-lose ending. So I quit. MEHEM brought me back and now...anyway, in this run (apropos of nothing) I actually managed to shoot Brooks' head clean off with a quick succession of sniper shots early in the boss fight but after that when the clone revived her SHE CAME BACK HEADLESS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT! The game became a macabre horror story with a headless enemy.

Would be funnier if she was deadless during the cutscene after the fight.

THAT would have been cool.  Sadly I didn't make it that far anyway.  I got stuck on cover and got killed so...probably never repeat the decapitation stunt ever ever again.

[creapsmantic]

well the low EMS crucible approach be made for all EMS cause that scene it pretty good i don't see why they could not have this added to all EMS .... its less boring of a scene then the Original one lol

also will there be any change of the coloring of the energy that kills the reapers (jazzberry jam or possible Macaroni and cheese Colors ) joking aside haha

[Saito404]

Ok, no black screens now. But memorial scene is broken. Ashley's model mixed with Traynor's and no hug.
EDIT Just reloaded the save and all worked fine. This game is full of space magic...

Modifié par Saito404, 03 avril 2013 - 06:31 .

[Ironhandjustice]

Getorex wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Getorex wrote...

Thanks to MEHEM, I am currently in the late stages of my 3rd ME3 play-through. I never finished ME3 originally - I quit at the run towards the beam because I became aware, at that point, of the star child and the lose-lose-lose ending. So I quit. MEHEM brought me back and now...anyway, in this run (apropos of nothing) I actually managed to shoot Brooks' head clean off with a quick succession of sniper shots early in the boss fight but after that when the clone revived her SHE CAME BACK HEADLESS FOR THE REST OF THE FIGHT! The game became a macabre horror story with a headless enemy.

Would be funnier if she was deadless during the cutscene after the fight.

THAT would have been cool.  Sadly I didn't make it that far anyway.  I got stuck on cover and got killed so...probably never repeat the decapitation stunt ever ever again.

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL OF BROOKS.

You cannot kill me Sheppard.

@MrFob The trailer was awesome. Did you see my email? :innocent:

[Jadebaby]

Congratulations Mr. Fob, this thread and my PM's are the only reason I even sign into the BSN anymore. I'm waiting until you're practically done with mehem and I will download the final version and do another 1-3 trilogy run on PC for it, and then probably another two or three

Also, the OP needs to be updated to get rid of the to do list for v0.3 and instead add a new to do list for v0.4! : )

[Valentyn299]

I feel like the ending has much less impact if shepard survives. Without
his sacrifice it's just another plain, vanilla version of "the hero
saves the day and lives and everyone is happy and then they all have
cake, the end" kind of story; of which we've seen far too much. I
honestly do not see why people dislike the original, even un "extended"
version. Was it so hard to grasp that they had to release a DLC that
held your hand for it? The synthetic ending especially awestruck me. The subtle likening of EDI and Joker to Adam and Eve of a new world was fantastic. But hey, to each their own.

[Ironhandjustice]

Valentyn299 wrote...

I feel like the ending has much less impact if shepard survives. Without
his sacrifice it's just another plain, vanilla version of "the hero
saves the day and lives and everyone is happy and then they all have
cake, the end" kind of story; of which we've seen far too much. I
honestly do not see why people dislike the original, even un "extended"
version. Was it so hard to grasp that they had to release a DLC that
held your hand for it? The synthetic ending especially awestruck me. The subtle likening of EDI and Joker to Adam and Eve of a new world was fantastic. But hey, to each their own.

I disliked because it was rushed, nonsensical, and "very, very similar" to Deus ex, Deus Ex HR, and asimov Edge of Fundation novel. Use a Deus Ex (in that case, literally) is a poor writing exit.



By the way, MEHEM is not finished yet, and if you read the thread, you will found that the EMS score may have influence in future versions. I mean, after 5 years, giving the dedicated gamers the chance of survival if they do a perfect play is the minimum expected.

That is more, is an intelligent way to sell games: you can only win if you have played since ME1.

Most people play to win, and without that chance, why they should play? ME was about the impossible.

Anyway, if you want to talk about the other endings far than this, there are several threads where we can do it.

Modifié par Ironhandjustice, 03 avril 2013 - 10:43 .

[M Hedonist]

Jadebaby wrote...

Congratulations Mr. Fob, this thread and my PM's are the only reason I even sign into the BSN anymore. I'm waiting until you're practically done with mehem and I will download the final version and do another 1-3 trilogy run on PC for it, and then probably another two or three

Also, the OP needs to be updated to get rid of the to do list for v0.3 and instead add a new to do list for v0.4! : )

Yes, I am also considering to make yet another 'final' trilogy playthrough once MEHEM is finished (or when it's just polished enough).
For that purpose, if you're considering to buy any ME3 DLC other than Citadel, I'd definitely go with Omega over Leviathan. I probably won't play Leviathan for that playthrough even though I've already bought it.

[ruggly]

Valentyn299 wrote...

I feel like the ending has much less impact if shepard survives. Without
his sacrifice it's just another plain, vanilla version of "the hero
saves the day and lives and everyone is happy and then they all have
cake, the end" kind of story; of which we've seen far too much. I
honestly do not see why people dislike the original, even un "extended"
version. Was it so hard to grasp that they had to release a DLC that
held your hand for it? The synthetic ending especially awestruck me. The subtle likening of EDI and Joker to Adam and Eve of a new world was fantastic. But hey, to each their own.

Don't like it? Don't use it. That simple.

[Xamufam]

Valentyn299 wrote...

I feel like the ending has much less impact if shepard survives. Without
his sacrifice it's just another plain, vanilla version of "the hero
saves the day and lives and everyone is happy and then they all have
cake, the end" kind of story; of which we've seen far too much. I
honestly do not see why people dislike the original, even un "extended"
version. Was it so hard to grasp that they had to release a DLC that
held your hand for it? The synthetic ending especially awestruck me. The subtle likening of EDI and Joker to Adam and Eve of a new world was fantastic. But hey, to each their own.

If we do bioware's job for them then it's bad writing, it's not our job to speculate & to much did not make sense for us to speculate

We dislike it because it made no sense,it was contrived, it was broken, it had no narrative coheranse it didn't follow the laws of that world & broke suspension of disbelief & secondary disbelief.

There are just too many retcons, contrivances & plotholes for us to accept it

& synth vs organic was already deconstructed in me 2 & completely 3 ranooch
Synthesis, The catalyst & even the crucible did not make any sense they can't just throw it in in the last moment & expect us to accept it
Don’t introduce any new characters or subplots. Any appearances within the last 50 pages should have been foreshadowed earlier, even if mysteriously.

Don’t describe, muse, explain or philosophize. Keep description to a minimum, but maximize action and conflict. You have placed all your charges. Now, light the fuse and run.

Do Tie up loose ends of significance. Every question
you planted in a reader’s mind should be addressed, even if the answer
is to say that a character will address that issue later, after the book
ends.

Don’t change voice, tone or attitude. An ending will
feel tacked on if the voice of the narrator suddenly sounds alien to the
voice that’s been consistent for the previous 80,000 words.

Don’t resort to gimmicks. No quirky twists or trick
endings. You’re at the end of your story, and if your reader has stuck
with you the whole time, it’s because you’ve engaged her, because she
has participated. The final impression you want to create is a positive
one. Don’t leave your reader feeling tricked or cheated.

DO Resolve the central conflict. You don’t have to
provide a happily-ever-after ending, but do try to uplift. Readers want
to be uplifted, and editors try to give readers what they want.

Do Afford redemption to your heroic character. No
matter how many mistakes she has made along the way, allow the
reader—and the character—to realize that, in the end, she has done the
right thing.

www.writersdigest.com/whats-new/the-dos-and-donts-of-novel-endings

biowares ending is not organic to the story it's too artificial.

Modifié par Troxa, 03 avril 2013 - 02:26 .

[MrFob]

So, I finally finished my series playthrough. It took pretty much exactly one month to do it (playing A LOT more than I usually do) and it was awesome.

Having seen MEHEM in context for the first time, I have to say, I still prefer MEEM by far. Priority Earth is what it is and it sets a very bleak picture already. I can absolutely understand where e.g. Valentyn299 is coming from when he says "shepard surviving lowers the impact". I don't think it lowers the impact of the ending but it does lower the impact of the goodbye scenes with the characters in London IMO.
That said, I still think the way the original endings went with the star kjid is just wrong for the story. This experience has really consolidated my opinion that ME3 needed a variety of endings with different tones and moods for different players. But anyway, what's done is done.

Anyway, on to answering some questions:
@Yoshimurha: This is a bug in v0.3, I am afraid. Sometimes (and it seems random for now), the game sends Miranda/Jack/non romancers into the hugging memorial. I have to figure this one out for v0.4. It's the difficult bug fixing, I mentioned in one of my last posts. If you reload your last save, you might get to the right memorial scene with the slide (as I said, it's non consistent and can change from one load to the next at the moment). Sorry.

@creapsmantic: No plans for that, sorry. I am currently using some scenes from the low EMS crucible approach in MEHEM itself. I want to try and avoid the repetition and since we do have a perfectly good crucible docking cutscene for high EMS that does not cause repetitions, I don't want to replace it. I do agree that the low EMS crucible cutscenes looks way cooler though. First time I say it I was quite amazed.

@Saito404: Did I read this right, you got to the non-hug scene with an Ashley romance? Ah crap, so the bug goes in both directions. I was hoping it would only be an issue for Miri/Jack/non romancers. Please let me know who your romance was for that playthrough. Cheers! Also, to everyone, if anyone encountered the no-hug memorial with an LI that is on the Normandy at the time, please let me know.

@Jadebaby: Ah, thanks. Good catch on the OP. It's just a typo though, this is actually the to-do list for v0.4. Will fix it now.

[ruggly]

I hate how the goodbye scenes make everyone so resigned to Shepard dying. **** that bull****, I'm coming back.

[cfs3corsair]

Can understand where people are coming from when they say that MEEM can be better than MEHEM. I personally prefer MEHEM though. My shep told Liara he was always coming back... and in spite of Reapers, goodbyes, etc., He's back! Perhaps Im just sentimental, but man its a good ending.
I don't really think Shep living cheapens the goodbyes; I have had to say goodbye to friends before in real life... some died, some lived. And either way the goodbyes were quite powerful.
So put into that context, MEHEM works just fine for me

Modifié par cfs3corsair, 03 avril 2013 - 02:59 .

[Getorex]

ruggly wrote...

Valentyn299 wrote...

I feel like the ending has much less impact if shepard survives. Without
his sacrifice it's just another plain, vanilla version of "the hero
saves the day and lives and everyone is happy and then they all have
cake, the end" kind of story; of which we've seen far too much. I
honestly do not see why people dislike the original, even un "extended"
version. Was it so hard to grasp that they had to release a DLC that
held your hand for it? The synthetic ending especially awestruck me. The subtle likening of EDI and Joker to Adam and Eve of a new world was fantastic. But hey, to each their own.

Don't like it? Don't use it. That simple.

Must have HATED Mass Effect 1 and 2 since Shepard survives two whole times when he shouldn't have.  That really sucks hard...oh yeah, it doesn't.

[MrFob]

cfs3corsair wrote...

Can understand where people are coming from when they say that MEEM can be better than MEHEM. I personally prefer MEHEM though. My shep told Liara he was always coming back... and in spite of Reapers, goodbyes, etc., He's back! Perhaps Im just sentimental, but man its a good ending.
I don't really think Shep living cheapens the goodbyes; I have had to say goodbye to friends before in real life... some died, some lived. And either way the goodbyes were quite powerful.
So put into that context, MEHEM works just fine for me

Yea, maybe. Could be that it was just the contrast between the goodbyes and the Citadel scenes (played though it just a day before) that gave me that impression. Not sure.
Anyway, I am back to modding now. I'll have to spend some more time on my real life job for a while but hopefully things can still move forward at a moderate pace.