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Bierwichtel

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MrFob wrote...

Yep, that's what it is. The videos are in 1270x820. Depending on how much moving or zooming you want to do, you might want a higher resolution for the image in use. That's all.
(In principle, you could use any video material really, just has to be the same length as the original slide. If you can pack an action movie into 4.5 seconds, that'd be fine as well from a technical perspective. :))

But yea, as creapsmantic says, if you point me in the right direction, I am happy to do the rest.


I was going to ask the artist for permission, as I happen to know some people on deviant who do ME stuff... just need to find out if they can do Kasumi, too.

Maybe have them do something specially for the mod...

@creapsmantic: I never intended to insinuate that I wanted to do it, got my hands full doing the manips of the original cutscenes... :devil:

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While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?

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wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?

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cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?

Was thinking about that too the other day - at some point, I want to create a slide for my ME3 project (whenever I get around to it and past more important 3D work) showing Admiral Hackett, Primarch Victus, maybe an STG Salarian, along with a bunch of other multi-alien soldiers celebrating the end of the Reapers, which would take the place of the slide of the 4 human soldiers overlooking London as Hackett narrates on "This victory belongs to each of us, etc" (yeah BioWare, by 'everyone' you just mean 'humanity' as general... <_<)

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AVPen wrote...

cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?

Was thinking about that too the other day - at some point, I want to create a slide for my ME3 project (whenever I get around to it and past more important 3D work) showing Admiral Hackett, Primarch Victus, maybe an STG Salarian, along with a bunch of other multi-alien soldiers celebrating the end of the Reapers, which would take the place of the slide of the 4 human soldiers overlooking London as Hackett narrates on "This victory belongs to each of us, etc" (yeah BioWare, by 'everyone' you just mean 'humanity' as general... <_<)


are you on deviant, too?

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cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?


No preference. In fact, I'd like to be pleasantly surprised. See what the talented artists can come up with.

The prime spot to showcase said slides would be when Hacket says "This wasn't a victory by a single fleet, a single army, or even a single species". Currently, we only see the Krogan at that point.

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cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?


I was thinking maybe a slide that shows dignitaries of numerous species at the unveiling of some sort of "Unity" monument - in London, perhaps?

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The PE goodbyes are fairly hollow compared to the respective scenes in the Citadel DLC anyway. I know which resonated more emotionally with me, and it wasn't the PE scenes.

Shepard living doesn't cheapen anything for me, especially considering that she lives in my High EMS destroy ending anyway. The only difference that the MEHEM makes is that I get to see Shepard's survival rather than having to headcanon it. Oh, and of course no Starbrat, which is always full of win.


Exactly.  Considering that what MEHEM adds and subtracts creates a far better feeling and experience for what by many was considered THE ending (absent the debate over which choice and all that was better), the win is in game and outside of the game.  If only BW would make these changes (far more easily done by them) and provide them as DLC for consoles as well as PC.  Since Citadel really is not related to the story at all, why couldn't they just say this ending is not canon either but is fan service.

My nephew recently decided to buy the trilogy because he got it really cheap and all of his friends hate the ending-his question for me was why Bioware was so resistant to creating alternate endings.  I had no answer since if it was my company I know what I would have done. 

Again, thanks to all those who have worked and still work so hard on this mod.  You do what BW should do.

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@McBlade223 said it well.."   And as far as happy endings, I'll just reiterate what one of my friends told me. "Real life is full of crap happening to us everyday, no need to put that into a video game when for an hour or 2 we can feel like a hero."
That is oh so true..more than you know for some..it is why many of us play..
To feel that…making a difference feeling..without having to die for it..not when we were promised what we did , would matter..in the end of this series.. Hope is what we look for in video games, that what we do matters for a moment somewhere, and ME3 took that away from many of us, and MEHEM gave it back..IMHO..

All the debates of the philosophical whyfores and whatnots, of all the fine details of the plots etc..are interesting, grand even mates, but in the end, its the pure simplicity of MEHEM that matters..

I also feel the Citadel party is best where it is, isn't that what we do if we were facing possible death spend it with those you care about..live it up..all together as one..

MEHEM is perfect IMO, and its creators, amasing..to make so many people happy and feeling completion..and hope.. With just a few tweaks perchance. All I would what to see, left  is Miranda and Jack alive  somewhere as well..They meant allot to us no matter if you were male or female they were friends..
All I can say , words fail me, all I can express this mod, gave me that ending I needed.. for a moment in  life that is often far to ugly, where we oft feel nothing we do matters, we get to be a hero, and that's what video games like this, do, especially this one that makes you invest so much emotion  carried over, to have that hope taken away in the end..this ending yous gave us in this mod, does it..
I will always be grateful for a time when I needed it most this mod came out.. :happy:
TA mates, good on...
Keep on keeping on!!!!

Modifié par aeryn333, 04 avril 2013 - 04:04 .


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MageTarot wrote...

cfs3corsair wrote...

wwinters99 wrote...

While we're on the topic of new slides. I always found it strange that, with the sole exception of the Geth and Quarians, none of Bioware's slides show individuals of two different species at the same time.

What happened to the galactic unity? I was hoping to see Turians help the Krogans rebuild Tuchanka. Maybe Ex-Cerberus Jacob with a mixed species class.

Anyone else think something was missing?


Such slides would be cool... any particular slides appeal to you?


I was thinking maybe a slide that shows dignitaries of numerous species at the unveiling of some sort of "Unity" monument - in London, perhaps?


That's a cool idea, was thinking of a slide showing multiple races helping rebuild earth in the aftermath but i like the monument idea better. Also maybe a slide showing the hanar and drell rebuilding their homeworld also?

I agree with wwinters99 idea about inputing them where the krogan slides are. It never bothered me, but i always noticed and wondered how come the krogan get 4 slides. 2 showing wrex and grunt, and the other 2 with the baby and rebuilding the temple in the background. Imo, any 2 out of those 4 can be removed without losing context to make space for custom slides.

 

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@Saito404: Glad to hear it but that means that you did get to the wrong memorial scene with an Ashley romance once, right? Only reloading again fixed that? Sorry to bother you with this but it's important for me to know for bug fixing.

First, I didn't got the memorial scene and slides at all. Then I updated TOC.bin and got slides and memorial scene without Ashley hug. (Ashley and Traynor were... er... "mixed"). Reloaded the autosave (Before "not those beams again") and got memorial scene with Ashley hug. v0.2 always worked fine.

I got the similar problem with original EC. Once, I didn't get memorial scene and slides.

Modifié par Saito404, 04 avril 2013 - 07:45 .


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Hmmm in addition to Kasumi I also like the "races get together to progress" idea... Like the memorial idea for one. One personal idea for an interspecies project slide (just throwing this out there) would show them all repairing the sol relay (would have to happen early in the slideshow though; before it shows everyone getting home).

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@Saito04: That does siound like that same bug as before, just reversed, I'll have to take this into account when trying to fix things. Thanks for the info.

cfs3corsair wrote...

Hmmm in addition to Kasumi I also like the "races get together to progress" idea... Like the memorial idea for one. One personal idea for an interspecies project slide (just throwing this out there) would show them all repairing the sol relay (would have to happen early in the slideshow though; before it shows everyone getting home).

A good candidate for anything like this might be Jacob's slide. It's right after the London one and I guess most people wouldn't be too broken up if that one were not to show and still, most people probably didn't get him killed either.

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How does one get Low ems ?

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creapsmantic wrote...

How does one get Low ems ?


Don't play the DLCs, don't play multiplayer, don't import a Shepard, don't do any sidequests, then maybe your EMS will be low enough.

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The goodbye scene in London felt like this for me:
"Either one of us could have died on any on the previous missions, but OMG now we actually have a chance to win against the reapers.
I have to say goodbye now, i know we could have been killed on any previous misson, but the council might not allow the hero of the universe to meet his friends afterwards and anyone might still get killed.
<whispering> Honestly, it is because MEs team wanted to add an awesome afterwards-scene like in DA:O, but some people might not see it because of their choices, so we have to do this now."

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wwinters99 wrote...

creapsmantic wrote...

How does one get Low ems ?


Don't play the DLCs, don't play multiplayer, don't import a Shepard, don't do any sidequests, then maybe your EMS will be low enough.


or edit your savegame...:devil:

Modifié par Bierwichtel, 04 avril 2013 - 12:03 .


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@Saito04: That does siound like that same bug as before, just reversed, I'll have to take this into account when trying to fix things. Thanks for the info.

cfs3corsair wrote...

Hmmm in addition to Kasumi I also like the "races get together to progress" idea... Like the memorial idea for one. One personal idea for an interspecies project slide (just throwing this out there) would show them all repairing the sol relay (would have to happen early in the slideshow though; before it shows everyone getting home).

A good candidate for anything like this might be Jacob's slide. It's right after the London one and I guess most people wouldn't be too broken up if that one were not to show and still, most people probably didn't get him killed either.


Perhaps, though I see a potential problem because last we saw Jacob was on the Citadel (assuming player did not do goodbyes...though players not doing that is kinda odd); some people might figure the absence of his slide means they got him killed somehow during the Reaper attack... in addition there are some players who like Jacob as a character. Hmmm... how long is the Jacob slide, is there room for 2...? Just throwing stuff at wall, see what sticks :devil:

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cfs3corsair wrote...

MrFob wrote...

@Saito04: That does siound like that same bug as before, just reversed, I'll have to take this into account when trying to fix things. Thanks for the info.

cfs3corsair wrote...

Hmmm in addition to Kasumi I also like the "races get together to progress" idea... Like the memorial idea for one. One personal idea for an interspecies project slide (just throwing this out there) would show them all repairing the sol relay (would have to happen early in the slideshow though; before it shows everyone getting home).

A good candidate for anything like this might be Jacob's slide. It's right after the London one and I guess most people wouldn't be too broken up if that one were not to show and still, most people probably didn't get him killed either.


Perhaps, though I see a potential problem because last we saw Jacob was on the Citadel (assuming player did not do goodbyes...though players not doing that is kinda odd); some people might figure the absence of his slide means they got him killed somehow during the Reaper attack... in addition there are some players who like Jacob as a character. Hmmm... how long is the Jacob slide, is there room for 2...? Just throwing stuff at wall, see what sticks :devil:


Perhaps Jacob could be in this "victory fro all races" slide?  Perhaps as the "designated human for it"?  Might help rehabilitate his characterImage IPB

Although what could be done for playthroughs where he's dead?

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@iakus:
Hey thats a good idea. As for playthroughs where he died... either his "death" flag triggers an entirely differently designed slide, or it triggers seemingly the same slide, just with his absence?
of course, if one was to show a multiple species repairing sol relay slide early with Jacob... how does one do that? Another scene like the one with Bailey and Aria (Sol Relay being repaired outside window; jacob by window talking to whats her name wife/scientist? Show a rachni worker in background ;))?

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cfs3corsair wrote...

@iakus:
Hey thats a good idea. As for playthroughs where he died... either his "death" flag triggers an entirely differently designed slide, or it triggers seemingly the same slide, just with his absence?
of course, if one was to show a multiple species repairing sol relay slide early with Jacob... how does one do that? Another scene like the one with Bailey and Aria (Sol Relay being repaired outside window; jacob by window talking to whats her name wife/scientist? Show a rachni worker in background ;))?


I was thinking somthing along the lines of a speech being made, with lots of different aliens in the audience.  Maybe Hackett is giving the speech?  Or the Council?

The unveiling of a monument or memorial to a large crowd of humans and aliens.

An award ceremony with human, turian, and asari soldiers receiving medals (I think those are the only races guaranteed to participate in taking back Earth in all playthroughs

Or yeah, a bunch of scientists of various species examing a piece of tech, with a busted relay in the background.  maybe with Brynn among them and Jacob in the background?

Just a few ideas to toss out.

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I would take the M-98 Widow, but it has to be the Mass Effect 2!!!!! M-98 Widow. Ker-blam!!!

I loved that gun, it felt like you were firing a freight train full of hurt, pain, and agony. I love it, it loved me, it was an awesome gun, I wanted it to have my children....

WHY!!!! BIOWARE WHY!!!!! WHY DID YOU MESS UP MY FAVORITE SERIES!!!!!!!

BWaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! *sobs* :(

-AE

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Just because a specie's central government doesn't participate in the final battle, doesn't mean every individual of that species opted out. For example, Aria's mercenaries come from every race.

The Geth, Quarians, and Rachni, are the only ones that need conditionals to appear. Every other race could show up in a crowd scene without breaking canon.

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Exeider wrote...

I would take the M-98 Widow, but it has to be the Mass Effect 2!!!!! M-98 Widow. Ker-blam!!!

I loved that gun, it felt like you were firing a freight train full of hurt, pain, and agony. I love it, it loved me, it was an awesome gun, I wanted it to have my children....

WHY!!!! BIOWARE WHY!!!!! WHY DID YOU MESS UP MY FAVORITE SERIES!!!!!!!

BWaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! *sobs* :(

-AE

:mellow: What the?

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Mr.House wrote...

Exeider wrote...

I would take the M-98 Widow, but it has to be the Mass Effect 2!!!!! M-98 Widow. Ker-blam!!!

I loved that gun, it felt like you were firing a freight train full of hurt, pain, and agony. I love it, it loved me, it was an awesome gun, I wanted it to have my children....

WHY!!!! BIOWARE WHY!!!!! WHY DID YOU MESS UP MY FAVORITE SERIES!!!!!!!

BWaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!! *sobs* :(

-AE

:mellow: What the?

he wants  the   sound   froom  the Anti Tank sniper rifle   A.K.A   M-98 Widows  from  mass effect 2  in  3   the sound  were better  in  mass effect 2 as well