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MEHEM - the Mass Effect (3) Happy Ending Mod - No more star kid, no more deaths and a reunion


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There, you got your "happy" ending. NOW KINDLY SHUT THE HELL UP AND MOVE THE HELL ON. Thanks, you're actually making me not like the series because I have to associate with you. The Bioware endings weren't too good at first glance, sure, but if you actually took the time to think about it then you would realize they're actually pretty good. In short, if you screamed and ranted and raved for the last eight months, YOU ARE BANNED FROM THE MASS EFFECT FANDOM FOR FAILURE TO THINK.

Oh and your audio is bad and the whole thing is non-canon. I HAVE SPOKEN.

Modifié par Jon The Wizard, 05 novembre 2012 - 01:48 .


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Sorry what? I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome this fan made mod is.

Oh, could someone make banners please? This is officially my canon ending now.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 05 novembre 2012 - 02:20 .


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Can anyone confirm if the new credits music plays if you select credits at the main menu? When i download the mod i have to play through the entire game first, to know if i even installed it correctly. I'd rather know right away if it's possible.

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I asked before but I don't think I got a reply.

Does this modded ending take variables such as EMS and who lives/dies into account?

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Well i'm not as computer smart as some people are, and there are like 17 steps to installing this mod. I'd be AMAZED if i got everything right in one go.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

I asked before but I don't think I got a reply.

Does this modded ending take variables such as EMS and who lives/dies into account?


Yes it does. Epilogue Scenes will change and the memorial scene will skip if EMS is too low. Not sure about the characters though

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chris2365 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I asked before but I don't think I got a reply.

Does this modded ending take variables such as EMS and who lives/dies into account?


Yes it does. Epilogue Scenes will change and the memorial scene will skip if EMS is too low. Not sure about the characters though


What about the credits? If i play the credits from the main menu, will it play the new song? Or does it still play faunts?

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This is honestly pretty awful; I can appreciate the work put into it, but it honestly just looks and sounds like a bad fan-fiction.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

chris2365 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I asked before but I don't think I got a reply.

Does this modded ending take variables such as EMS and who lives/dies into account?


Yes it does. Epilogue Scenes will change and the memorial scene will skip if EMS is too low. Not sure about the characters though


What about the credits? If i play the credits from the main menu, will it play the new song? Or does it still play faunts?


I have no idea. You'd be better off asking MrFob (I had no part in this mod, just answered based on what I read earlier in the thread Image IPB)

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Reizo Ryuu wrote...

This is honestly pretty awful; I can appreciate the work put into it, but it honestly just looks and sounds like a bad fan-fiction.


First off Mass Effect 3 is not a mod friendly game at all. The creator had little to work with. What did you expect? Someone to mod brand new cutscenes, hire the actual voice actors and put together a brand new ending with the money from his own pocket? If you don't like it, that's one thing. But don't be calling it awful, because considering what Fob had to work with, he did a pretty good job.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

This is honestly pretty awful; I can appreciate the work put into it, but it honestly just looks and sounds like a bad fan-fiction.


First off Mass Effect 3 is not a mod friendly game at all. The creator had little to work with. What did you expect? Someone to mod brand new cutscenes, hire the actual voice actors and put together a brand new ending with the money from his own pocket? If you don't like it, that's one thing. But don't be calling it awful, because considering what Fob had to work with, he did a pretty good job.


I'm pretty sure if ME3 was more mod friendly, we'd have dozens of ending mods. Just managing this is an achievement

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

This is honestly pretty awful; I can appreciate the work put into it, but it honestly just looks and sounds like a bad fan-fiction.


First off Mass Effect 3 is not a mod friendly game at all. The creator had little to work with. What did you expect? Someone to mod brand new cutscenes, hire the actual voice actors and put together a brand new ending with the money from his own pocket? If you don't like it, that's one thing. But don't be calling it awful, because considering what Fob had to work with, he did a pretty good job.


Read my post again, I'm not scoffing the work he put into it; with "looks and sound" I didn't mean the visuals or audio, I meant the progression of events, It looks like the ending to a disney movie.

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Reizo Ryuu wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Reizo Ryuu wrote...

This is honestly pretty awful; I can appreciate the work put into it, but it honestly just looks and sounds like a bad fan-fiction.


First off Mass Effect 3 is not a mod friendly game at all. The creator had little to work with. What did you expect? Someone to mod brand new cutscenes, hire the actual voice actors and put together a brand new ending with the money from his own pocket? If you don't like it, that's one thing. But don't be calling it awful, because considering what Fob had to work with, he did a pretty good job.


Read my post again, I'm not scoffing the work he put into it; with "looks and sound" I didn't mean the visuals or audio, I meant the progression of events, It looks like the ending to a disney movie.


Yes cause Disney has a monopoly on endings where the hero doesn't die in an incredibly stupid way.

News flash: Heros living is something that can be found throughout many stories and does not make it bad.

And last I checked, that ending still had a devestated galaxy and great many personal losses. It simply shifted some of the bitter to sweet.

Edit:

I really don't want to turn this into one of those threads, so I'm just going to go ahead and say I disagree and move on.

Modifié par Fawx9, 05 novembre 2012 - 02:54 .


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What are you talking about? I said progression of events; shepard surviving can actually be interpreted as what happens in the original red ending.
That the hero survives or not is irrelevant to what I said.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...



What about the credits? If i play the credits from the main menu, will it play the new song? Or does it still play faunts?


Just tried that one, and it still played Faunts from the main menu. Would be interested whether creds accessed from main menu being changed or not is any indication as to whether the rest of the mod works as well...

The editing process did appear to work for me though far as I am aware, no error-messages et al. Nowhere near the end, barely got done with Mars just now, so it will be a while before I can see for myself whether the rest works.

What are you talking about? I said progression of events; shepard
surviving can actually be interpreted as what happens in the original
red ending.
That the hero survives or not is irrelevant to what I said.


Is the big kaboom-thingamajig working as advertised on screen the huge problem in your view, then?

Because, honestly, I rather take that and be rid of an unneeded dose of creepy-kid-stupidity as a bonus.

Modifié par Chashan, 05 novembre 2012 - 02:58 .


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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Well i'm not as computer smart as some people are, and there are like 17 steps to installing this mod. I'd be AMAZED if i got everything right in one go.


Yeah, sorry about the non-automated install. We are on it though. Hopefully we'll have workable installer eventually. However, it's really not that difficult at all. All you have to do is replace all the files that have the same names and location as thos in the archives. The instructions are just that long because I spelled it out in detail (maybe too much). Just give it a go, I am sure you'll be fine.

As for the credit music: The game actually stores the music in three different places (so the track exists three times in the game files). I just changed the one, I needed for the credits so I think the main menu will play the old one. A side effect of this is that, if you abort the credits and the game goes to the stargazer scene, you might briefly hear the old version (since the game seems to load up two of them for some reason). It's only a very minor glitch though (it even happens in the vanilla game) so I didn't pay much attntion to it.
BTW, if you want to have the song in the main menu, download MEEM (my first modding project, see my sig). In there you'll find a file that is called something like "Wwise?_mainmenu_streaming.pcc" (I don't have the files here atm so I can't tell you the exact name). If you replace the original file in the ME3\\BioGame\\CookedPCConsole\\ folder, you should have Malukah in the credits in the main menu.

@Chashan: Thanks for testing.

@Reizo: While I don't think it really qualifies as a "Disney ending", I do agree that the progression of events is very rushed and unexplained and that the "good" outcome still seems a bit forced, especially since without the catalyst, you are not given any explanations about anything whatsoever. However, the original explanations were so self-defeating IMO, that it's still better to take them out. In my first (and still my favorite) modding attempt, I tried to get the best of both worlds (see MEEM in my sig). That ending is still very bitter though and because in the aftermath of MEEM, many people asked for something like MEHEM, when I realized that I could make it possible, I had to try it.
EDIT: I should add that I last tested this with an older version of ME3, so if it doesn't work, never mind and be sure to make a back-up of the original file.

Modifié par MrFob, 05 novembre 2012 - 03:13 .


#442
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MrFob wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

Well i'm not as computer smart as some people are, and there are like 17 steps to installing this mod. I'd be AMAZED if i got everything right in one go.


Yeah, sorry about the non-automated install. We are on it though. Hopefully we'll have workable installer eventually. However, it's really not that difficult at all. All you have to do is replace all the files that have the same names and location as thos in the archives. The instructions are just that long because I spelled it out in detail (maybe too much). Just give it a go, I am sure you'll be fine.

As for the credit music: The game actually stores the music in three different places (so the track exists three times in the game files). I just changed the one, I needed for the credits so I think the main menu will play the old one. A side effect of this is that, if you abort the credits and the game goes to the stargazer scene, you might briefly hear the old version (since the game seems to load up two of them for some reason). It's only a very minor glitch though (it even happens in the vanilla game) so I didn't pay much attntion to it.
BTW, if you want to have the song in the main menu, download MEEM (my first modding project, see my sig). In there you'll find a file that is called something like "Wwise?_mainmenu_streaming.pcc" (I don't have the files here atm so I can't tell you the exact name). If you replace the original file in the ME3BioGameCookedPCConsole folder, you should have Malukah in the credits in the main menu.


Hopefully Image IPB

Anyways i love the new credits song you put in. It feels more fitting for the end of the trilogy. I know i'm a minority on this but i never liked the new Faunts song for ME3. It's short, boring, and personally i think it feels uninsipired. M4 Part 2 on the other hand was fantastic.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...
Hopefully Image IPB

Anyways i love the new credits song you put in. It feels more fitting for the end of the trilogy. I know i'm a minority on this but i never liked the new Faunts song for ME3. It's short, boring, and personally i think it feels uninsipired. M4 Part 2 on the other hand was fantastic.


First of all, I am a total fan of Malukah's music, all of it, not just Reignite (but that song in particular). My main thought in changing it however was to give the whole ending more of a Hollywood feel (much like the first Mass Effect had). For this reason, I thought an actual song - as opposed to an instrumental piece - would fit much better. I like the Faunts and I think especially in ME1, they work great but this was just going from A+++ to A+++++ IMO. Besides, I wanted to shpw off my new ability to do music import at every opportunity :).
BTW, I wrote a message to Malukah and she approves of the song being in the mod.

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Eterna5 wrote...

ld1449 wrote...

I'm gonna make a prediction right now and say that this is probably gonna be the most downloaded mod in the whole game.

Outside of Shep looking like he got run over by a truck while putting up the memorial plate this is pretty damn good


Why? It's just a cheap imitation that is in no way cannonical. I want an ending that is actually aupported by the creators of the franchise. 


Well I don't, that ending blows.

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MrFob wrote...

Thanks guys, I am happy people like it.
Ok, so I do not change the models themselves, just their placement in the scene (I managed to feed the red ending into the green memorial scene for this purpose). The fact that Shepard looks so bad and still wears torn armour is because this particular look is set at the beginning of the mission (aka, after you get hit by the beam). It would be incredibly complex (and probably impossible at this point) to change that at the point of the memorial.


I don't know anything about modding ME3, but would it be theoretically possible to "cheat" and give some other model a Shepard skin for that scene?  Maybe the banged up face with casual chepard clothing???

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Reizo Ryuu wrote...

What are you talking about? I said progression of events; shepard surviving can actually be interpreted as what happens in the original red ending.
That the hero survives or not is irrelevant to what I said.


Yes, and he MAYBE "survives" in the least satisfying way posible.  It sucks, people aren't happy because it sucks.  This mod leaves me with the bare minimal amount of closure that I require for a scenario where Shep survives, the original high EMS red ending does NOT.   

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Just watched the ending. Incredible. Thanks for doing this.

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Prefer this to the original ending - not going to say more on that so they don't have an excuse to close this thread.
That said, it's too rosy an ending for me.
Shepard fighting the Reapers for too big for either party to make it out alive - and even Shepard beating them at all was slim odds.
When the technology is there I'll make my own ending that has most of my squad dead with Garrus and Tali pulling Shepard's broken corpse out of a pile of dead Reapers and everyone in tears. And by 'technology' I obviously mean that someone does it for me or I press a button.

Great work though.
Whilst Bioware have washed their hands of this it's encouraging to see that others still care about it.

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hmm must have imagined all those other deaths in the game. thanks wraithful

by that i mean. with codex, and news and all that . planets lost. races on the brink of extinction. half of sword and 99% of hammer lost. how is that rosy ?

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ghost9191 wrote...

hmm must have imagined all those other deaths in the game. thanks wraithful

by that i mean. with codex, and news and all that . planets lost. races on the brink of extinction. half of sword and 99% of hammer lost. how is that rosy ?


Ahh, that's just stats - there's no emotional attachment so for me it doesn't matter.
I assume at this point I can use spoilers in this forum?
If not, look away now!!!



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Anderson dying is of course a huge moment, but other than that there isn't really anything else of note other than numbers.
It hit me a lot more when Tali and Shepard just plain murdered Legion (I think I sat at that particular choice for a real ten minutes trying to decide - and making you shoot him each time really made me feel like a piece of crap, awesome scene) or of course Mordin's sacrifice.