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MEHEM - the Mass Effect (3) Happy Ending Mod - No more star kid, no more deaths and a reunion


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#526
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MrFob wrote...

@JakeMcDon: I am not sure how this is relevant.


It's perfectly relevant.  How is "fixing" the endings your job?  Smarteck and others fix the crappy textures.  Bioware can pass.  That stupid data app of theirs is broken for three months - they do nothing, but a fan devises a workaround.  No need for BW to fix it.  It's "fixed".  Now you "fix" the endings.

I just think its a trend that doesn't need to happen.  It gives gaming companies too many free passes.  It's like a car company selling you a car and expecting you to build your own transmission for it.

I don't know why BW did what they did since they hardly talked to us since release. All they did say was that they apparently had no intention of touching the ending again.


Why would they?  Thanks to people like you, they don't have to do anything.  You wanna change it, be my guest, I'm not objecting to that. I'm not disparaging the mod. More power to you.  I'm just p!ssed that there's even a need for it at all.

So I didn't do their job, I tried to create a new interpretation of the ending, not as a cop out, or as an insult to them or to take anything away from them but as a genuine tribute to a great franchise. That's it, nothing more to it.


I didn't accuse you of anything.  You create a mod that can completely change the ending.  Fans ask, beg, threaten and cajole for BW to do more or less just that. "Give us the cliched happy ending we want!  We'll be happy and leave you alone!"

You can do it, why can't a company with far more resources than you do the same?  Why won't they?  They can't damage their reputation any more than it is already by giving the fans what they want.

As for discussing BW's business models, please try to keep this thread on topic. Thanks.


I'm not discussing BW's business models.  That was just to illustrate that if there was money in it - and there is - why won't BW do what you're doing?

Do people really believe that Bioware is afraid of "looking bad" if they retconn their endings or add to them?  To do what?  Salvage some egos?

Really?

The apparent need for this mod just illustrates what I've been saying.

This mod will be huge, y'know, and half of the downloaders will download it just to spite BW.  You've begun a new phenom here in BSN, I've no doubt.

Good luck with it, sincerely.

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Ok, I see where you are coming from but I never saw it as "a job". I had fun making this (and MEEM) and for me, it felt like finally beating the game. I should probably add that I never modded any other game before and I think I never will again. Mass Effect is special for me in that regard because despite the way it ended, due to everything that happened before in the last 5 years,the franchise got dear enough to me to want to do it and to have fun working on it. I may be mad at the ending but I still have heaps of respect for the people making ME because apart from this mistake and few other tings I don't quite like, they did do a hell of a job.
I don't think that we have set a bad precedent here either because BW decided long before this mod to never touch the endings again. If they wouldn't have made that statement, I probably wouldn't have started with this project in the first place but rather waited for them to act. As it stands however, there was no point in waiting.
One more word on BWs reaction to the ending issues and why they did what they did: I didn't like that particular chapter either and I have no idea. The only ones who know stopped talking to us 6 months ago, unfortunately.

Modifié par MrFob, 06 novembre 2012 - 06:11 .


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MrFob wrote...

I made a To-Do-List. If you think you can help with any of these points or if you think I missed something in it, please contact me


For Garrus, avoiding the hug (by using control ending, for example) would also get around the mega-distorted facial animations.

TBH Fob, I have no idea what the deal is with the red borders around the new scenes.  Am I the only one who gets that, or has anyone else gotten it?  If it's not reproducible with other peoples' games, it might just be my machine, and it's not a big deal, no more than a few pixels.

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Yep, that was my thought as well about Garrus. Two birds with one stone.
Let's wait and see if others report the red borders. Not sure what I could do about it anyway. Frankly, given the number of downloads, I am amazed that we haven't seen more bug reports yet.
And btw, someone on youtube reports that the Tali hug works perfectly. One less thing to worry about :).

Modifié par MrFob, 06 novembre 2012 - 06:17 .


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I have to say this, thank you.
I might just be able to finally want to complete that 2nd true play through that I left hanging.

I am surprised that the BSN download counter shows only 50 + downloads.
(amendment : considering BSN's ****** poor download rate, I see why .. way to utilize my fiber conection but I am doing so anyways just to bump that number up :) )

People should really get it from BSN if only to show Bioware just what they have passed up on.

Modifié par Archonsg, 06 novembre 2012 - 06:34 .


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Archonsg wrote...

I have to say this, thank you.
I might just be able to finally want to complete that 2nd true play through that I left hanging.

I am surprised that the BSN download counter shows only 50 + downloads.
People should really get it from BSN if only to show Bioware just what they have passed up on.


It wasn't visible on BSN until today.  

I'm finishing the ME2 import that I'd been dragging my feet on so I can finally play ME3 with my ManShep.  It'll be a while until I get to the ending--by then there might be another shiny version of the mod for me to test :)

Oh, and on that note, question for Fob--when there's a new version of the mod released, are we gonna have to go back to a clean install of the game?  Or will it possible to use DLC explorer to just replace files again?

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I switched the language of my game back to German and with that EDI's speaks at the end of the memorial scene, when Shepard hugs his LI. In the English version you can hear only Hackett. I think EDI's alive and not alone-lines are better here.

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Great work MrFob. Getting rid of god kid removes so many of the plot holes from ME3 and while some still do exist, I can say with absolute certainty that most all of my complaints about the game would have been overlooked had Bioware released this, either in the vanilla or the EC. It's nice to see someone finally do this game justice and give the Mass Effect series the ending it deserves. Bioware, you should both take note of how to properly end a series and be completely ashamed of what you gave us.

Modifié par JPN17, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:10 .


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thx a lot for this mod ^^ I hope you can soon solve the problem with Leviathan ^^;

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W00t. Finally. I sacrificed some sleep for this. :P

Got the Kaidan Alenko version up. (Gay)

And if I say so myself, Kaidan is adorable here. ;D

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Anyone did a try with ManShepxTali to see how that comes out in terms of clipping and everything else? I'd do that myself but I don't have any savegame ready to do it quickly.

Also, I'm quite capable with Photoshop and I can help with the slides. If you have some screenshot or so you'd like ot use for that send me via PM. Also if you send me the Geth/Quarian slide from Sinthesys I can change/remove any trace of green glowing and make it work with the modded ending.

Modifié par Alienmorph, 06 novembre 2012 - 11:00 .


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I wasn't ever gonna play the ME3 through to the end. I started and played 4 games from the start from ME1 to ME3 just to explore the many possibilities. But playing it to the end, nevvah!

But now, I can finally do it. I can take myself and my belowed Liara to the end, give her a hug and then we can fly away towards the stars and get lost.

To bad you aren't a female MrFlob. I'd marry you then. Oh well, I just stick with my Liara and marry her then.

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I stay away from BSN for a couple months, and then somebody goes and does this. Seriously, MrFob, you rock. Keep on keepin' on...hopefully there are some equally skilled people on the BSN who can help you get through that to do list.

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WOW! This looks amazing!!! unfortunatly I cannot install it (I'm on Xbox360) but i'm looking at the videos and it seams just so perfect!!! I,m really happy that you took the time to made this ending (even if I can't use it personnaly, I know that so many person will use it and that it will make them want to play again and again...)

Great job!!! Bravo!

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Arxduke wrote...

W00t. Finally. I sacrificed some sleep for this. :P

Got the Kaidan Alenko version up. (Gay)

And if I say so myself, Kaidan is adorable here. ;D


And yet another default Shepard Image IPB

Am i the only one who's gonna play this mod with a unique Shepard? I guess if that's the case it's my duty to record and post it on here when it happens.

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For Garrus, I hope you won't remove the hug completely! It might look a little silly, but it would be unfortunate to remove interaction between them, unless it can be changed to something less clippy.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...
And yet another default Shepard Image IPB

Am i the only one who's gonna play this mod with a unique Shepard? I guess if that's the case it's my duty to record and post it on here when it happens.



Sorry, while I'm curious too, my custom Sheps tend to look like escape lab experiments Image IPB

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I felt that this was what the high EMS destroy ending should've been. It still has that bitter sweet element; the bitter part being Anderson's death. The ending we originally have with Shepard's death would then be the low EMS ending. This would then at least add some sort of (significant) variety between the EMS ratings.
After viewing this mod, I felt something that I didn't first time round finishing the game; satisfied. I understand the limitations you faced and with that in consideration you did a bloody amazing job. Congrats and keep it going!

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I had no idea that I needed this in my life... I'm not much into the Joker space Rambo rescue and I don't really mind the Star Child that much, but to have that last bit (Shepard placing Anderson's name on the memorial & then giving their LI a hug) be part of high EMS destroy ending...

What I woudn't give to get that. :crying:

Damn my primordial laptop and inability to play on PC! :pinched:

Modifié par MissOuJ, 06 novembre 2012 - 03:37 .


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Hey guys,
Originally, I had planned to wait for Omega to update the mod for DLC but after getting "a bit" more impact with MEHEM than anticipated, I decided not to wait but to fork out the 800 BW points and make this work. I haven't even played the DLC yet but fortunately, adapting MEHEM for it turned out not to be much trouble. So the fix is up and ready for download.
Note: You will need to install the base version of MEHEM and the Leviathan fix for this to work. So download both archives and get going.

"N7 Day" is already upon us here in Australia, so you may consider this my little contribution to the celebrations and also a "thank you" for the overwhelming amount fo positive feedback I got. :wizard:
Cheers and have fun!

Modifié par MrFob, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:29 .


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Hey,Cpt.Fob. Concerning the songs,I suppose "Leaving Earth",track 2 from ME3 score,fits well where you have used "combat theme from Project Overlord". Also, I think you could use "An End once and for all (extended version)" in the part where you have used "Suicide Mission". If this song starts playing right after Joker says something like - not those things again, not again - it could fit very well (almost as it was in the original).Might be better this way. By the way, great mod!

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@ArxDuke: thanks for uploading!!! Yep, the hug really does work best with humanoids and with Kaidan's animations, MaleShep doesn't move like a girl any more. That is the animation I want to use for every Shepard in the next version of the mod.
Now we only need that Javik hug :).

@Alienmorph: I haven't seen a Tali video yet but a youtube user has reported that it works fine. Thanks for offering help with the slides. I'll PM you ASAP (maybe tomorrow though when I can get some stuff together first).

@Mims: At the moment, I am not sure how I could improve it. I don't really have the ability to work on the animations with meaningful results yet. I think taking out the hug for Garrus wouldn't be too bad though, since Garrus and Shep always seemed a bit more reserved about there relationship in public anyway.

@Lyncoln-Ap: Interesting suggestion for the first part, I'll have to try that out. As for the second part, I tried the old score and I really didn't like how it went with the new scenes. It just didn't fit anymore IMO. The SM track is of course very distinct to ME2 which is its greatest disadvantage. I am open for new music but it would have to be a really perfect fit. Not sure which one that would be though.

Modifié par MrFob, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:19 .


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Arxduke wrote...

W00t. Finally. I sacrificed some sleep for this. :P

Got the Kaidan Alenko version up. (Gay)

And if I say so myself, Kaidan is adorable here. ;D

That was beautiful :crying:

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Fob i have another question. I'm not american, english or australian. My game copy it's in italian language/audio. I can turn it to english if i want, but i want know by you if i can install this mod and keep the italian language. It's turn into a crash or it's all ok? Thank you.

P.S: Happy ending mod, it's "destroy ending" for the game, right?

Modifié par MAF1994, 06 novembre 2012 - 04:51 .


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MrFob wrote...

Hey guys,
Originally, I had planned to wait for Omega to update the mod for DLC but after getting "a bit" more impact with MEHEM than anticipated, I decided not to wait but to fork out the 800 BW points and make this work. I haven't even played the DLC yet but fortunately, adapting MEHEM for it turned out not to be much trouble. So the fix is up and ready for download.

So awesome, thank you. I can't wait to try it out tonight. I miss my Shepard and crew. ME3 had become a multiplayer game to me.