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MEHEM - the Mass Effect (3) Happy Ending Mod - No more star kid, no more deaths and a reunion


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MegaSovereign wrote...

iakus wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

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MrFob wrote...

@iakus: Unfortunately, since v0.2 both files together are bigger than 400 MB. That's the maximum file size for any project so I'd have to make a new project for it and that didn't make much sense to me. Feel free to download the main file from BSN though. Given that this project saw more downloads in 2 weeks than other got in years, if there was a point to be made, I am sure it has been made already. :)


Ah, that makes sense, then. 

And I did.  And when Harbinger landed and boomed "Shepard, you insult a future you cannot comprehend!"  it made my evening


I want to see the updated mod. That sounds awesome.


www.youtube.com/watch

The beam run from v2

Also, loved the dress blues with bruised face at the memorial scene.


Now that is awesome.


yes it is .. and there is still place for development.

if we could "fix" the normandy coming out of nowhere for evac, it would eliminate another issue. a shuttle, would be more plausible. sadly, i think this is not possible atm.

the videos will get some attention with the next updates though.

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^ well, a shuttle is no option since you need to rework the entire scene + animations. I doubt that's possible without proper modding tools.

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CptData wrote...

^ well, a shuttle is no option since you need to rework the entire scene + animations. I doubt that's possible without proper modding tools.


i know .. it would be the icing on the cake though.

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I think I asked this before, but are there EMS variations?

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MegaSovereign wrote...

I think I asked this before, but are there EMS variations?


i think it does.

with low ems, there is no memorial scene.

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Dr_Extrem wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I think I asked this before, but are there EMS variations?


i think it does.

with low ems, there is no memorial scene.


So it skips the shuttle extraction scene altogether? 

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

I think I asked this before, but are there EMS variations?


i think it does.

with low ems, there is no memorial scene.


So it skips the shuttle extraction scene altogether? 


shuttle extraction? ... no .. the normandy still does the extraction, as it does in the standard ec and the squadmates get vapourised by harby, if your ems is low.

our hope is, that the normandy can be changed into a shuttle during the evac scene before the conduit. (the normandy is one of the major issues during this scene)

sadly, this is not possible atm, because the modding tools do not allow it.

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CptData wrote...

^ well, a shuttle is no option since you need to rework the entire scene + animations. I doubt that's possible without proper modding tools.

Yeah, that scene would have been so much more logical had BW had the other squadmate take the injured one to an evac shuttle and back to the Normandy. Instead they went the grand and ridiculous route.

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thatdude90210 wrote...

CptData wrote...

^ well, a shuttle is no option since you need to rework the entire scene + animations. I doubt that's possible without proper modding tools.

Yeah, that scene would have been so much more logical had BW had the other squadmate take the injured one to an evac shuttle and back to the Normandy. Instead they went the grand and ridiculous route.


yeah . the normandy must be at white heat - it took only 5-6 seconds for her, to leave the battle, enter the atmoshpere and land in london.

phew .. thats fast ... ftl jump maybe?

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I have just finished my playthrough of the game with this mod installed, and I would like to comment on it.

First, I encountered no bugs, everything has worked flawlessly. The installation might seem a bit complicated for some people at first, but everything is described well in the readme file. It really doesn't take much longer to install this mod than to write another angry post about the ending of the game on the forums.

Now on to the content. Of course no mod can provide what BioWare promised and what should have been mandatory for a great trilogy such as this. What many people rightly expected was a range of several different possible endings in which most of at least the important decisions during the three games mattered visibly instead of just adding to some imaginary score. Of equal importance was proper closure to Shepard's story. Shepard as the protagonist of this story deserved better than the possible endings that the main game provided, and the players deserved more too after BioWare created such a remarkable character to which most players became attached during those three games. And in my opinion, a proper happy ending has to be one possible option for a trilogy such as this. Unfortunately, neither of that was delivered. Instead the otherwise fantastic game ended with some of the most contrived and badly written content at least in BioWare's history. And the EC did little to correct these shortcomings.

But all of that has been discussed countless times. As I said, no mod can be expected to add all the content that BioWare should have delivered in the first place. Nevertheless, this mod improves the finale of the game a lot, and it will certainly remain a part of my game. As far as I'm concerned, the star kid and its nonsense are now out of the game for good, and that alone makes it worth installing this mod. But even better, Shepard finally receives proper closure as well. In fact, the scene where Shepard is reunited with the LI is what I like best in this mod. Not only does it add exactly what I always felt was needed, it certainly does so in style. Right to in my case Liara's facial expression, the execution and staging of that scene is on par with the rest of the game. This is truly amazing, and the best part of it is that it's an in-game cutscene with our own Shepard taking part in it.

It remains somewhat unclear how exactly Shepard was rescued, but of course that's due to limitations especially as far as voiced content is concerned. Yet the clever recombination of cutscenes works well enough. And of course it's not as if BioWare themselves explained each and everything.

I also like the additions made to the scene where Shepard runs up to the beam. Harbinger's taunts add a small, but atmospheric detail to it.

I would probably vote to remove the final scene with the man and his grandchild, if possible. That scene always felt out of place to me, and it doesn't seem to serve a real purpose. We all know that it was just a story, there's no need to spell it out. Maybe it could be replaced by something more meaningful, but what that could be after the credits would be up for discussion.

Overall, this mod is most likely the best that we'll ever receive as far as a proper ending to the game is concerned. Any future updates would be appreciated, but the most important fixes to the ending of the game are there now. I would like to thank you, MrFob, for the mod and everyone else who made it possible, especially those who created the tools. The community and the resulting mods are one reason why my platform of choice for video games solidly remains the PC.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 26 novembre 2012 - 02:08 .


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Yeah, I'd like to skip the Stargazer scene too.

Honestly I wish I could just get the game to go to the menu after the credits roll.

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Can we please get a dev to comment on this? Like, "Hey! Nice work!" or "Wow, that's amazing"...just, nothing? No congrats, no nothing, not even from a mod? I'm disappointed. I applaud your work and any future updates to this mod.

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HiddenInWar wrote...

Can we please get a dev to comment on this? Like, "Hey! Nice work!" or "Wow, that's amazing"...just, nothing? No congrats, no nothing, not even from a mod? I'm disappointed. I applaud your work and any future updates to this mod.

The only thing they can really comment on with mods and such is "We do not and will officially support mods." 

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The ending is a bit of a sore spot with the dudes upstairs. Of anything, they probably respect the passion we (and particularly MrFob) has for the game, even if they don't personally like the mod (maybe some do). And as long as they don't delete the thread (they won't), who really cares?

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One thing I wanted to call out among the commentary here.

The stargazer scene. A lot of people don't like it, but I get the sense people don't like it just because it is so closely tied to the original horrible ending that we all hate. I get that but...

I really like the stargazer scene. It's actually pretty touching and meaningful. And particularly in the context of this new modded ending it is something that I prefer to keep around.

So here is me casting my vote to leave it in there.

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I actually dislike it even in the context of MEHEM having watched the SG scene recently, but again, that's just my personal opinion. ME is a character based series and random characters popping up at the end with little context talking about "the Shepard" and how we can't go around and fly (wat)...blargh. I'd rather just close on the reunion stuff before the credits. Or even something like a beautiful vista implying a future. Not more characters I don't relate to.

Hopefully someone figures out how to make that an optional scene skip for those who don't like it.

But, at this point - it's all nitpick and preference, the huge giant awful problems are solved and things are pretty good as it is. If you don't like the Stargazer scene (like me) nothing stops you from hitting ALT+F4 at the end of the credits.

Modifié par PKchu, 26 novembre 2012 - 04:36 .


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I dont like it.

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Question:
I have the first version of the mod installed. What Files(s) do I need to replace/add to upgrade my mod to V2?

Also I installed the V2, replacing the V1 files, and when it comes to the final level (getting onto the citadel/into the room with the Keepers) the game hangs on the loading screen (the blue wormwhole-like load screen) and the game won't load the final level. Anyone when into that problem? i downgraded back to V1 and everything works fine.

I also do not have levithan installed.

Thanks!

Modifié par spamtrash, 26 novembre 2012 - 04:58 .


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PKchu wrote...

Yeah, I'd like to skip the Stargazer scene too.

Honestly I wish I could just get the game to go to the menu after the credits roll.


Must say, that stargazer scene could be replaced by a final fan-created image of Shepard + LI (including ME2 LIs) - and they simply say nothing. You just see them sitting at a more or less romantic place.
If you didn't romance anyone, a picture of the entire Normandy crew including every member could work to as memory :)

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CptData wrote...

PKchu wrote...

Yeah, I'd like to skip the Stargazer scene too.

Honestly I wish I could just get the game to go to the menu after the credits roll.


Must say, that stargazer scene could be replaced by a final fan-created image of Shepard + LI (including ME2 LIs) - and they simply say nothing. You just see them sitting at a more or less romantic place.
If you didn't romance anyone, a picture of the entire Normandy crew including every member could work to as memory :)

i actually really like that idea. theres quite a few pics i would like to see after the credits involving the romances

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CptData wrote...

PKchu wrote...

Yeah, I'd like to skip the Stargazer scene too.

Honestly I wish I could just get the game to go to the menu after the credits roll.


Must say, that stargazer scene could be replaced by a final fan-created image of Shepard + LI (including ME2 LIs) - and they simply say nothing. You just see them sitting at a more or less romantic place.
If you didn't romance anyone, a picture of the entire Normandy crew including every member could work to as memory :)


Since the whole stargazer seen is a bik movie file you can replace the file with another bik movie file
The only caveat is the audio for that scene is separate so you'd have to wade in and change/silence the audio files for that scene  within the game files.

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I don't think that Stargazer scene is a movie file - not sure you'd be able to replace it with a slide.

EDIT: Wait, it is? Glorious days! : D I'll have to make an image for myself to replace it with and..er...wade throught he nightmare of editing audio.

EDIT: Yep, it is a movie - End004 in the original main movie files.  Not sure what it'd be in the dlc_end stuff but that does show it is replacable without it being hell.

Modifié par PKchu, 26 novembre 2012 - 05:32 .


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Wow, just saw V0.2. Major improvement over the old version, and it's well on the way to being remarkable. I think one of the things holding this back is a general lack of "space scenes" for certain segments (like the scene of the Normandy's cannons deploying from ME2). I haven't had much opportunity to work on any scenes, but seeing the ending cleaned up a bit is giving me ideas.

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spamtrash wrote...

Question:
I have the first version of the mod installed. What Files(s) do I need to replace/add to upgrade my mod to V2?

Also I installed the V2, replacing the V1 files, and when it comes to the final level (getting onto the citadel/into the room with the Keepers) the game hangs on the loading screen (the blue wormwhole-like load screen) and the game won't load the final level. Anyone when into that problem? i downgraded back to V1 and everything works fine.

I also do not have levithan installed.

Thanks!


So this problem was solved. Somehow. I reinstalled everything.

Now I have a new issue:

I can't hear any of Harby's taunts now where as before I could. It's just muted silence whenever he is supposed to talk. I'm guessing I forgot to install something?

Thanks!

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I don't mind the SG scene. I mean it's brief, it's after the credits, it doesn't really get in the way of anything.

Besides the fact that it's Buzz Aldrin offsets much of the cheese factor it may have...