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MEHEM - the Mass Effect (3) Happy Ending Mod - No more star kid, no more deaths and a reunion


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#1376
MrFob

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@Seleya_LL: Thanks for the clarification. I have actually not tried the mesh import in detail yet. Tried it once but crashed my game with it. And you are correct, the memorial scene automatically loads all the henchmen. These are then scope named and I can easily switch the tags for the names to switch people around without messing with the actual meshes themselves. Since Garrus' civilian outfit is not part of the henchmen files, I can't easily access it in this scene. My plan is to reposition him a little to the back to make the animations fit. Fortunately, circumstances allow me to modify that position for Garrus without messing it up for everyone else. The difficult part is to get the coordinates just right.
By the way, that's a nice banner in your sig. Did you make it? Mind if I link it in the OP?

@Quething and all the others: Those lines sound great. I am at work atm and don't have much time to think about it but there are some beautiful suggestion here already. I guess by the time I get around to contribute I might be too late ofr the party but looks really cool.

@PorcelynDoll: Did you try to replay with a save from before Cerberus HQ with everything installed? What you describe sound like a bug that occurs i you use an old save which didn't get properly flagged for the EC yet with Leviathan and MEHEM. Using a save from before Cronos Station should get rid of the problem.

@Ptince Keldar: I agree. When I made the first version of the mod I never thought it would ever get that popular so I didn't really think about the name at all :).

@bagelbyte_2012: Yep, this is v0.2. "There many letters left in the alphabet" ... uh wait, that was something else.

About Omega: I don't have the DLC but from what I could gather, the files don't interact at all. There should be no problems due to this.

@BillyHthcoc: That sounds like you have a corrupted file in that DLC. Are you sure you installed the Leviathan fix into the Leviathan DLC and the rest of MEHEM into the EC DLC properly? I am sorry, I can't do any testing until I get home.

One more thing, did anyone do a playthrough with MEHEMv0.2 (plus add-ins) where the Quarians got wiped out by the Geth? Did anyone see areyouareaper's new Geth slide yet? If not, I'm gonna have to upload a video of it.

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BillyHtchcoc wrote...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it now appears that with the latest update of Origin/ME3 has now made it that the Extended Cut DLC doesn't validate if it's been modded.

I got an update from Origin this evening when I started my PC, but I don't have that issue. I have MEHEM v2 mod, plus from Ashes, EC, Leviathan, and Omega. 

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Just did a full reinstall of every mod I have and an updated ME3, as well as the latest non-beta Origin. No issues.

Mr. Fob is probably correct when he says you probably have a corrupt file or something. Perhaps redownload MEHEM and reinstall?

"One more thing, did anyone do a playthrough with MEHEMv0.2 (plus add-ins) where the Quarians got wiped out by the Geth? Did anyone see areyouareaper's new Geth slide yet? If not, I'm gonna have to upload a video of it."

I have a save that has the quarians dead my sister played. I've seen the slide outside of the game, it's nice. If you need to me to I can run through that playthrough and see if it works.

EDIT: Only other thing I can think of is if you edited your sfxgame.pcc to increase how many saves you have and installed MEHEM, you need to reupdate Mr. Fob's PCConsoleTOC.bin - I had that error once.

Modifié par PKchu, 30 novembre 2012 - 04:58 .


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Pk, if you have the save ready, it would be great if you could run through it when you have the chance, just to confirm that the geth slide works properly. Thanks!
Also, I can't be sure but I think the SFXGame.pcc is not BillyHtchcoc's issue. He seems to have problems with the LDC authentication. This is usually the case if a file within the sfar doesn't comply with the testing criteria. I would recommend to replace the changed Default.sfar with your backup and see if that works before re-installing MEHEM. You have a backup, right? If not, you'd have go to Origin -> Game info, right click the DLC and click "repair" (at least I think it's repair, could also be "check installation", "re-install" or something like that). This will re-download and re-install the original DLC. If you want to test if the original works again, be sure to replace all the MEHEM files in the main game folder with their back-ups as well, otherwise weird stuff can happen (if you didn't make backups of those files, I'm afraid you'd have to re-install the whole game again from Origin ... so always make backups).

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I actually am (after having things obstruct me from doing so over and over) hopefully going to get the MEHEM in game for the first time for my canon Shepard. After I do that, I'll run through with the dead quarian Shepard on casual and god mod to see if I get the slide to trigger. Probably happen like tomorrow morning or something.

It's a pre-EC save so I have to start from before Cronos.

Modifié par PKchu, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:20 .


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No worries, take your time, just if/when you have the time and the chance, it would be nice to know.

Also, about the suggestions for lines: How about one for Captain Kirrahe (and in reference to the retake movement):
"You asked us to hold the line? We moved the line forward!"
:)

EDIT: PK tested the geth slide and it works. Thanks PK!

Modifié par MrFob, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:14 .


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One thing I love about this mod is how much time it saves me. The catalyst scene was painfully long, even when I skipped as much dialogue as I could. I can't unsee the catalyst, but as least I don't have to suffer through it any more, thanks to this mod. :)

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 It would have been cool if my music was added to this... :( then again, I don't know if my music would fit anywhere... 

My Mass Effect inspired music! 

Maybe the song, Bittersweet?  

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You are very talented Iclonic. It would be great if Mr.Fob could use st from you instead of suicide mission song. If nothing fits you can always compose a new one, right? :wizard:

Modifié par M0rf3usTHEbEST, 30 novembre 2012 - 07:53 .


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Tested the geth slide. Works just fine.

If anyone wants to see it: Link.

Modifié par PKchu, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:27 .


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Alrighty... I went through and did a fresh reinstall, checking everything along the way. It is working now. Apparently the way that my PC reads the data caused the file size checksum to mismatch by just enough to trigger an 'invalid' message.

Good to know that I can still keep my MEHEM. This has given the game a major boost in the arm (I wasn't really sure if I'd grab Omega under the old ending at all) and I don't ever want to go back to the old endings :)

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@Iclonic: I sent you a pm.

@PK: Thanks for testing and for uploading a picture!

@BillyHtchcoc: Glad to hear it. Sorry about the complicated install. Hope at some point we can make an automated installer.

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Okay I got it working. I must have missed moving over some of the files.

It was everything I wanted and more Mr. Fob. Thank you so much for putting things right. You brought tears to my eyes. Good tears because this should have been the high ems destroy in the first place. Thank you for all your hard work and to all the testers who made this possible.

Just one thing I noticed. it's not huge but in the wall scene Garrus' eyes are looking all the way to the left so the pupil isn't visible, instead of at Shep.

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@Iclonic

I agree Bittersweet would be a good choice, but I don't know how it could fit in though, maybe during the slides? Personally I love Malukah's song "Reignite" in the credits, I hope that isn't changed.

Great job with the music all of the tracks are very good.

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Quething wrote...

Ash: Get it done and go home.
Garrus: Because there's no Vakarian without Shepard.
Jack: ? (She's got a line telling Shep he better not die, IIRC. That would be a good reference)
Kaidan: ?
Liara: For the little blue children.
Miranda: ? (Something about it not being a perfect ending, just perfect for us?)
Sam: There's a white picket fence waiting.
Steve: Because one love to mourn is enough.
Tali: So Tali won't lose her home.

There's this famous quote from Grunt  : "I don’t need luck ! I have ammo". So you might do something like "I don't need luck ! I have MEHEM".
Here are quite some quotes from Grunt (and also other ME characters).

Modifié par Grotaiche, 30 novembre 2012 - 04:45 .


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@BillyHthcoc: That sounds like you have a corrupted file in that DLC. Are you sure you installed the Leviathan fix into the Leviathan DLC and the rest of MEHEM into the EC DLC properly? I am sorry, I can't do any testing until I get home.


Hey Mr.Fob i 200% certain i extracted the files for all you mentiont above in the right location there a defrinite problem i did all the extract to the right paths correctly and i cannot load any of my shepard character saves i storngly advise you to test it and give feedback.

In addition ffs can someone pls clarify why there is a beta version origin when i go to main ea page to download latest update? if origin is ea why do some pple have a so called beta and a duplicate that a supposed full version? does it really make a difference as to whether this mehem mod works? why should it if it the same with a nother variation of the name? ea are b.s. and full of it here...

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visionazzery wrote...
Hey Mr.Fob i 200% certain i extracted the files for all you mentiont above in the right location there a defrinite problem i did all the extract to the right paths correctly and i cannot load any of my shepard character saves i storngly advise you to test it and give feedback.

Sounds like you haven't done the mod correctly. There's only 3 files to extract and put in the right place, the rest have to be replaced via a ME file explorer program that's included. The exact instructions are also included.

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MrFob wrote...

@Seleya_LL: Thanks for the clarification. I have actually not tried the mesh import in detail yet. Tried it once but crashed my game with it. And you are correct, the memorial scene automatically loads all the henchmen. These are then scope named and I can easily switch the tags for the names to switch people around without messing with the actual meshes themselves. Since Garrus' civilian outfit is not part of the henchmen files, I can't easily access it in this scene. My plan is to reposition him a little to the back to make the animations fit. Fortunately, circumstances allow me to modify that position for Garrus without messing it up for everyone else. The difficult part is to get the coordinates just right.
By the way, that's a nice banner in your sig. Did you make it? Mind if I link it in the OP?

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Thanks for confirmation. Regarding both mesh imports and outfit, I already feared as much from your descriptions before, but it's good to know for sure.

About the banner: Feel free to link it, if you like. There are obvious problems with it, though: Since it's a flycam shot of my custom Shepard, it's not a good choice for anybody who likes to have his / her own character in the signature - and I never figured out the maximum picture size in either x or y for sigs or how to achieve it (splitting it in two / four parts...).
I still have a copy of the 'last' autosave, though, so recreating similar banners with canon Shepard and any on-board LI (thanks to Gibbed's editor) is not a problem if there's any interest in it.

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Grotaiche wrote...

Quething wrote...

Ash: Get it done and go home.
Garrus: Because there's no Vakarian without Shepard.
Jack: ? (She's got a line telling Shep he better not die, IIRC. That would be a good reference)
Kaidan: ?
Liara: For the little blue children.
Miranda: ? (Something about it not being a perfect ending, just perfect for us?)
Sam: There's a white picket fence waiting.
Steve: Because one love to mourn is enough.
Tali: So Tali won't lose her home.

There's this famous quote from Grunt  : "I don’t need luck ! I have ammo". So you might do something like "I don't need luck ! I have MEHEM".
Here are quite some quotes from Grunt (and also other ME characters).


I like the one iakus mentioned for Kaidan: "I can't lose you again." (he said it during the good bye's scene in London, just before that paragon interrupt kiss Image IPB)

But whatever the sig will be, I'd rather keep the "Ad Astra Per Aspera" line on it, because that line feels very fitting with this mod, imho. Maybe a little something like this: (just as an example?)
Ad Astra Per Aspera
"I can't lose you again.."

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And back to the mod it self...

So I finally finished my canon Shepard's play through and now I am lost for words.. This mod has made me love the series (especially ME3) all over again. I put my heart in it while playing, can hand wave that terrible journal system, the fetch quest becomes interesting (how crazy is that?) and I completed every single bloody mission there is. But this mod has also made me feel sad, because now I just couldn't let Shep go and starts wishing that the Commander will be the protagonist again in ME4. Before this, I really dont care about ME4 (or ME:whateverthetitlewillbe) but now I do and I want Shep and Co back in action again (although it's likely NOT going to happen. and probably for the best, but still... Image IPB) At least in my side of the universe, Shepard retire with a happy(er) note. She's got her man and there's nothing more that I can ask for. Bioware should thank you imo, because of this mod I'm planning to get Leviathan and more (Omega not included Image IPB not a fan of Aria)


And finally my laundry list of things about the mod...

  • My game crashed once when Shep enters that beam. re-load the game from the auto-save and everything rolls nicely (maybe it crashed because I momentarily lost connection to the internet? idk)
  • Harbringer's lines were seamless! omg that was just several leagues above 'awsome'
  • One of my favorite part is where 'that certain captainImage IPB' outright refuse Hackett's orders to retreat and provide fire cover for the Normandy long enough to rescue Shep. And I think Joker's : "I'm glad you're in charge" is also fitting to that regard.
  • Finally seeing my Shep placed Anderson's name on the Normandy's memorial wall.. Image IPB very well done.  Shep wearing the Alliance formal uniform with a still battered face is definately a plus there.
  • And of course the crown jewel of it all: the LI hug scene. It was in a perfect timing when Hackett says "..we will face them, together.."
  • I feel with this ending somehow I can respect the reapers more as an arrogant all powerful foe, the same feel I get when meeting with Sovereign and Harbringer, as opposed to seeing them as a tool to some shackeled AI.
  • I love Malukah's re-ignite in the end credits.

Aaand if I have to nitpick:
  • Probably it's just the audio that needs more polishing so it blends better and less jarring?
  • Maybe add a bit of that space combat to the background when Normandy deploys the rescue shuttle. That scene felt a little 'quiet', imo...
  • Not sure about other LI's, but I think Kaidan's facial expression was a little too sad there Image IPB maybe tone that down a bit?

Once again, thank you very much for MrFob and all you wonderful people assisting this mod. MEHEM is my canon and I wouldn't accept it any other way. Cheers and good health to you all Image IPB

EDIT: better lay out.

Modifié par d1ta, 30 novembre 2012 - 06:45 .


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d1ta wrote...

So I finally finished my canon Shepard's play through and now I am lost for words.. This mod has made me love the series (especially ME3) all over again. I put my heart in it while playing, can hand wave that terrible journal system, the fetch quest becomes interesting (how crazy is that?) and I completed every single bloody mission there is. But this mod has also made me feel sad, because now I just couldn't let Shep go and starts wishing that the Commander will be the protagonist again in ME4. Before this, I really dont care about ME4 (or ME:whateverthetitlewillbe) but now I do and I want Shep and Co back in action again (although it's likely NOT going to happen. and probably for the best, but still... Image IPB) At least in my side of the universe, Shepard retire with a happy(er) note. She's got her man and there's nothing more that I can ask for. Bioware should thank you imo, because of this mod I'm planning to get Leviathan and more (Omega not included Image IPB not a fan of Aria)


The mod actually makes me feel better about Shepard not being in ME4.  With this ending, Shepard can enjoy a nice retirement with Ash while someone else saves the galaxy this time :D  

Not sure about other LI's, but I think Kaidan's facial expression was a little too sad there Image IPB maybe tone that down a bit?


The way i figure it, all the LIs knew Anderson pretty well.  Kaidan and Ash served under him in ME1 and ME2, Steve and Samantha in ME3.  Garrus, Tali, and Liara also knew Anderson from the first game. 

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Quething wrote...

Ok, I want to take at least one more run at the sigs but I need a hand. This will be a companion set - LIs mainly, but anyone's fair game really, since I think it's equally unfair to Grunt and EDI to lose their mom for petty drama as it is to Ash or Liara to lose their lover - but I need a hand with the specific phrases for most of them.

So far I've got:

Ash: Get it done and go home.
Garrus: Because there's no Vakarian without Shepard.
Jack: ? (She's got a line telling Shep he better not die, IIRC. That would be a good reference)
Kaidan: ?
Liara: For the little blue children.
Miranda: ? (Something about it not being a perfect ending, just perfect for us?)
Sam: There's a white picket fence waiting.
Steve: Because one love to mourn is enough.
Tali: So Tali won't lose her home.


While I really like that Garrus quote. I sort of like a reference to his line about the Collectors. Something like, "You died before and that just pissed you off."

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Seeing Shepard like this.
Image IPB

That is bittersweet, learn from that Bioware. You don't need contrived sacrifices to make something sad.

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i started a new journey this evening. still feels weird. why am i only playing as an infiltrator? ..

just interfaced with the beacon on eden prime. ... now comes the citadel .. i love this part of the game ..

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Liara's facial expression during the reunion scene is in my opinion pretty much perfect. She just like everyone else would definitely have mixed emotions during that moment, and that was captured very well in that scene. I would not recommend any changes to the mod in that regard.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:20 .


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Bourne Endeavor wrote...

Quething wrote...

Ok, I want to take at least one more run at the sigs but I need a hand. This will be a companion set - LIs mainly, but anyone's fair game really, since I think it's equally unfair to Grunt and EDI to lose their mom for petty drama as it is to Ash or Liara to lose their lover - but I need a hand with the specific phrases for most of them.

So far I've got:

Ash: Get it done and go home.
Garrus: Because there's no Vakarian without Shepard.
Jack: ? (She's got a line telling Shep he better not die, IIRC. That would be a good reference)
Kaidan: ?
Liara: For the little blue children.
Miranda: ? (Something about it not being a perfect ending, just perfect for us?)
Sam: There's a white picket fence waiting.
Steve: Because one love to mourn is enough.
Tali: So Tali won't lose her home.


While I really like that Garrus quote. I sort of like a reference to his line about the Collectors. Something like, "You died before and that just pissed you off."


Honestly? The Collectors have killed you once, and all it seems to have done is ****** you off so...

Possible Grunt line:  If you killed the most dangerous thing in the galaxy, that leaves... us.