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[IntoTheDarkness]

such as Aerie-Haer'dalis romance in which the player can acually lose Aerie to Haer'dalis if he made wrong choices.

I understand those who value romance above anything else might find this idea disturbing, but I argue that DAO and DA2's romances in which you automatically succeed as long as you are nice to your RI is a bit unrealistic.

[stephee]

In DA:O if you choose to keep Loghain alive, Alistair leaves and effectively dumps your warden if they are involved with him.
In DA2 if you choose to make a deal with a demon in the fade, you can be dumped by Anders.
Also in DA2, if you don't finish the personal quests, there is a chance your LI could turn on you at the end if you don't go the way they want.
none of these i would say are automatically suceeding.

[n7stormrunner]

as a great sten said. no

[Scott Sion]

I could go for some more arguments in the romances. Story is conflict.

[SpEcIaLRyAn]

If by loosing a romance by choices, its so big like defiling the Urn of Sacred ashes and Leliana says "F U YOu DIE NOW!" (paraphrased) Than technically you lost the romance so this has already been in the game. What do you mean by loosing a romance?

[Scott Sion]

I don't just want breaking points I want more heated arguments. Most of the time romances are rainbows and butterflies the whole way through. I think all they're missing is a good heated argument once in a while to keep things interesting.

[TheJediSaint]

I'd rather have conflict with circumstance than with a rival suitor.

[ladyofpayne]

Yes! Duels betwwen two male LI! It was in Medieval many times.

[n7stormrunner]

... ok maybe if duels happened

[Arppis]

Then people would get all bum-hurt and want to kill the other character who stole their lurver. Or something.

[Kidd]

plnero wrote...

I don't just want breaking points I want more heated arguments. Most of the time romances are rainbows and butterflies the whole way through. I think all they're missing is a good heated argument once in a while to keep things interesting.

Try rivalmances? Sadly don't seem to be returning for DA3 though.

[Scott Sion]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

plnero wrote...

I don't just want breaking points I want more heated arguments. Most of the time romances are rainbows and butterflies the whole way through. I think all they're missing is a good heated argument once in a while to keep things interesting.

Try rivalmances? Sadly don't seem to be returning for DA3 though.

People in healthy relationships can get into arguments too...

Modifié par plnero, 04 novembre 2012 - 09:26 .

[BouncyFrag]

[Milan92]

Dude....in real life when you are nice to a girl who you are in a relationship with then its very natural that she stays with you. If she doesn't then your probably doing something wrong.

How can real life be unrealistic?

[Orian Tabris]

Yes! I would love to see a cat-fight or two! Cat-fights in a fantasy setting, can only be awesome to watch!

[Orian Tabris]

ladyofpayne wrote...

Yes! Duels betwwen two male LI! It was in Medieval many times.

I like your style!

But not your taste!

Modifié par Orian Tabris, 04 novembre 2012 - 01:44 .

[whykikyouwhy]

I would rather see conflict via some bawdy and clever verbal repartee rather than catfights.

[Orian Tabris]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

I would rather see conflict via some bawdy and clever verbal repartee rather than catfights.

And Anders' and Fenris' mage/templar banter wasn't clever verbal repartee?

[whykikyouwhy]

Orian Tabris wrote...

whykikyouwhy wrote...
And Anders' and Fenris' mage/templar banter wasn't clever verbal repartee?

Were they having a romantic conflict?

I didn't say that clever verbal repartee has been nonexistent in Dragon Age. Just that I prefer to see it over hair-pulling.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 04 novembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[Masha Potato]

Some people actually do believe that they were having a romantic conflict

[whykikyouwhy]

Masha Potato wrote...

Some people actually do believe that they were having a romantic conflict

Oh sure. But that didn't involve the PC. Unless we're going to subscribe to the lust conspiracy theory that Hawke is cupid and was baiting them all along - forcing them into close quarters so that they could hash out their differences and meet later in some sweaty embrace. 

[Celtic Latino]

I'd like to see the return of love triangles myself, and the conflicts would be dependent on the characters involved.

For example, you've had characters such as Isabela and Zevran who could care less if your character was seeing someone else while others such as Alistair and Fenris who were pretty much 'keep your hands off my man/woman ****!". Two hotheads known for channeling their anger physically would be likely to engage in a brawl/catfight while characters who are more witty/passive-aggressive would resort to verbal sparring. It would depend on the combination of characters involved.

Example:
Romance 1- A warrior, known for being an extreme hot-head
Romance 2- A witty, smart-ass rogue, known for being a bad-boy/girl
Romance 3- A timid, passive-aggressive mage

Romance 1 & 2 don't like each other from the get-go, so a love triangle would result in the two in fisticuffs, possibly a duel to win the object of their affection's heart
Romance 1 & 3 don't have as much tension, but being a hothead Romance 1 makes some challenges while Romance 3 uses his/her words to keep 1 at bay
Romance 2 & 3 have a sort of friendly rivalry. 3 is jealous but doesn't have the guts to fight for love while 2 could care less whose chosen, so they'd resort to verbal remarks

I'd also love to see the player character have to fight (verbally or possibly dueling) for his/her object's affection with either another party member or an antagonist character, possibly using persuasion checks.

It's been disappointing how triangles have been in past games (one line remarks), even if there's no punches or hair-pulling I'd really like to see love triangles be a driving force that could affect a companion's standing or even life. A companion whose been deeply hurt in the past could leave the party if scorned while another would only help you until the conflict is over, then never speak with you again. It's not to turn the series into a dating sim, but since romance is one of the things players really like in BioWare games, I think it should have a stronger impact (and not just for the positive).

[Sable Rhapsody]

Arppis wrote...

Then people would get all bum-hurt and want to kill the other character who stole their lurver. Or something.

LOL.  Aerie and Haer'Dalis might not be the best example.  NPC romances, especially for a character who is romanceable by the PC, rarely end well.  PCs and their players tend to have easily bruised egos.

As for conflict between two NPCs being simultaneously romanced by the PC, I'm ok with the current amount of inter-party b***chery in DA.  I used to like the idea of pixelated guys fighting over me; nowadays whenever banter like that starts up, I wanna just turn around and hit them with a sign that says "don't."

[Giltspur]

I'd like conflict to be introduced as a way to prevent romances from ending as opposed to adding them as a way to end romances.

Problem: How do you make it the case that you can make the choices that feel right without feeling you need to use a romance faq to keep the romance from mysteriously ending?  In BG2, the romances were kind of like minefields.  

Solution: If you make a "bad" choice or enough of them. you have an argument, which allows you to save the romance.  Now people no longer have to worry about if their romance has silently ended: LI's will make a fuss if something is up.

Who knows what problems there are with that, but it seems like a good idea to me.

[esper]

I am sure there was warnings in both da:o and da2 if you were at risk for a break up.

I don't want to be forced into love triangles, I feel that if I am in a love triangle it means I have purposely lead two persons on so I sure don't want bioware to use more resources on it than some banters. If they began to actually fight I would dump them both on the spots for being idiots and making it physical before even confronting me with it.