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[Seival]

Greylycantrope wrote...

IReuven wrote...
The Diversity is strenght. Not a weakness. Even the evolution proved that... The DNA we were talking about earlier proved that... Also proved that the mistake is not always a bad thing.

THIS. Sevial you know the difference between the facinating difference between a purebreed dog and mutt? Their genetic code is the same but their alleles vary to different degrees. Mutts tend to be healthier and have less genetic ailments as a result. Mutation is also how we adapt and evolve. It is the inherant and sometimes random allelic difference which causes change within an individual or population and  from time to time is highly benificial to the species.

Evolution proved only that someone always becomes superior eventually. Making everyone superior and merged will only increase the speed of evolution process, and make it much less painful for many people, beasts, and plants.

[M Hedonist]

I've seen a lot on these forums, but this is the first time I've witnessed someone being truly misanthropic.
This is freaking otherwordly. I think I'll have to give it a rest and let it sink in for a while...

[Giantdeathrobot]

Damn, son, that's one twisted viewpoint the OP has.

[M Hedonist]

Sion1138 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...


You know what fascism means in reality - violence. And that topic is prohibited, just like the fascism symbols... At least in my country.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the fascism or anything similar. Because there is nothing bad about removing differences without hurting anyone.

Army gives you uniform to remove differences in clothing between soldiers. Is that fascism? It is not. School gives the same education to different people, and that also isn't a fascism. And Synthesis is as harmless as giving new uniform and the same education, but achieves much more.

You are talking about difference as about dangerous things, with some education you would never say that...

What you are saying is one of the reason of holocaust... maybe worst crime created by war when war itself is crime... just because they were different, successful, ritch - they were sent to death.

It is. The fundamental concept, rock bottom, your own self. A man commited mass genocide. Why?

List the questions, answer the questions. Every one of them will beg another.

Until... The last question.

Humanity is evil! Diversity is evil! Life is evil!
I'm going now.

[Applepie_Svk]

Sauruz wrote...

Humanity is evil! Diversity is evil! Life is evil!
I'm going now.

So... Reapers are good :happy: I need some strong stuff, probably going to stole some alcohole...

[Seival]

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...


You know what fascism means in reality - violence. And that topic is prohibited, just like the fascism symbols... At least in my country.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the fascism or anything similar. Because there is nothing bad about removing differences without hurting anyone.

Army gives you uniform to remove differences in clothing between soldiers. Is that fascism? It is not. School gives the same education to different people, and that also isn't a fascism. And Synthesis is as harmless as giving new uniform and the same education, but achieves much more.

You are talking about difference as about dangerous things, with some education you would never say that...

What you are saying is one of the reason of holocaust... maybe worst crime created by war when war itself is crime... just because they were different, successful, ritch - they were sent to death.

The only reason for that murder was a stupid bloodlust, not some thoughts about differences...

...And I think all Destroyers should think about that, by the way.

Modifié par Seival, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:25 .

[Suspire]

Davik Kang wrote...

Suspire wrote...
In other words, you don't understand or want to talk about any of the points I brought up,

Strange because I thought it was you who started the trend of ignoring the points that I brought up... you know, like, you don't write endings at the end of the writing process, and that the success of ME is mainly due to the overall excellence of the writing, which is accepted by most actual fans until the ending...

But let's see...

Suspire wrote...
the games have more inconsistancies than my grandma's skin. So fail anyway...
Like it's any secret that BW games have been getting worse with each release lol...
pure bad decision making combined with rushed deadline...
over ambition and swollen egos...
being more and more out of touch with your fans...
wanting to do something "different" (er, just not different from Deus Ex and the Matrix) just for the sake of being edgy and cool etc. 

I will admit defeat, I really haven't got the energy to argue with the juvenile efforts at rationale listed here.  How about you pop into a generic ending hate thread... you'll get plenty of supprt for saying things like "bad writing LOL".  You'll have a really fun time, I promise.  Go play now.

It's your fault if you can't understand that ME was written as they went along, like how 5 months before the game was out they still didn't know which end to go with, and instead want to hang on to "but teh ending was made beefoar!11" that you pulled out of your ass. Like that would justify how they made a crappy ending. What was your point on that anyway? That the quality of their writing is inconsistant? No duh. Or you implying that because they wrote some things well, that the ending must be brilliant? XD
Most Justin Bieber fans think he's an amazing musician. Your point?

So you can't handle a lol, or the fact that the writing of the ending objectively sucks? U mad bro? Lol, I know that you're just trolling, I've seen you around talking about it But a no true scotsman? Are you even trying? LOL.
This is why I come back to this forum. It's comedy gold.

Modifié par Suspire, 07 novembre 2012 - 01:46 .

[Applepie_Svk]

IReuven wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Humanity is evil! Diversity is evil! Life is evil!
I'm going now.

So... Reapers are good :happy: I need some strong stuff, probably going to stole some alcohole...

It feels sort of like Seven of Nine drunk: "WITH THE BORG WE ASSIMILATED HUNDREDS OF PLANTETS... SAY WHATEVER YOU WISH ABOUT THE BORG BUT... WE DO TRAVEL!" 

Alcohole... yeah... and then let's just let Conrad Verner take care of everything. Strong stuff will work   

Oh, fuuck ! I should get better armor...

[Suspire]

Gods are people defending eugenics? Oh BSN I love you

[Applepie_Svk]

Seival wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Seival wrote...


You know what fascism means in reality - violence. And that topic is prohibited, just like the fascism symbols... At least in my country.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with the fascism or anything similar. Because there is nothing bad about removing differences without hurting anyone.

Army gives you uniform to remove differences in clothing between soldiers. Is that fascism? It is not. School gives the same education to different people, and that also isn't a fascism. And Synthesis is as harmless as giving new uniform and the same education, but achieves much more.

You are talking about difference as about dangerous things, with some education you would never say that...

What you are saying is one of the reason of holocaust... maybe worst crime created by war when war itself is crime... just because they were different, successful, ritch - they were sent to death.

The only reason for that murder was a stupid bloodlust, not some thoughts about differences...

...And I think all Destroyers should think about that, by the way.

You should repeat your history lessons from school, because it´s obvious that you have a holes in your memories - but I will help you:

Jews end up locked and befert because of two things:
1. because they were well known, rich, wide-spread, successful
2. because someone hated them

What happened next was that they start working in work camps and all their goods were seized by gouverment, just with madness of war and someone has created so called final solution ( FYI look for Wannsee / few weeks ago someone told you to not use this phrase just because of this reason) their fate was sealed.

Otherwise back to differences, few years before start of war they run some nasty tests and sterilizations or also so called mercy killing on those who were different, to be accurate for those which were mind ill or have suffered some kind defect.

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:40 .

[Applepie_Svk]

Sion1138 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

Sauruz wrote...

Humanity is evil! Diversity is evil! Life is evil!
I'm going now.

So... Reapers are good :happy: I need some strong stuff, probably going to stole some alcohole...

Nah. That comment was directed at my "misanthrop mode" statement. It's disengaged at this moment. 

It was sarcasm...

[Applepie_Svk]

Sion1138 wrote...

Applepie_Svk wrote...

It was sarcasm...

Man, sarcastic comments about sarcastic comments to other comments. We're boldly going.

Sarcastception...

[Archonsg]

Redbelle wrote...

Seival wrote...

Archonsg wrote...

@Seival

I am pretty sure the person who gave us the Character of James DiGriz would not condone the enforced conformity and acceptance at gunpoint a choice such as oh, Synthesis.

For one to quote an author and use one of his works as the basis of your "proof", isn't it rather pretentious to ignore his OTHER works and claim that the author would support *your* view point, contrary to what hus other works would suggest?

You didn't get it, did you? OP was not used to approve or disprove Synthesis, Control, or Destroy. It was used to show that any good sci-fi story has deep philosophical meaning, and different people might have different points of view on that meaning.

Very few people understood what I meant here. And if the rest can't understand that simple OP, then how can they understand ME3 ending in first place?

Maybe if you opened a new thread and titled it a little more concisely with a view that not everyone know's you really like Harry Harrison. Cause, not everyone has read it and these forums are like sidewalks. Everybody walks through them regardless of the signs saying For Harrison lovers only.

The best part, when someone who familiar with Harrison's work points out that his other well known work, The Stainless Steel Rat series, whose protagonist is as anti-conformists as you can get and that based not just the title header but on his earlier postings, that just dropping Mr Harrison's name and just one book, doesn't give him clairvoyance to make claims on the author's behalf. Since the protagonist in Mr Harrison's stainless steel rat series was also placed in an accept or die situation, and chose not to accept, but through guile and wit survived the ordeal.

The point was, that just dropping Mr Harrison's name and just quoting a single book from a series is pretentious at best, and blatantly disrespectful since the author has passed on, to downright dishonest and despicable since the dead can't refute his claim when anyone who has read his other works can by the same token say the man would be horrified at ME3's ending.

And what does he post in reply, that I don't understand his OP nor the symbolism behind ME3's ending.
Right.