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#26
Black Phantom

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Descy_ wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

OP has inspired me to join a Gold lobby with a Human Soldier/N7 Eagle loadout.


this ashen lady right here, he's the problem with pugs.


all these pugs are scrubs.


i hear ashen uses the geth, they die in like 1 bullet from my mp7.


I see you forgot to post your Kill/Death Ratio, and brag about how MLG you think you are. :lol:

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My mighty Raptor Volus Outsider objects! It's a Platinum loadout!

Modifié par stysiaq, 04 novembre 2012 - 08:16 .


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What are you implying op? That i took a disciple geth infiltrator on gold in order to finish some sort of challenge? That is an outrageous claim :)

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DarthSliver

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i usually dont judge a loadout until after i seen it fail

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DarthSliver wrote...

Yes but for the odd chance i am playing a PUG I always end up with people who dont medigel. In PUG match i can trust my team not to medigel up when they need to in PUG games. Who am i to judge but the experience I had with PUG I mostly only play with friends but there is those offshot chances i play PUG and I always regretted every minute of those games i played because of the facts that are there. I am more of the guy that tells my other friends to give the guys loadout a chance. But too many times have ran into players not using medigel and now the Challenge system has added to that with them not only not using medigel but not using weapons that are effective on Gold with the Character they are using.


Says "Who am I to judge" and then proceeds to judge.

Make like a Rathi Sliver and stick to working with your fellow Slivers instead of the Moggs and Phyrexians.
(This means stop pubbing since you clearly don't enjoy it, or let go of your expectation for others and just enjoy the game.)

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if ur worried about someone's loadout on gold, then get on ur mic and ask why they're using it. if they say they know what they're doing, it's usually true. no mic? bad loadout? that's usually when I'll kick. but I at least give em a chance to give me a reason not to kick them.

Most of the challenges require you to play through almost as you normally would anyway, so I don't usually find it a problem. As long as people put getting extraction as goal 1, challenge points as secondary, I'm cool with it. My biggest pia was this weekend's challenge. I never wanna see another vanguard again. 

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So, public Golds only got worse?


Great.

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DarthSliver

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Mesina2 wrote...

So, public Golds only got worse?


Great.


this is on PS3 too btw

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Today some guy joined our platinum lobby with a Phalanx as his only weapon, he did not even get 25 kills after 11 waves... Ironically he would have gotten more challenge points in that time if he played silver...

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DarthSliver wrote...

Like in the title, the Challenge System is ruining logic and by that i mean Player logic when people are going into Gold and Platinum matches. People are going into matches to get credits but yet they are also going for the challenge points because their loadout speaks it in high volume. I am here to say I am tired of players going into Gold games or higher with poor weapons and obvious weapons that dont work on good. I like the challenge points just like the next person but please be smart about your loadout, we cant get through Gold with people using weapons that obviously dont work on Gold.  

I already have to deal with PUG players not using Medigel when needed I dont need to see through their loadout how flawed their logic is either. Challenge system is beginning to ruin PUG games for the fact that people arent being smart about their loadouts on top of not using their medigel, it doesnt make a good combination. I am ok with people getting Challenge points on Gold just be smart about the loadout/build your coming in with is all I am asking in General. 


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100RenegadePoints wrote...

Today some guy joined our platinum lobby with a Phalanx as his only weapon, he did not even get 25 kills after 11 waves... Ironically he would have gotten more challenge points in that time if he played silver...

What character was the idiot using, there are tons of character that can easily get both assist and kill gold medals no matter the weapon.

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There's not a single gun in this game that flat out does not "work".
Learn to play all of the game and not just the easy-to-use parts.

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I think I fire a weapon once in a while as a fury, though only when I have to. and if I do it's not for the weapon's dps. not all classes are weapon dependent.

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ToaOrka wrote...

There's not a single gun in this game that flat out does not "work".
Learn to play all of the game and not just the easy-to-use parts.


After being Shield Boosted by a Volus my gun flat out does not work half the time :(

At least until I heavy melee.

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I took an Incisor on a Phoenix Vanguard into Ghost/Geth/Gold. Most people would kick me for that before I even got into the lobby. And yet I came in first with 15 revive medals by a margin of something like 50k points. Loadout means little compared to player skill.

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Ashen Earth wrote...

OP has inspired me to join a Gold lobby with a Human Soldier/N7 Eagle loadout.


Eagle is your favorite gun isn't it?

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Locust X is a perfectly viable gold weapon. I've used on my human engies and my Fury to great success, often coming second or topping the scoreboard on successful gold runs.

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Farmtech-Ru wrote...

Cannot comment those players. For myself found out that fastest way to get crap weapon points done is to solo bronze or silver with a krogan vanguard, vorcha soldier or the like - all mobs are mine, while I'm practicaly invincible and depending on how crap my gun is - might have a reegar to dissolve tricky cases. And doing so was not because I felt the need to be good or polite to others - it's just faster, because when armed with crapped gun, kills tend to be grabbed from under me by people with superior firepower anyway.

And aside from it, I recently got blamed for not medigeling on a silver wave 7 vs cerberus. Will be honest - did not medigel, because did NOT expect that other 3 team members who were still standing would fail the wave altogether.


With pugs always assume the worst... I learnt that the hard way

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ToaOrka wrote...

There's not a single gun in this game that flat out does not "work".
Learn to play all of the game and not just the easy-to-use parts.



Yeah I dont think the N7 Fury is meant to use a Typhoon

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DarthSliver wrote...

ToaOrka wrote...

There's not a single gun in this game that flat out does not "work".
Learn to play all of the game and not just the easy-to-use parts.


Yeah I dont think the N7 Fury is meant to use a Typhoon


You said use the N7 Fury with the Typhoon? Let's do this B)

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Pugs are good for you.

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Veritas3489 wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Who are you to say what works on Gold? Some things may not be optimal, but everything can work on Gold for someone that knows what they are doing.


This.


Yep Slim is right. Saw someone using an Avenger on a Human Sentinel in gold today, not optimal but hey I could have cared less, they pulled their own weight rathher well if you ask me.

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LadyNemsis21 wrote...

Veritas3489 wrote...

Slimjim0725 wrote...

Who are you to say what works on Gold? Some things may not be optimal, but everything can work on Gold for someone that knows what they are doing.


This.


Yep Slim is right. Saw someone using an Avenger on a Human Sentinel in gold today, not optimal but hey I could have cared less, they pulled their own weight rathher well if you ask me.


Human sentinel is a caster anyway, so thats actually close to optimal. Could be better with an acolytle I reckon.

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On a more serious note, it is possible to use any weapon on any kit and do well. It simply involves changing up your playstyle. Is an N7 Fury with a Typhoon gold-viable? It all depends on if you can pull it off.

Something to consider as well is that PUGs are often the testing ground for people trying out new stuff. I know I do it.

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Hey man, I wish I had all the UR guns at level V I really do. Sadly I don't. I know how irritating it can be for people to have lackluster firepower and all from my experiences on Silver but you need to make money to get better gear. Which reminds me I need to complain about my 250k credits that went missing this week. Lack of consumables OTOH... Yeah that can go die in a fire.