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[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Nice to see Emzamination is still her usual judgemental ,extremist and possibly psychotic self.

<3 

When I first met her, she was extremist in favor of the templars. Maybe she just enjoys creeping everyone out?

Well boys sounds like we got ourselves a troll here.

That was actually my first instinct regarding her. Not that I cared. It was summer and I needed something to do, so I argued with her anyway.

Edit: I don't think I ever got around to thanking you.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 04 novembre 2012 - 10:46 .

[Emzamination]

^ Au don't worry bout it, I get the "troll" thing alot.I blame it on all the group think and mini factions on board.

[BlueMagitek]

I think you have your view of Tevinter wrong. It does not really seem to be a mage free place. It's an oligarchy of mages known as magisters. The last thing one wants is more competition.

[Shadow Fox]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Nice to see Emzamination is still her usual judgemental ,extremist and possibly psychotic self.

<3 

When I first met her, she was extremist in favor of the templars. Maybe she just enjoys creeping everyone out?

Well boys sounds like we got ourselves a troll here.

That was actually my first instinct regarding her. Not that I cared. It was summer and I needed something to do, so I argued with her anyway.

Edit: I don't think I ever got around to thanking you.

For what?

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...


That was actually my first instinct regarding her. Not that I cared. It was summer and I needed something to do, so I argued with her anyway.

Edit: I don't think I ever got around to thanking you.

For what?

I meant Emzamination. She stopped me from going stir-crazy.

[Shadow Fox]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Arcane Warrior Mage Hawke wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...


That was actually my first instinct regarding her. Not that I cared. It was summer and I needed something to do, so I argued with her anyway.

Edit: I don't think I ever got around to thanking you.

For what?

I meant Emzamination. She stopped me from going stir-crazy.

Oh...

[Josielyn]

JimTasty wrote...

I wonder if some Tevinter mages or any high archons would "sell" the mages back into the custody for the profit so they could fund their war against the Qunari

I can TOTALLY see them doing this, but I think it would be less risky for them to hold the young mages for ransom and ask their families to pay up, or see them sent back to Templar custody, or receive a well preserved body part by courier.

[DarthLaxian]

well, I think you got this all wrong - why?

well, because tevinter is a nation under siege (quunari, white chantry and other greater nations) and they are only as strong as much men-power and as much magic (and therefore spellcasters) they have at their command, so they would accept mages gracefully IMHO, they just would not make them instant magisters (or archons), they would have them pull their weight (fight the quunari, keep abominations in check (if the tevinter templars can't - also i doubt that they are this useless, they just can't keep magisters in check because most of them are bloodmages!) etc.)

greetings LAX

[esper]

Emzamination wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Fereldans are fiercely opposed to slavery, as are elves, which probably make up at least one third of all mages, never mind escaped apostates. The ones who do escape from the Circle, little the number may also oppose slavery on a personal basis. Furthermore, Templars are actually adept at hunting mages, we only hear of cases where they aren't that successful. Many would be executed or returned to the Circle before they reach the Imperium, or wherever they want to be.

Templars aren't adept at hunting mages. Mages are just really stupid.Take Da2 for example-- Both starkhaven and kirkwall had large amounts of phylacteries destroyed allowing mages to run free without pursuit, but what did they do? Each and every one of them with the exception of a few ran straight to their familys and were apprehended once again.

The mages just have no stomach for survival.If I was a mage who had just escaped the circle, the first order of business would be getting on to a ship and far out to sea.I'm not saying the templars can't requisition their own ship for pursuit but that's pretty much a death sentence on their end seeing as they can't get up close to use their nullifying powers and the mage could easily sink their ship with a conjured tempest or typhoon.

To be fair escpaing mages have no money. Execpt Emilie (who got them from his mother) and who was an idiot.  (I do wonder what I let loose on the world by telling him to get the **** out of Kirkwall). 
It is not easy to get on a ship with no money, just look what happen to Fenryel and Trask's daughter when they tried.
Grace and the other survived in the wilderness of the Free Marches which they barely could, so they didn't run home to their family.
And if you were robbed from you family as a little child I think that it is very natural to want to see them again. I know I would worry for them, ensure they was okay and tell them that I was alive and relatively well.

Anyway, going to Tevinter is not necessaryly smart unless you have such a special talent that you can get a teacher there. Tevinters magisters don't like competetion, and Tevinters wouldn't mind to enslave mages too, you know.

[DarthLaxian]

well i could argue with you, that being robbed of your family at young age might make you curious, but if they did not visit you all these years, then you certainly would (IMHO) not worry for them - and even if you would - and you would leave them alone (if you worry, you would IMHO do that, because you do not want them involved with templars and the mighty chantry that would both ruin your parents life without much of a second thought!)

so yes, mages could probably run, if they were smart, didn't keep cats (sorry, had to bring that up, because anders was known as a runner!) and would not do the most stupid things (going to ones family, hiding out nearby) etc.

greetings LAX

[Emzamination]

esper wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Fereldans are fiercely opposed to slavery, as are elves, which probably make up at least one third of all mages, never mind escaped apostates. The ones who do escape from the Circle, little the number may also oppose slavery on a personal basis. Furthermore, Templars are actually adept at hunting mages, we only hear of cases where they aren't that successful. Many would be executed or returned to the Circle before they reach the Imperium, or wherever they want to be.

Templars aren't adept at hunting mages. Mages are just really stupid.Take Da2 for example-- Both starkhaven and kirkwall had large amounts of phylacteries destroyed allowing mages to run free without pursuit, but what did they do? Each and every one of them with the exception of a few ran straight to their familys and were apprehended once again.

The mages just have no stomach for survival.If I was a mage who had just escaped the circle, the first order of business would be getting on to a ship and far out to sea.I'm not saying the templars can't requisition their own ship for pursuit but that's pretty much a death sentence on their end seeing as they can't get up close to use their nullifying powers and the mage could easily sink their ship with a conjured tempest or typhoon.

To be fair escpaing mages have no money. Execpt Emilie (who got them from his mother) and who was an idiot.  (I do wonder what I let loose on the world by telling him to get the **** out of Kirkwall). 
It is not easy to get on a ship with no money, just look what happen to Fenryel and Trask's daughter when they tried.
Grace and the other survived in the wilderness of the Free Marches which they barely could, so they didn't run home to their family.
And if you were robbed from you family as a little child I think that it is very natural to want to see them again. I know I would worry for them, ensure they was okay and tell them that I was alive and relatively well.

Anyway, going to Tevinter is not necessaryly smart unless you have such a special talent that you can get a teacher there. Tevinters magisters don't like competetion, and Tevinters wouldn't mind to enslave mages too, you know.

When you have the power of the elements flowing at your finger tips, you don't need money do anything.One mage contains enough power to bring down a whole city all on her own, you really think boarding a boat is going to present a challenge.

Please see this post, as I've already given a response to all of what you've written.

[esper]

Emzamination wrote...

esper wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Fereldans are fiercely opposed to slavery, as are elves, which probably make up at least one third of all mages, never mind escaped apostates. The ones who do escape from the Circle, little the number may also oppose slavery on a personal basis. Furthermore, Templars are actually adept at hunting mages, we only hear of cases where they aren't that successful. Many would be executed or returned to the Circle before they reach the Imperium, or wherever they want to be.

Templars aren't adept at hunting mages. Mages are just really stupid.Take Da2 for example-- Both starkhaven and kirkwall had large amounts of phylacteries destroyed allowing mages to run free without pursuit, but what did they do? Each and every one of them with the exception of a few ran straight to their familys and were apprehended once again.

The mages just have no stomach for survival.If I was a mage who had just escaped the circle, the first order of business would be getting on to a ship and far out to sea.I'm not saying the templars can't requisition their own ship for pursuit but that's pretty much a death sentence on their end seeing as they can't get up close to use their nullifying powers and the mage could easily sink their ship with a conjured tempest or typhoon.

To be fair escpaing mages have no money. Execpt Emilie (who got them from his mother) and who was an idiot.  (I do wonder what I let loose on the world by telling him to get the **** out of Kirkwall). 
It is not easy to get on a ship with no money, just look what happen to Fenryel and Trask's daughter when they tried.
Grace and the other survived in the wilderness of the Free Marches which they barely could, so they didn't run home to their family.
And if you were robbed from you family as a little child I think that it is very natural to want to see them again. I know I would worry for them, ensure they was okay and tell them that I was alive and relatively well.

Anyway, going to Tevinter is not necessaryly smart unless you have such a special talent that you can get a teacher there. Tevinters magisters don't like competetion, and Tevinters wouldn't mind to enslave mages too, you know.

When you have the power of the elements flowing at your finger tips, you don't need money do anything.One mage contains enough power to bring down a whole city all on her own, you really think boarding a boat is going to present a challenge.

Please see this post, as I've already given a response to all of what you've written.

Mages don't held the power to bring down a whole city. If they did the circle wouldn't exist, templar cancelling power or not. Unless of course you are advocating actively becoming aborminations to prevent capture (and even then you need to make a deal with a strong demon/spirit to get on city chrusing level. Not even Connor's demon was city chrusing it needed to raise an army)

You need money or you get sold as a slave to Tevinter, like Fenryel and I think she was named Oliva. You need money to get on a ship. If you start threathning with magic chances are the sailors will just turn you over to the templars or slit your troath when your asleep and throw you overboard. Ship sailing in Thedas is not a cruise and magic is not all powerfull, casting it tires you, casting requires your hands (apperently) and going against to many will cause you to be overpowered whereever it is templars or not.

Going against a full ship of sailors (many of whom are like rouge-class fighters) and hope they wouldn't turn on me on ship is likely when we are on the sea is idiotic (and add that to the fact that Circle mages properly can't swim since they don't have the option to be trained in swimning). Much better would it be if you could accuire money to buy you safe passage and pretend to be ordinary, but that can be hard to do when you own nothing more than your clothes.

[esper]

DarthLaxian wrote...

well i could argue with you, that being robbed of your family at young age might make you curious, but if they did not visit you all these years, then you certainly would (IMHO) not worry for them - and even if you would - and you would leave them alone (if you worry, you would IMHO do that, because you do not want them involved with templars and the mighty chantry that would both ruin your parents life without much of a second thought!)

so yes, mages could probably run, if they were smart, didn't keep cats (sorry, had to bring that up, because anders was known as a runner!) and would not do the most stupid things (going to ones family, hiding out nearby) etc.

greetings LAX

Well, they aren't exactly allowed to visit unless they happens to be nobles with influence. But we can agree it is not the smartest move, but from a human stand point I can understand it.

(I would properly skip the whole family thing the first couple of years, untill I knew that I had shaken the pursurers off)

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Off-Topic, I'd just like to congratulate Emzamination on her new signature.