Aller au contenu

Photo

Summoning demons


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
29 réponses à ce sujet

#1
Zeta42

Zeta42
  • Members
  • 115 messages
You know what irritates me in Dragon Age games? That when you choose Blood Mage specialization, you can't summon any demons. Every other blood mage in the games can do that. Why can't we, players?
Will we be able to summon demons in DA3? Any information?

#2
ledod

ledod
  • Members
  • 289 messages
Perhaps those that summon demons fall too far at the end of the psycho spectrum to fit within the context of the first two DA game. Maybe you will get your wish in the next installment. As many have pointed out, Blood Magic is not evil, but has the potential to wreak havoc on innocents.

In other words, not all blood mages are evil, nor do all blood mages summon demons. Maybe. I am usually wrong on these boards, though lol

#3
DragonAgeLegend

DragonAgeLegend
  • Members
  • 1 065 messages
ledod has a point. When you choose the specialization I don't think you have full capacity of power that the evil blood mages have. I think only the completely corrupted people that are basically demons themselves can summon them.

#4
MisterJB

MisterJB
  • Members
  • 15 584 messages
The protagonist knows better?

#5
Zeta42

Zeta42
  • Members
  • 115 messages
Well, Merrill summoned a demon, didn't she? She wasn't evil, just foolish. Of course, I don't expect summoning demons like that big guy, he was too cunning and dangerous and likely wouldn't let anyone use him as a pawn in battle. Maybe a rage demon, or animating skeletons... But if they let us summon pride demons on high levels, I'll be ecstatic.

#6
hexaligned

hexaligned
  • Members
  • 3 166 messages
I'm not a huge lore guy, but I'm pretty sure when you summon a skelli in DAO, you are actually summoning a demon to animate the bones. They took out all summoning in DA2, hopefully they reverse that for DAI.

#7
hitenchi

hitenchi
  • Members
  • 52 messages

relhart wrote...

I'm not a huge lore guy, but I'm pretty sure when you summon a skelli in DAO, you are actually summoning a demon to animate the bones. They took out all summoning in DA2, hopefully they reverse that for DAI.


No i think it is just magically animated

#8
Plaintiff

Plaintiff
  • Members
  • 6 998 messages
It would be pretty cool to be able to summon a demon in combat, maybe as a spell in the Blood Mage specialization, similar to Raise Dead, or the Summon abilities for Rangers in DA:O.

#9
MewtwoJosh

MewtwoJosh
  • Members
  • 136 messages
Summon Rage Demon,Summon Sloth Demon ect would be cool.

#10
MichaelStuart

MichaelStuart
  • Members
  • 2 251 messages
I support summoning lesser demons

#11
Potato Cat

Potato Cat
  • Members
  • 7 784 messages
I'd like a system similar to DA2's companion/specialisation skill trees. Similar to how Merrill's was a mix of blood magic and the keeper specialisations, I'd like the DA3 skill trees to have various branches like the blood magic having a damage branch, a summoning branch, and maybe even a healing branch.

EDIT
Oh and only minor demons, I think desire and pride would definitely be too dangerous. Maybe even sloth too.

Modifié par Elfman, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:06 .


#12
Masha Potato

Masha Potato
  • Members
  • 957 messages
Conjuration 5ever

#13
Fast Jimmy

Fast Jimmy
  • Members
  • 17 939 messages

hitenchi wrote...

relhart wrote...

I'm not a huge lore guy, but I'm pretty sure when you summon a skelli in DAO, you are actually summoning a demon to animate the bones. They took out all summoning in DA2, hopefully they reverse that for DAI.


No i think it is just magically animated


Nope. Skeletons are possessed by demons.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Skeletons

#14
schalafi

schalafi
  • Members
  • 1 167 messages

MewtwoJosh wrote...

Summon Rage Demon,Summon Sloth Demon ect would be cool.


Rage Demons are easy to kill, just have a Mage hit one with a Cone of Cold and they're gone. Sloth Demons, Pride Demons are stronger and harder to kill, but the creatures I hated the most were the Shades.

I find playing a Mage is fun, but I don't use Blood Magic, and I wouldn't use it to summon a Demon.  I get along just fine without it.

Modifié par schalafi, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:13 .


#15
Vit246

Vit246
  • Members
  • 1 467 messages
Blood magic is not necessarily intrinsic to summoning demons and vice versa. Anyway, I really want to summon all types of demons, except pride demons. Those ones are suppose to be too powerful to control.

#16
Guest_krul2k_*

Guest_krul2k_*
  • Guests
so u guys want a warlock o_0

#17
Riverdaleswhiteflash

Riverdaleswhiteflash
  • Members
  • 7 914 messages

MisterJB wrote...

The protagonist knows better?


I would like the option to play one who doesn't. I probably wouldn't play such a character often, but I'd do so at least once.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 08 novembre 2012 - 08:03 .


#18
Annihilator27

Annihilator27
  • Members
  • 6 653 messages

krul2k wrote...

so u guys want a warlock o_0


I think that would make me switch from Rogue lol.

#19
Herr Uhl

Herr Uhl
  • Members
  • 13 465 messages

Fast Jimmy wrote...

hitenchi wrote...

relhart wrote...

I'm not a huge lore guy, but I'm pretty sure when you summon a skelli in DAO, you are actually summoning a demon to animate the bones. They took out all summoning in DA2, hopefully they reverse that for DAI.


No i think it is just magically animated


Nope. Skeletons are possessed by demons.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Skeletons


The ones you fight, yes. The ones you animate are puppets.

#20
Riverdaleswhiteflash

Riverdaleswhiteflash
  • Members
  • 7 914 messages

Herr Uhl wrote...

Fast Jimmy wrote...


Nope. Skeletons are possessed by demons.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Skeletons


The ones you fight, yes. The ones you animate are puppets.


I think they might be possessed, or they might be puppets, though more likely the former. The possessors would probably be whatever ordinary spirits could be talked into doing such a thing, rather than demons, but I think this would require a spirit. (The spell belongs to the Spirit spells, which are stated in the Codex to give their praciticioners the power to control spirits. I think that's probably what happens here.)

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:30 .


#21
ledod

ledod
  • Members
  • 289 messages

Zeta42 wrote...

Well, Merrill summoned a demon, didn't she? She wasn't evil, just foolish. Of course, I don't expect summoning demons like that big guy, he was too cunning and dangerous and likely wouldn't let anyone use him as a pawn in battle. Maybe a rage demon, or animating skeletons... But if they let us summon pride demons on high levels, I'll be ecstatic.


You say she is 'foolish,' I say that she is a complete moron. Merrill is an awful, reckless person.

Modifié par ledod, 08 novembre 2012 - 09:32 .


#22
Guest_Hanz54321_*

Guest_Hanz54321_*
  • Guests
I've suggested "Demonologist" as a specialization. I'd never play it, but it would allow the player to do what many mages can do in game.

As to the matter of, "Why can't Bloodmages do it if you choose Bloodmage?": the answer is because it is a seperate specialization. Niall makes that clear in Origins when he states, "He (Uldred) must have dabbled in demonlogy AS WELL."

#23
Herr Uhl

Herr Uhl
  • Members
  • 13 465 messages

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

The ones you fight, yes. The ones you animate are puppets.


I think they might be possessed, or they might be puppets, though more likely the former. The possessors would probably be whatever ordinary spirits could be talked into doing such a thing, rather than demons, but I think this would require a spirit. (The spell belongs to the Spirit spells, which are stated in the Codex to give their praciticioners the power to control spirits. I think that's probably what happens here.)


The description of the spell mentions them as "puppets of the caster".

The caster summons a skeleton minion from the corpse of a fallen enemy to fight alongside the party for a short time, although, as a puppet of the caster, it will not use any talents or spells without specific instruction.


That is my main reason for saying this. Secondly, from a lore standpoint, I have trouble buying that the templars sanctions the teaching of binding spirits to corpses.

#24
flub3

flub3
  • Members
  • 98 messages
I support this idea. Being able to summon a demon would be awesome.

#25
Scott Sion

Scott Sion
  • Members
  • 913 messages
I don't usually use Blood Magic, but if they give the player the ability to summon demons I might give it a spin.