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Yate

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ME2:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot
- final decision has few consequences
- two possible endings, one of which is actually a game over
- ends with a blatant sequel hook
- contains a boring boss fight
- no implications of the ending are explained or shown
- no memorable dialogue
- a lot of fans didn't like it

ME3:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot
- final decision has major consequences
- four possible endings, one of which is actually a game over
- gives a sense of closure
- no boss fight
- various implications of the ending are shown
- some of the best dialogue and voice acting in the game
- a lot of fans don't like it

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Mr.House

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Both ME2 and ME3 had bad endings imo, only ME had a good ending in the series.

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Mcfly616

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Well, if the title of this thread is implying that ME3s ending is better than ME2s.... Then I agree with you OP.


But I like both either way

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If you feel that way I don't have a problem with it but part 2 didn't have a massive backlash against it's ending. 3 did. So I doubt you'll have many people agree with you.

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lol

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Yate wrote...

ME3:

- some of the best dialogue and voice acting in the game

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Modifié par Cthulhu42, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:11 .


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When i finished ME2, i had sweaty palms and a tingly feeling in my stomach because of the overload of epicness.
When i finished ME3, .........i had only one thought in my mind.........."lol wat" ?

With the EC, things got much better, but it "only" raised a terrible ending to an acceptable one.

Modifié par kratos0294, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:13 .


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ME2: Second part in a trilogy
ME3: Ending of a trilogy.


That is all.

ME2:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot Not really.
- final decision has few consequences Thanks to the failure that is ME3.
- two possible endings, one of which is actually a game over Two possible endings with a great deal of variables. Also, as the second out of three games of a trilogy, can't have wildy different endings.
- ends with a blatant sequel hook Well, colour me surprised, the second part of a trilogy actually has a sequel hook. Such a new and never done before concept...
- contains a boring boss fight Define "boring".
- no implications of the ending are explained or shown Which was ME3's job, at which it horribly failed. Again.
- no memorable dialogue Mwahahaha. Oh wait, you're serious, let me laugh even harder. Bwahahahahahahahaha.
- a lot of fans didn't like it Aside from the fact that I can't recall many people who didn't like, I personally found it more than adequate.

ME3:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot
- final decision has major consequences Define "major" and "consequences".
- four possible endings, one of which is actually a game over Which all look oddly enough the same, with a different voiceover and colour. Wow, such variety.
- gives a sense of closure I take it you don't know the meaning of the word "closure". I'm gonna let that slide.
- no boss fight
- various implications of the ending are shown
- some of the best dialogue and voice acting in the game If that's what you call "good" I'd hate to see what you define as "bad"
- a lot of fans don't like it


Modifié par Zardoc, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:22 .


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Binary_Helix 1

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TROLL ALERT.

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Mr.House wrote...

Both ME2 and ME3 had bad endings imo, only ME had a good ending in the series.


Saying one is better than the other is like saying "The **** I look yesterday is better than the one I took this morning", they're both ****, at the end of the day, so who cares?

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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...
TROLL ALERT.

'tis indeed gracious of a troll to warn us all of his/her arrival.

Oh btw so I can be considered not a troll (irony is this will bait many a troll...)

ME3 ending > all.  Hence I agree w thread title.

:D

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Yate wrote...

ME3:

- gives a sense of closure

In the same way that a bullet in the head gives closure, yes.

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When I finished ME2, I wasted no time starting a new game.
When I finished ME3, I was just like "..................wut"

tl'dr; ME3's ending suuuckkedd.

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[quote]Yate wrote...

ME2:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot[/quote]
In a way, I actually agree. ME2 had a terrible main story, for the most part, and whilst it was obvious that they were leading up to a big-reveal in the Collector Base, the fact that it was just this human reaper thing suspended over a pit, wasn't inspiring. 
[quote]- final decision has few consequences[/quote]
Because of ME3. 
[quote]- two possible endings, one of which is actually a game over[/quote]
Similar to ME3 then. There are four endings, but with a few different states the galaxy can be in. The second part of a trilogy, so not exactly that bad. 
[quote]- ends with a blatant sequel hook[/quote]
There was always going to be a sequel, so this doesn't matter. I don't see what's bad about sequel hooks either. ME2 was good, the first thing I thought of when finishing it was what the next part was going to be like. 
[quote]- contains a boring boss fight[/quote]
Subjective, I thought it was alright, despite the moronic context. 
[quote]- no implications of the ending are explained or shown[/quote]
Because of ME3. 
[quote]- no memorable dialogue[/quote]
I dunno about that. 
[quote]- a lot of fans didn't like it[/quote]
And a lot of fans did. 

[quote]ME3:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot[/quote]
Well that's obvious. 
[quote]- final decision has major consequences[/quote]
That we don't see. Having consequences does not inherently make it good. Choosing Anderson over Udina has consequences, but they matter absolutely jack-sh*t. 
[quote]- gives a sense of closure[/quote]
Not to me. 
[quote]- no boss fight[/quote]
Unfortunately. 
[quote]- various implications of the ending are shown[/quote]
Pretty much all of them bad. 
[quote]- some of the best dialogue and voice acting in the game[/quote]
Shepard's speech for refuse is pretty good, but I don't remember anything else particularly memorable. It also has some of the absolute worst. 
[quote]- a lot of fans don't like it
[/quote]
That's a given.

I'd like to see the actual reasoning behind a lot of this, as opposed to just a list of bullet-points. The implications aren't exactly clear. For example, there not being a boss fight; good or bad? 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:24 .


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kratos0294 wrote...

When i finished ME2, i had sweaty palms and a tingly feeling in my stomach because of the overload of epicness.
When i finished ME3, .........i had only one thought in my mind.........."lol wat" ?

With the EC, things got much better, but it "only" raised a terrible ending to an acceptable one.


Agreed.

My heart was racing throughout the ME2 ending and at the end I had the f*ck yeah!! moment and felt victorious and wanted to replay it a million times.

Throughout the ME3 ending I felt like I had been beaten senseless by bad writing and "WTF IS GOING ON" moments and had no motivation whatsoever to replay the game.

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Davik Kang wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...
TROLL ALERT.

'tis indeed gracious of a troll to warn us all of his/her arrival.

Oh btw so I can be considered not a troll (irony is this will bait many a troll...)

ME3 ending > all.  Hence I agree w thread title.

:D


I used to associate the name Davik Kang with cool. I stopped since you became a regular user.

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ME2 Coherent story, best endgame ever, perfectly reflects on yuor qualities as squadleader
ME3 nonsense plotwist, generic endgame minus bossfight, your squadmates desert you no matter what.

Its all a matter of context.

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Yate wrote...

ME2:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot
- final decision has few consequences
- two possible endings, one of which is actually a game over
- ends with a blatant sequel hook
- contains a boring boss fight
- no implications of the ending are explained or shown --> this isn't necessary when you have a sequel game about to come out
- no memorable dialogue --> i disagree
- a lot of fans didn't like it

ME3:

- unexpected twist ending that shatters our concept of the plot
- final decision has major consequences
- four possible endings, one of which is actually a game over
- gives a sense of closure --> i *really* disagree
- no boss fight
- various implications of the ending are shown
- some of the best dialogue and voice acting in the game
- a lot of fans don't like it



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The Night Mammoth

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Davik Kang wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...
TROLL ALERT.

'tis indeed gracious of a troll to warn us all of his/her arrival.

Oh btw so I can be considered not a troll (irony is this will bait many a troll...)

ME3 ending > all.  Hence I agree w thread title.

:D


Aha, that's a good joke, meeher Kang. 

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don't recall ME2 being a end to a trilogy , hence the 2 but ok

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...
TROLL ALERT.

'tis indeed gracious of a troll to warn us all of his/her arrival.

Oh btw so I can be considered not a troll (irony is this will bait many a troll...)

ME3 ending > all.  Hence I agree w thread title.

:D


Aha, that's a good joke, meeher Kang. 



The laugh is on him because that troll comment (although no doubt true) was more of an inside joke between me and the OP.

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This thread should serve as evidence for the future that Yate is a massive troll that should not be taken seriously.

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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...
I used to associate the name Davik Kang with cool. I stopped since you became a regular user. 

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Davik Kang just popped in to say that Davik Kang doesn't give a ****.

Modifié par Davik Kang, 05 novembre 2012 - 10:31 .


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Yate wrote...


ME3:


- final decision has major consequences


I played it back in March, there was nothing major, the choice in ME2 gave me more impact.

- four possible endings, one of which is actually a game over


Three endings that are all the same, except for the game over one(Which is a possible ending in ME2)


- gives a sense of closure
- no boss fight

Both of which are bad.

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me2 didn't end the series