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[The Night Mammoth]

Now I really want to know who David Kang is.

It might answer the question of why the poster sharing this name is so wrapped up in a misplaced sense of self-importance.

[Mcfly616]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Grubas wrote...

ME2 Coherent story, best endgame ever, perfectly reflects on yuor qualities as squadleader
ME3 nonsense plotwist, generic endgame minus bossfight, your squadmates desert you no matter what.

Its all a matter of context.

ME2 a coherent story? Sure....maybe. Best Endgame ever???! Baaaaahahahahaha. Don't get me wrong, I like assigning my squad to complete certain tasks throughout the Suicide Mission, but if anything its endgame was corny and generic as hell.

Actually ME3's plotwist makes sense. And the way it ends, is anything but generic.


You're right about one thing though: It's all a matter of context.

Maybe I´m too cynic, but screwing up a story with a shocking swerve in the last moment  trying to make it memorable (and succeeding in the bad way) it´s actually quite generic.

Generic: general - common - universal.

Hmm I'd say endings like ME2's are a lot more "common". And "generally" used in nearly every action game. Compared to ME3's ending, which is rather different than your everyday videogame ending. i.e. its not generic

[Yate]

most common rebuttal seems to be "but it's the end of the series!"

which of course is just a different way of saying "FAILED TO LIVE UP TO EXPECTATIONS"

WHICH DOES NOT MEAN BAD

[Yate]

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

[jstme]

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

[BonFire5]

Is it okay to use Dues Ex Machina in the final minutes when it's not a Stanley Kubrick mind screw or "Movie" movie?

[Davik Kang]

The Night Mammoth wrote...
Now I really want to know who David Kang is. 

It might answer the question of why the poster sharing this name is so wrapped up in a misplaced sense of self-importance.

Dude, why feed my ego with your continual responses?  Clearly, me posting my opinion and then having various people trash me for it proves how much of an ego I have.

You're trying to be too smart.  Remember the rulebook of hate, and follow the more refined and poignant example set by this promising young adept :

Dark_Caduceus wrote...
You smell like ****.

[Nerevar-as]

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

[Yate]

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

no, you're a dumb****

[BonFire5]

Yate wrote...

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

no, you're a dumb****

Heheheheheh.

[Yate]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

do you really want to go there?

do you really want to turn this into a moral/philosophical debate?

[Yate]

and I'm talking about the EC endings obviously

[Mcfly616]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

actually its always been implied (since ME1) that the Reapers were working towards Synthesis (for one reason or another). You should chat with Saren.

[jstme]

Yate wrote...

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

no, you're a dumb****

That also is as a valid argument as the statement in your title. See, both are wrong.
A) ME3 ending does not deserve 5th place out of 10 worse endings. It deserve first.
I am awesome! 

[BonFire5]

Extended Cut was better. I finally got to see the fruits of my labour of killing TIM (for no reason) and taking his place as the controller of the Reapers.

I have to listen to the Catalyst on mute mostly because the child sucks at acting, but they are probably better than I am.

And if I try thinking of synthesis as very overpowered biotic blasts ra**ing the galaxy, I can (sort of) imagine it isn't space magic.

[Nerevar-as]

Yate wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

do you really want to go there?

do you really want to turn this into a moral/philosophical debate?

No need. Just basic science and thinking of all the changes synthesis must do to every single living (organic and freaking machines) to work. Space magic falls very short of it.

[The Night Mammoth]

[quote]Davik Kang wrote...

[quote]The Night Mammoth wrote...
Now I really want to know who David Kang is. 

It might answer the question of why the poster sharing this name is so wrapped up in a misplaced sense of self-importance. [/quote]
Dude, why feed my ego with your continual responses?  Clearly, me posting my opinion and then having various people trash me for it proves how much of an ego I have.[/quote]

I see. Various. Yes. 

I think there was maybe one person, maximum, who did this... eh... 'trashing'. 

[quote]You're trying to be too smart.  Remember the rulebook of hate, and follow the more refined and poignant example set by this promising young adept :

[quote]Dark_Caduceus wrote...
You smell like ****.[/quote]
[/quote][/quote]

No seriously, I'm interested in who this David Kang is. 

[Mcfly616]

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

Agreed on the Original Endings. They were atrocious.

But the Extended Cut does not apply to your statement

[KingZayd]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

actually its always been implied (since ME1) that the Reapers were working towards Synthesis (for one reason or another). You should chat with Saren.

Which is why the Starchild tried to have the Crucible plans (that would make synthesis work) eradicated? Perhaps you should have a chat with the Starchild?

Saren thought the "synthesis" was a reward for good service, not part of the Reapers' plans.

Modifié par KingZayd, 05 novembre 2012 - 11:28 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

actually its always been implied (since ME1) that the Reapers were working towards Synthesis (for one reason or another). You should chat with Saren.

We had coffee yersterday, he told me some interesting stuff, but his views on synthesis weren't the what synthesis turns out to be in the end. 

So... no... they weren't trying all along. 

And if they were, purposefully enslaving the Geth and persuading them to turn against organics seems counter intuitive. 

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 05 novembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[Yate]

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

jstme wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Well, it was bad.
Universally and objectively.
The proof is that they had to make an extended cut.

no, you're a dumb****

That also is as a valid argument as the statement in your title. See, both are wrong.
A) ME3 ending does not deserve 5th place out of 10 worse endings. It deserve first.
I am awesome! 

troll another thread

[Yate]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

do you really want to go there?

do you really want to turn this into a moral/philosophical debate?

No need. Just basic science and thinking of all the changes synthesis must do to every single living (organic and freaking machines) to work. Space magic falls very short of it.

any sufficently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic

after all you've seen in the games, everything Reaper tech is capable of, you're going to draw your suspension of disbelief at synthesis?

ok...

[Yate]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

actually its always been implied (since ME1) that the Reapers were working towards Synthesis (for one reason or another). You should chat with Saren.

We had coffee yersterday, he told me some interesting stuff, but his views on synthesis weren't the what synthesis turns out to be in the end. 

So... no... they weren't.

And if they were, purposefully enslaving the Geth and persuading them to turn against organics doesn't fit the bill. 

actually they were

sure he was indoctrinated

but he pretty much just told you everything about synthesis

[Nerevar-as]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Yate wrote...

IT'S OK TO NOT LIKE ME3'S ENDING

IT'S NOT OK TO PRETEND THAT ME3'S ENDING WAS UNIVERSALLY OBJECTIVELY BAD

Synthesis is objectively bad. I had never thought you could have so much nonsense in so little time.

actually its always been implied (since ME1) that the Reapers were working towards Synthesis (for one reason or another). You should chat with Saren.

I chatted with Saren. It was clear Sovie gave him a goal he´d believe to get his help without making him a full thrall.

But that´s not the issue. Hell, I took Sarif´s ending in Human Revolution. It´s a green energy wave changing in an instant the metabolic processes, genetics, and so on of living beings of every kind (Volus metabolism is based on ammonia, for ****** sake!), and including all kind of AIs (and I think EDI and geth are quite different). That´s not Space Magic, is a GOD level miracle. I just don´t have enough suspense of disbelief to buy that. I wouldn´t on Star Wars or Star Trek, and ME leaned much more than them to having things making sense besides looking cool (well, ME1 did anyway).