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#126
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So what happens if someone who doesn't have From Ashes, and has therefor never even talked to Javik, picks destroy?

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Xilizhra wrote...

Control and Synthesis ends with the Reaper fleet entirely intact. How do you guarantee that they'll never return to old tricks?

The Catalyst was the one performing all of those old tricks. In Control, I replace it. In Synthesis, the Reapers are severed from the Catalyst and gain free will.

CosmicGnosis, we've had this
discussion. All the endings are stupid. Just use a frickin' random
number generator or something.

I disagree. The endings aren't stupid, just poorly set up. They're actually fairly intelligent in some areas.

Wat.

#128
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The existence of the catalyst validates Javik, and that's not good.

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Just because two people end up making the same decision, it doesn't mean that one validated the others philosophy. That's just a bizarre assertion.

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Obama and Romney both want to become President of the US, so they must have the same philosophies, right?

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Who cares what Javik thinks? The so called "Prothean Commander" goes "Yes Massa" and becomes a private in Shepard's goon squad almost instantly.

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yeah i sent 2100 humans to their deaths. to save asari. does that mean i don't think humans are equal to asari. no that just means by doing that i save 10000 asari . oh and the council which leads the citadel races

there is a reason ppl hate the cost ,. some do say they don't mind,. but others hate having to sacrifice the geth but by doing so save every other race


some would choose to sacrfice organics , some would choose to upload themselves and become the new catalyst . which puts synthetics on top. and probably has shep caring more for "organics" then say geth . the ones s/he will care about are all organics, crew wise so suck it

i get your looking for a canon ending. but all endings are wrong in their own way . "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" simple. the reapers need to be stopped. there was going to be a cost . and well it happened to be a geth

Modifié par ghost9191, 06 novembre 2012 - 11:06 .


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i get your looking for a canon ending. but all endings are wrong in their own way . "needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" simple. the reapers need to be stopped. there was going to be a cost . and well it happened to be a geth

Or, the cost can just be the sense of security of the paranoid. I prefer that one.

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You know, Garrus doesn't like the geth either. You can say you're validating him if it makes you feel better.

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Xilizhra wrote...
Or, the cost can just be the sense of security of the paranoid. I prefer that one.


Unfortunately, the "ostrich defence mechanism" isn't usually very successful.

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
Or, the cost can just be the sense of security of the paranoid. I prefer that one.


Unfortunately, the "ostrich defence mechanism" isn't usually very successful.

It's fun how you try to tell me how to play my own character, even after uploading into the Catalyst.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 06 novembre 2012 - 11:35 .


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Xilizhra wrote...
It's fun how you try to tell me how to play my own character, even after uploading into the Catalyst.


I don't believe I was trying to tell you how to play anything.  I was just pointing out that burying your head in the sand rarely works, even if you believe it does.

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ElSuperGecko wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...
It's fun how you try to tell me how to play my own character, even after uploading into the Catalyst.


I don't believe I was trying to tell you how to play anything.  I was just pointing out that burying your head in the sand rarely works, even if you believe it does.

My point is that I'm not burying my head in the sand over anything.

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Xilizhra wrote...
My point is that I'm not burying my head in the sand over anything.


Where did I say you were?  I made an observation, that's all.

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Synthesis got thoroughly trashed in Leviathan if you really look at it. Who still thinks that Casper is still a good idea? Leviathan. What is Leviathan waiting for? Synthesis. Just not the version they got the first time. They want the new version. Why? So they don't need the orbs to control the Reapers, Synthetics and Organics as thralls. This is since each race retains their original characteristics.

I expect Control to take a thorough thrashing in Omega DLC.

In the next one rumored to be The Citadel which is rumored to be about the keepers, will Destroy take a thorough thrashing? Will we discover where Casper is located? Will be blow up Casper? Who knows?

Will we then get a redone Priority Earth DLC the way it should have been done the first time? Then we get one that is not a solution of Casper finally even though they said they're not going to do it because if they said they were going to do they'd have to admit they were wrong and we know from hundreds of years of experience that companies and corporations never admit they were wrong. They just do it because it was "part of the plan all along." Which is why "if you knew what we had planned you'd hang onto your games forever."

Puzzle Theory.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

Synthesis got thoroughly trashed in Leviathan if you really look at it. Who still thinks that Casper is still a good idea? Leviathan. What is Leviathan waiting for? Synthesis. Just not the version they got the first time. They want the new version. Why? So they don't need the orbs to control the Reapers, Synthetics and Organics as thralls. This is since each race retains their original characteristics.

I expect Control to take a thorough thrashing in Omega DLC.

In the next one rumored to be The Citadel which is rumored to be about the keepers, will Destroy take a thorough thrashing? Will we discover where Casper is located? Will be blow up Casper? Who knows?

Will we then get a redone Priority Earth DLC the way it should have been done the first time? Then we get one that is not a solution of Casper finally even though they said they're not going to do it because if they said they were going to do they'd have to admit they were wrong and we know from hundreds of years of experience that companies and corporations never admit they were wrong. They just do it because it was "part of the plan all along." Which is why "if you knew what we had planned you'd hang onto your games forever."

Puzzle Theory.


yeah like that lol . as i think Mike Gamble said, if the fans knew what was planned they wouldn't be surprised. or something like that .

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Seboist wrote...

Who cares what Javik thinks? The so called "Prothean Commander" goes "Yes Massa" and becomes a private in Shepard's goon squad almost instantly.



That's exactly how military works.

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sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

*nonsense snip*

Puzzle Theory.



Figures.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:11 .


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HYR 2.0 wrote...

My opinion of Javik is funny because while I tend to agree with most of the things he says, I end up doing almost everything differently than he would. He'd sabotage the genophage cure; I was close, but decided against it. He'd free the rachni-queen as an ally; I say it's too risky given her exposure to Reaper tech (kind of contradicts what Javik says earlier about mercy, though). Javik wants Legion tossed out the airlock, would destroy the geth in a heartbeat; I'm more inclined to save them on Rannoch than the quarians, disagree that they can't be allies.

And then of course, choosing Synthesis at the end of the game. But hey, he told me not to care what others think. :whistle:


yeah bout the reasons i am iffy on the geth, the rachni were kinda forced into it. same can be said about th egeth but they did join by their own free will . they knew what the reapers would do , and what they would have the geth do but they chose to side with them. and some geth see the reapers as gods. it is just iffy with them . a lot of risk in helping them. they proved to be a threat .

not disagreeing,. but the rachni and geth can be seen the same way

Modifié par ghost9191, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:12 .


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ghost9191 wrote...

yeah bout the reasons i am iffy on the geth, the rachni were kinda forced into it. same can be said about th egeth but they did join by their own free will . they knew what the reapers would do , and what they would have the geth do but they chose to side with them. and some geth see the reapers as gods. it is just iffy with them . a lot of risk in helping them. they proved to be a threat .


Rachni being forced doesn't matter. If they're indoctrinated in the process then all bets are off.

Geth may not be the most dependable allies, but we're putting all our chips into one fight, so I take strength over security.

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

ghost9191 wrote...

yeah bout the reasons i am iffy on the geth, the rachni were kinda forced into it. same can be said about th egeth but they did join by their own free will . they knew what the reapers would do , and what they would have the geth do but they chose to side with them. and some geth see the reapers as gods. it is just iffy with them . a lot of risk in helping them. they proved to be a threat .


Rachni being forced doesn't matter. If they're indoctrinated in the process then all bets are off.

Geth may not be the most dependable allies, but we're putting all our chips into one fight, so I take strength over security.


what i am saying. would be the same with the geth . gotta do what you have to to beat the reapers. but the rachni were not indoctrinated, they were forced, prettty much as the geth were. well geth joined out of free will . which then the reapers gained control over them

you say strength over security , you contradict yourself

Modifié par ghost9191, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:40 .


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AdmiralCheez wrote...

CosmicGnosis, we've had this discussion. All the endings are stupid. Just use a frickin' random number generator or something.


But if I pick anything other than Destroy, I'm a bad guy. Just ask most of BSN.

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CosmicGnosis, we've had this discussion. All the endings are stupid. Just use a frickin' random number generator or something.


But if I pick anything other than Destroy, I'm a bad guy. Just ask most of BSN.

Don't let the BSN influence your decision. All endings have bad implications anyway, so at least one person will think you're a bad guy regardless of what you do.

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CosmicGnosis, we've had this discussion. All the endings are stupid. Just use a frickin' random number generator or something.


But if I pick anything other than Destroy, I'm a bad guy. Just ask most of BSN.


yeah pretty sure a lot of ppl call ppl that pick destroy bad

just pick what you feel is the right choice. there isn't one so when it comes down to it it is up to u.

like shep has no one to ask , well besides the catalyst. so same should be for you

like i don't pick destroy because of bsn, i pick it cause it is my choice. one that gives the most hope . at least i think


think i will give you more crap if you pick it because it is what bsn wants . you conformist :devil:

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

CosmicGnosis, we've had this discussion. All the endings are stupid. Just use a frickin' random number generator or something.


But if I pick anything other than Destroy, I'm a bad guy. Just ask most of BSN.


Who cares what they think.  If you're comfortable with a decision, go for it.  It's not like they're playing YOUR game, lol. Plus, most of the time, people arguing about the endings, don't go in the argument expecting to have their mind changed, now do they?  

Modifié par spirosz, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:58 .