Aller au contenu

Photo

I loath the stargazer scene


  • Veuillez vous connecter pour répondre
96 réponses à ce sujet

#1
Binary_Helix 1

Binary_Helix 1
  • Members
  • 2 655 messages
Shepard's epic journey was reduced to some fable told by a creepy old grandpa. How cheesy and very badly out of place.

#2
David7204

David7204
  • Members
  • 15 187 messages
I couldn't agree more.

There are very few things in the series I would completely scrap, head to toe. That is one of them.

Modifié par David7204, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:28 .


#3
Guest_magnetite_*

Guest_magnetite_*
  • Guests
You guys realize who the old man is? It's Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon. Mass Effect is a space exploration game in a way, so they hired him to do that scene. For some that scene inspired some about our own space travel and some day we will be living outside the galaxy and such.

It's not Mass Effect related, but it does have to do with one of the underlying themes of this game (exploring planets and alien cultures).

#4
David7204

David7204
  • Members
  • 15 187 messages
Space never made the story great.

Plenty of stories take place in space. Most of them suck.

Shepard made the story great. The crew made the story great. Heroism made the story great. And all of those things can exist in any setting.

Space would be beautiful on a ship like the Normandy and with a crew like Shepard's. But the ending throws both of those under the bus. And without them (or more generally, without what Shepard and the crew represent) , it just doesn't mean much to me.

Modifié par David7204, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:43 .


#5
plfranke

plfranke
  • Members
  • 1 404 messages

David7204 wrote...

Space never made the story great.

Plenty of stories take place in space. Most of them suck.

Shepard made the story great. The crew made the story great. Heroism made the story great. And all of those things can exist in any setting.

Space would be beautiful on a ship like the Normandy and with a crew like Shepard's. But the ending throws both of those under the bus. And without them, it just doesn't mean much to me.

If I knew how to make signatures, this would be mine.

#6
teh DRUMPf!!

teh DRUMPf!!
  • Members
  • 9 142 messages

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Shepard's epic journey was reduced to some fable told by a creepy old grandpa.



I'm no fan of that scene in the slightest, but this statement is utterly ridiculous.

#7
High Five Revival

High Five Revival
  • Members
  • 141 messages

magnetite wrote...

You guys realize who the old man is? It's Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon. Mass Effect is a space exploration game in a way, so they hired him to do that scene. For some that scene inspired some about our own space travel and some day we will be living outside the galaxy and such.

It's not Mass Effect related, but it does have to do with one of the underlying themes of this game (exploring planets and alien cultures).


That's how I viewed it too.   I thought it was a nice little coda there at the end and a nice little nod from Bioware/EA.   For me, it was a great scene to end the trilogy and set up nicely for future adventures in the Mass Effect universe.   Just one more story...

#8
AkodoRyu

AkodoRyu
  • Members
  • 2 995 messages
I admit, this was the thing that put me off. Nevermind who was that, I didn't needed any "tranquilizer", so this was rather like a slap in the face. Abstract shiny picture and people I don't know.

Sarrano was at least funny.

So before I do another play-through, is it skippable, or will I have to get up from my computer for few minutes?...

#9
Asch Lavigne

Asch Lavigne
  • Members
  • 3 166 messages
"Tell me another story about the Shepard."
"Weren't you listening? Shep is dead, there are no more stories. But if you want to hear more space stories, I've got one that takes place not in the Milky Way, but in a galaxy, far. far away...."

Anyways, what bugged me most about that scene was Shep being referred to as "The Shepard." Also, if everything gets rebuilt regardless of ending choice (aside from refuse, which gives you a different stargazer scene), how is it that these people who have not yet achieved space travel (which does exist because again, things were rebuilt long before stargazer was born) heard about Shep?

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 06 novembre 2012 - 07:56 .


#10
Guest_DirtyMouthSally_*

Guest_DirtyMouthSally_*
  • Guests

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Shepard's epic journey was reduced to some fable told by a creepy old grandpa. How cheesy and very badly out of place.

I didn't much care for the scene, or "the Shepard" reference either, but I don't see what's creepy about the Stargazer.  What's creepy about an old man telling a story?

#11
Shelondias

Shelondias
  • Members
  • 798 messages
good grief

#12
Brovikk Rasputin

Brovikk Rasputin
  • Members
  • 3 825 messages

Zondergrod wrote...

good grief

+1

#13
Han Shot First

Han Shot First
  • Members
  • 21 144 messages
I wasn't a fan of the Stargazer scene.

But I thought the Buzz Aldrin 'cameo' was awesome. I just wish he had been used better.

#14
Applepie_Svk

Applepie_Svk
  • Members
  • 5 469 messages
still best part of grandpa storytelling was sharing of all sex scenes with some child or when grandpa told to that child give me another few bucks and I will tell you more stories about Shepard.

#15
dsl08002

dsl08002
  • Members
  • 1 778 messages
i couldn´t agree more,

that scene is rubbish

#16
M Hedonist

M Hedonist
  • Members
  • 4 299 messages

AkodoRyu wrote...

So before I do another play-through, is it skippable, or will I have to get up from my computer for few minutes?...

You might as well turn off the game at that point.
I mean, why not? The only thing that comes after that is the "Please buy our DLC" disclaimer.

#17
elegolas1

elegolas1
  • Members
  • 341 messages
It was just so cheesy! what a disaster

#18
M Hedonist

M Hedonist
  • Members
  • 4 299 messages

elegolas1 wrote...

It was just so cheesy! what a disaster

Hmm, the fact that it's cheesy doesn't make it detestable, at least for me. There are many cheesy moments and cheesy lines in the ME games. The fact that these two characters are complete strangers makes the scene feel odd for me. If it was, say, Garrus telling his son about Shepard, I would've found the scene awesome.

#19
Foolsfolly

Foolsfolly
  • Members
  • 4 770 messages

David7204 wrote...

Space never made the story great.

Plenty of stories take place in space. Most of them suck.

Shepard made the story great. The crew made the story great. Heroism made the story great. And all of those things can exist in any setting.

Space would be beautiful on a ship like the Normandy and with a crew like Shepard's. But the ending throws both of those under the bus. And without them (or more generally, without what Shepard and the crew represent) , it just doesn't mean much to me.


This.

And yeah. I hated the Stargazer.

In the original ending no one got any sense of closure. At all. You have no idea who survived the war or not. You have no idea if there's a civilization still functioning or not. You have no idea if the Normandy crew could survive on that planet they crashed on or not.

And instead of showing the crew being together and hopeful for the future BioWare drops yet another new character on our heads that we care nothing for. And this is supposed to be some kind of sign of hope? Never mind Buzz's terrible voice acting chops or the fact that I cringed when I heard the little kid say "The Shepard".

But mainly I don't know these people. I don't care about these people. If you wanted an epilogue that inspired a sense of hope for the future it would be the Normandy team. All of them from throughout the series standing somewhere by a Shepard monument as the universe picked itself back up.

Ya know?

But... whatever.

#20
Humanoid_Typhoon

Humanoid_Typhoon
  • Members
  • 4 735 messages
I loathe Buzz Aldrin's voice, I don;t know what it is but every time I hear him talk, the whole world spins a little slower.


He's still an American hero, no doubt.

#21
Eckswhyzed

Eckswhyzed
  • Members
  • 1 889 messages
I liked it. It reminded me a lot of ME1 actually.

Modifié par Eckswhyzed, 06 novembre 2012 - 10:45 .


#22
George Costanza

George Costanza
  • Members
  • 391 messages
It's absolutely horrible. I know they just wanted to shoehorn Aldrin because of the whole space exploration thing, but Jesus, there's other ways. Terrible scene.

#23
Necrotron

Necrotron
  • Members
  • 2 315 messages
Who doesn't?

#24
Zaalbar

Zaalbar
  • Members
  • 845 messages
You see Bioware could have had an old Wrex or Eve or maybe even an old Liara many years later telling the story of the legend of Shepard to a young grandchild. This to me would had a far more emotional impact then watching some creepy old nameless man taking a young nameless child into the woods at night.

#25
Argolas

Argolas
  • Members
  • 4 255 messages
"Did all that really happen?"