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#76
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I thought there was evidence that we're the product of the only evolutionary cycle Earth has had. Something to do with RNA? I'm not certain.

Anyway, a pretty miserable outlook, but probably not far from the truth. The planet'll die long before we're capable of terraforming, but maybe we can gather enough resources from our system to help us jerry-rig the planet for long enough for aliens to find us and rescue us. Or kill us.

So much optimism..

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I liked it. Oh well

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You guys who don't like that scene have no class.
Story telling is as old as humanity itself. regardless of setting and medium, whether it be form the voice of an elder around a camp fire, or through the latest technology, we're all entertained by stories. Stories inspired by the heroism. Inspired by love, by war, by friendship, by curiosity and exploration.
This last scene is away for the Bioware team to say, we're not doing anything different now then elders were doing back then. We're simply telling a story.
It really adds poignancy to the story telling.
I assume most of you would prefer the michael bay treatment, have shepard stand on top of an exploding reaper with an electric guitar playing in the background, with your naked sexy LI to pose in the most sexually blatant way.

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Ultranovae wrote...

You guys who don't like that scene have no class.
Story telling is as old as humanity itself. regardless of setting and medium, whether it be form the voice of an elder around a camp fire, or through the latest technology, we're all entertained by stories. Stories inspired by the heroism. Inspired by love, by war, by friendship, by curiosity and exploration.
This last scene is away for the Bioware team to say, we're not doing anything different now then elders were doing back then. We're simply telling a story.
It really adds poignancy to the story telling.
I assume most of you would prefer the michael bay treatment, have shepard stand on top of an exploding reaper with an electric guitar playing in the background, with your naked sexy LI to pose in the most sexually blatant way.

LOL Image IPB

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Ultranovae wrote...

You guys who don't like that scene have no class.
Story telling is as old as humanity itself. regardless of setting and medium, whether it be form the voice of an elder around a camp fire, or through the latest technology, we're all entertained by stories. Stories inspired by the heroism. Inspired by love, by war, by friendship, by curiosity and exploration.
This last scene is away for the Bioware team to say, we're not doing anything different now then elders were doing back then. We're simply telling a story.
It really adds poignancy to the story telling.
I assume most of you would prefer the michael bay treatment, have shepard stand on top of an exploding reaper with an electric guitar playing in the background, with your naked sexy LI to pose in the most sexually blatant way.


Don't even try to justify this. You only sound stupider in my eyes.

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I actually didn't mind this scene that much... When I first saw it I was still trying to comprehend the 10 minute complete assassination of ME that proceeded it.

That being said, I think its very cool how it's voiced by Buzz Aldrin. It's a damn shame that it was received so poorly, but that's because, again, of what proceeded it IMO.

Edit:

I starting thinking, and I actually do like this scene.  This, the Anderson-Shep "best seats in the house" scene, and the final goodbyes with your crew members (not the forced evac scene) are the only good parts from the ending for me.  The rest completely lacks (lacks being being generous) quality and/or internal consitency with the rest of the ME storyline.

Modifié par Kildin_of_the_Volus, 21 novembre 2012 - 09:37 .


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Jade8aby88 wrote...

Ultranovae wrote...

You guys who don't like that scene have no class.
Story telling is as old as humanity itself. regardless of setting and medium, whether it be form the voice of an elder around a camp fire, or through the latest technology, we're all entertained by stories. Stories inspired by the heroism. Inspired by love, by war, by friendship, by curiosity and exploration.
This last scene is away for the Bioware team to say, we're not doing anything different now then elders were doing back then. We're simply telling a story.
It really adds poignancy to the story telling.
I assume most of you would prefer the michael bay treatment, have shepard stand on top of an exploding reaper with an electric guitar playing in the background, with your naked sexy LI to pose in the most sexually blatant way.


Don't even try to justify this. You only sound stupider in my eyes.



gee,  you sound even more butt hurt than I did.
 Dude, I'm in my right and privilage to do whatever the hell I want, and if I want to analyze the stylistic choice of a scene in mass effect instead of bend over like sheep screaming baaaaaa, baaaaaa, the mass effect ending was baaaaaad, like most people lvoe to do, then it's my choice.

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and yeah I'm implying you're sheep if that wasn't clear enough.


ok, that was mean, no need to resort to name calling, you don't like the scene, I like the scene, I guess it's just a matter of taste. I simply wanted to voice my point of view, I think everyone is entitled to one.:wizard::D

Modifié par Ultranovae, 21 novembre 2012 - 10:03 .


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Agree completely. Wish that scene had been removed as it was a truly atrocious piece of garbage.

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It gave me hope, that now seems false :( When I first saw it I honestly thought it was telling us there was going to be another Shepard story.

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Ultranovae wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Ultranovae wrote...

You guys who don't like that scene have no class.
Story telling is as old as humanity itself. regardless of setting and medium, whether it be form the voice of an elder around a camp fire, or through the latest technology, we're all entertained by stories. Stories inspired by the heroism. Inspired by love, by war, by friendship, by curiosity and exploration.
This last scene is away for the Bioware team to say, we're not doing anything different now then elders were doing back then. We're simply telling a story.
It really adds poignancy to the story telling.
I assume most of you would prefer the michael bay treatment, have shepard stand on top of an exploding reaper with an electric guitar playing in the background, with your naked sexy LI to pose in the most sexually blatant way.


Don't even try to justify this. You only sound stupider in my eyes.



gee,  you sound even more butt hurt than I did.
 Dude, I'm in my right and privilage to do whatever the hell I want, and if I want to analyze the stylistic choice of a scene in mass effect instead of bend over like sheep screaming baaaaaa, baaaaaa, the mass effect ending was baaaaaad, like most people lvoe to do, then it's my choice.


I would say give it up, most gamers are teenage kids they wont appreciate the finer arts. As much as I hated the ME3 endings this last scene was not something I considered to be part of the bad ending. It was nicely done. Nothing wrong with a grandfather telling a story to his grandkid about past events at all. Just such a shame it gave me what now seems to be false hope.

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The use of Buzz Aldrin was rather endearing to me. I was alive in that time of our history and yes, even just his voice, reminded me of when America, and the entire world, looked to the stars.
But.
The scene in the game just cemented the fact that through Shepards action, the entire galaxy had been thrown into a darkage of countless years. Rather a depressing use of such an important figure to me.
The fact that the child said 'the Shepard' would not be so unusual, at least to me. He/She would have been idolized for his/her actions, however known or unknown those actions might be. People attribute many abilities/actions to a perceived hero just to help them live through tough times.
Overall, the scene implied (to me) that the story was a either a fairy tale or something that happened thousands of years before. Either way (and again, to me), not a good parting shot.

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Agreed. That scene is pointless. 

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The end of the trilogy :
"It was a story I found in the book."

EA, you just got yourself a ticket to the "First ever assasination of a game developer by it's fans" award.

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magnetite wrote...

You guys realize who the old man is? It's Buzz Aldrin, the second man on the moon. Mass Effect is a space exploration game in a way, so they hired him to do that scene. For some that scene inspired some about our own space travel and some day we will be living outside the galaxy and such.

It's not Mass Effect related, but it does have to do with one of the underlying themes of this game (exploring planets and alien cultures).


Actors aren't supposed to be the determents of a theme in a movie. Having Buzz Aldrin in ME3 was purely a megalomaniac move from, i'm pretty sure about this one, Casey Hudson. Buzz Aldrin is only in the game so Casey can say "Hey i had the guy who landed on the moon in my own project!". And basically the whole Stargazer scene is only there as an excuse to give Buzz a purpose for being in the game. Originally it was supposed to show the aftermath of the relays blowing up and joker landing on that jungle planet, by showing that hundreds of years later the galaxy was indeed in an intergalactic dark age.

Since the Extended Cut... well, it doesn't have a meaning anymore. It should've been cut completely, but you know... Buzz Aldrin and... well... ARTISTIC INTEGRITY! :innocent:

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It was just too ****ing weird in general. "One day my sweet!" Seriously? I mean cmon, how the **** did that even make it into the final game?

I mean seriously, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE, WHERE ARE THEY, HOW DO THEY KNOW ABOUT SHEPARD AND GARRUS' SEXYTIMES?

Modifié par EnvyTB075, 21 novembre 2012 - 03:57 .


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Well, I would have liked it if:

1) the ending(s) totally didn't suck, and
2) they didn't refer to Shepard as, 'The Shepard.' Seriously, who thought that was a good idea?

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"Buy our DLC...."

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Linkenski wrote...

Actors aren't supposed to be the determents of a theme in a movie. Having Buzz Aldrin in ME3 was purely a megalomaniac move from, i'm pretty sure about this one, Casey Hudson. Buzz Aldrin is only in the game so Casey can say "Hey i had the guy who landed on the moon in my own project!". And basically the whole Stargazer scene is only there as an excuse to give Buzz a purpose for being in the game. Originally it was supposed to show the aftermath of the relays blowing up and joker landing on that jungle planet, by showing that hundreds of years later the galaxy was indeed in an intergalactic dark age.

Since the Extended Cut... well, it doesn't have a meaning anymore. It should've been cut completely, but you know... Buzz Aldrin and... well... ARTISTIC INTEGRITY! :innocent:

QFT

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I was ok with this scene, it was a nice tip of the cap to several ideas.

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Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

Shepard's epic journey was reduced to some fable told by a creepy old grandpa. How cheesy and very badly out of place.


Yes. The entire game is a collection stories told by Stargazers. And the original Stargazer could be wrong about the events that happened in ME1-3 since "details have been lost in time." The Refusal Stargazer scene is better and she is much more accurate because "the archives tell the true story".

Modifié par Enhanced, 02 mai 2013 - 01:47 .


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I didn't really like that scene either. It LOOKS nice, and I kind of liked hearing Buzz Aldrin's voice, but the implications of this scene were kind of annoying. We don't get much in the way of closure even post-EC, but then we fast forward to a time when all of these characters are dead, and that somehow, accounts of these events are now obscured into myth? I sure hope grandpa doesn't tell the kid about all the naughty talk about Azure with Liara, tossing a clone out of the cargo bay, and the huge carpet of bodies left in her gunblazing wake. Needless to say I try to ignore that it exists. I just stop the game at the credits.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 02 mai 2013 - 02:58 .