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I pick me. three times. because I am the best ever!!! time to make a thread about how awesome I am!

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megabeast37215 wrote...
Being a master soloer is only a bad thing if you lack the ability to adapt to/cooperate with team strategy. I doubt any top notch players would struggle at 'playing their role' in a team... the question is, do they want to? Alot of the 'lone wolf' types can't stop using lone wolf tactics, not because they are incapable of it, but because they don't want to.

I wasn't even saying that, exactly. It's the redundancy bit that sucks more. Some people just want to be able to roflstomp any difficulty, but if the team's gonna roflstomp, I at least want to be a part of it. I'd like to feel useful, maybe even somewhat necessary.

Gotta admit, though, I'm sort of like that (re: lone wolfiness). I don't like sticking near the group exactly (pairs I don't mind), and if the team's general strategy is more about camping than anything else, sometimes, if you leave an area rather than just waiting for enemies to walk to you, enemies will spawn in an area behind the other players and they sort of die. Don't like doing that to people, so I generally feel pretty miserable in camping games.

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Nobody is redundant. The game is about fun. But yeah sometime splaying with 3 other good people you'll hear us complain there isn't enough enemies to kill as were are all looking for anyhting to shoot lol. Then you play a PUG and your like i don't remember so many enemies at once

I'm not talking about people saying negative **** about relative skill level. I know that the game's designed around fun, and I definitely have more fun if I actually feel useful.That's sort of my point. Not worried about people saying mean things, but it does kinda blow to be pretty damned useless in a match. I think you've successfully avoided the experience, because you're one of the top tier players. I'm not BAD. exactly. I can clutch a few waves if I need to (on gold, probably not platinum), and while I don't have a perfect knowledge of what enemies spawn each wave and where they'll spawn based on where players are standing, I have a fairly decent intuitive sense of it. Relative to most of the playerbase, I'm good. On a team with great players, though, I can tell that I can't keep up, and that's way less fun for me than knowing that I'm a helpful part of the team dynamic.

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I pick the one with the highest N7 because that determines whos best.

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None of them, they are all scrubs... :whistle:

Srsly, all 3 are great. I play with anyone I can rely on. And I can rely on all of them, including Dopedgoat, Uh Cold and a number of others.

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Uh Cold wrote...

I pick the one with the highest N7 because that determines whos best.


^This.

Also, while you're there InvaderOne, you still haven't come back on PC... :(. Was kinda hoping to get some games going some day.

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Well INVADERONE is just average, Caineghis2500 is a lone wolf off doing his own thing and Ashen Earth would critique my builds, so I wouldn't play with any of them. Also I'm on PS3 so I couldn't. Also this was a joke, and I'm saying that instead of letting you guess because obvious jokes are being taken seriously in this thread. Also if I were on Xbox I'd choose Ashen Earth because I don't like listening to people on mic while I play.

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INVADERONE!!!

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_only1biggs_ wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

invaderone and caineghis2500 are master illusionists. they would have you beleive they are that good, but always insert a sleeper agent in their team who carries them and makes sure they get good scores. when they solo, they use modded controllers and "overpowered" classes and weapons...


lol, no.   Somebody has personal issues and is making up stuff out of their X#@$!  I should report you, but I am not sure how exactly I can report you for making stuff up about players where you can't back it up.   Modified controllers, really?:mellow:


Relax Biggs is a friend of theirs and plays with them alot. He's also a very good player. every bit as good if not better then invador and cain


upinya knows the score :P




Yeah, I saw the post where they said you were friends with them.  Perhaps a smiley face next time.  I made the mistake that you were one of those rockheads that post stuff to dis people.:wizard:

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Me! Ofcourse! /thread

...nobody full of hot air and hair! Who wouldn't want that!?

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The only person I would want to play with would be xcal, but hes on PC.

I wish I knew multiplayer would be so good because I would have bought for my PC instead of the Sheitbox 360.

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najzere wrote...

Well INVADERONE is just average, Caineghis2500 is a lone wolf off doing his own thing and Ashen Earth would critique my builds, so I wouldn't play with any of them. Also I'm on PS3 so I couldn't. Also this was a joke, and I'm saying that instead of letting you guess because obvious jokes are being taken seriously in this thread. Also if I were on Xbox I'd choose Ashen Earth because I don't like listening to people on mic while I play.


LOL. The gauntlet has been thrown.

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Twinkles DeVere wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Played with Ashen Earth a few times, never the other two, so he's off the list. I like new things. More curious about INVADERONE than Caineghis2500, truth be told. Playing with a master soloist might kinda suck anyways. I like not feeling completely redundant in games.

That's actually the problem with playing with any great players. My place in the match is basically to not screw anything important up in regards to spawns and such, and to keep my place in the hack zone so that we can earn our creds in a timely manner. Sort of like the group I play with now. We're all competent, so I can not be at my best and we'll still make it through, but I never feel completely redundant. Still gotta admit that I'm probably the worst in the group, but we still work fairly well together.


Being a master soloer is only a bad thing if you lack the ability to adapt to/cooperate with team strategy. I doubt any top notch players would struggle at 'playing their role' in a team... the question is, do they want to? Alot of the 'lone wolf' types can't stop using lone wolf tactics, not because they are incapable of it, but because they don't want to.

I've actually taken invador on some platinum speed runs, and mind you he's not a speed runner and has said such, and he did fine. Good players will adapt to anything.

Still Gollum has to be on my short list. I watched him clutch a wave 9 plaitnum while the other 3 was down (me included in that) with a FQE and a prebuff Harpoon gun. I don't think i've seen that many pahtoms get unicorned w/o a missed shot ever.

Some people are really efficeint killers like ashen and some other friends i have which i won't name
Some people are good at staying alive and killing at their pace
most of the people good at 1 are good at the other.


MilkAcat's pretty awesome too. Have played with Ashen only once - still I think you're the best player I play with regularly anyway. Upinya for the short list! lol


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Yeah Milk is an awesome player. Ive seen him just dominate the killfeed at times lol I think he's better then i am personally. I think i have quite a few people on my FL thats better then I am. I guess its all relative. When i play PUGs i usually feel like a Biotic God, then I play with some elites from my FL and I feel more like bronze spawn nuking scrub lol

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INVADERONE wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

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OMFG, really? But to answer your question Caineghis2500, even though I play with him already. Haven't played with Invader...but would be honored to. I've played with Ashen multiple times on gold. Its not about skill really its about attitude. And Caine is very friendly and fun to play with, he just happens to also be a very reliable team mate.


I'm the opposite. I've gotten a few in with invador but none with cain yet. I wnated to do a platinum duo but with all the new games coming out I haven't spent as much time in ME3 as I was before. I've also played with ashen quite a few times. Still I'm not gonna bother to answer the topic question cause its a stupid question IMO. 99% of the forum has never played wtih all 3 lol. I will say that invader is a good player and a cool guy. Was fun to play with for sure. 


Yeah Upinya we should do a Platinum Duo sometime. Let's plan for it. I'd like that actually.

I'm down. You can pull me off AC3 when you wanna do it. My recording quality still sucks though lol

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upinya slayin wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

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OMFG, really? But to answer your question Caineghis2500, even though I play with him already. Haven't played with Invader...but would be honored to. I've played with Ashen multiple times on gold. Its not about skill really its about attitude. And Caine is very friendly and fun to play with, he just happens to also be a very reliable team mate.


I'm the opposite. I've gotten a few in with invador but none with cain yet. I wnated to do a platinum duo but with all the new games coming out I haven't spent as much time in ME3 as I was before. I've also played with ashen quite a few times. Still I'm not gonna bother to answer the topic question cause its a stupid question IMO. 99% of the forum has never played wtih all 3 lol. I will say that invader is a good player and a cool guy. Was fun to play with for sure. 


Yeah Upinya we should do a Platinum Duo sometime. Let's plan for it. I'd like that actually.

I'm down. You can pull me off AC3 when you wanna do it. My recording quality still sucks though lol


OK when we do it I'll run through with your capture settings. I have learned from a lot of my mistakes which I am ashamed to say are many.....many ...mistakes. lol

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This is what passes for 5-star 8-page MP discussion these days?! Jesus, if it's not threads crying about or for every little balance update, it's pure circlejerk threads like this (also the "troll" threads).

It's sad to say, since there's so much more potential for in depth build and tactic discussions with ME3's co-op mode, but official mass effect forums had higher quality strategy discussion before MP was ever introduced.

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Zero132132 wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...
Being a master soloer is only a bad thing if you lack the ability to adapt to/cooperate with team strategy. I doubt any top notch players would struggle at 'playing their role' in a team... the question is, do they want to? Alot of the 'lone wolf' types can't stop using lone wolf tactics, not because they are incapable of it, but because they don't want to.

I wasn't even saying that, exactly. It's the redundancy bit that sucks more. Some people just want to be able to roflstomp any difficulty, but if the team's gonna roflstomp, I at least want to be a part of it. I'd like to feel useful, maybe even somewhat necessary.

Gotta admit, though, I'm sort of like that (re: lone wolfiness). I don't like sticking near the group exactly (pairs I don't mind), and if the team's general strategy is more about camping than anything else, sometimes, if you leave an area rather than just waiting for enemies to walk to you, enemies will spawn in an area behind the other players and they sort of die. Don't like doing that to people, so I generally feel pretty miserable in camping games.

upinya slayin wrote...

Nobody is redundant. The game is about fun. But yeah sometime splaying with 3 other good people you'll hear us complain there isn't enough enemies to kill as were are all looking for anyhting to shoot lol. Then you play a PUG and your like i don't remember so many enemies at once

I'm not talking about people saying negative **** about relative skill level. I know that the game's designed around fun, and I definitely have more fun if I actually feel useful.That's sort of my point. Not worried about people saying mean things, but it does kinda blow to be pretty damned useless in a match. I think you've successfully avoided the experience, because you're one of the top tier players. I'm not BAD. exactly. I can clutch a few waves if I need to (on gold, probably not platinum), and while I don't have a perfect knowledge of what enemies spawn each wave and where they'll spawn based on where players are standing, I have a fairly decent intuitive sense of it. Relative to most of the playerbase, I'm good. On a team with great players, though, I can tell that I can't keep up, and that's way less fun for me than knowing that I'm a helpful part of the team dynamic.


If i feel useless i'll just go make a sandwhich lol:O

But i see what your saying. nobody should feel useless, were all playing to have a good time:wizard:

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ryoldschool wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

invaderone and caineghis2500 are master illusionists. they would have you beleive they are that good, but always insert a sleeper agent in their team who carries them and makes sure they get good scores. when they solo, they use modded controllers and "overpowered" classes and weapons...


lol, no.   Somebody has personal issues and is making up stuff out of their X#@$!  I should report you, but I am not sure how exactly I can report you for making stuff up about players where you can't back it up.   Modified controllers, really?:mellow:


Relax Biggs is a friend of theirs and plays with them alot. He's also a very good player. every bit as good if not better then invador and cain


upinya knows the score :P




Yeah, I saw the post where they said you were friends with them.  Perhaps a smiley face next time.  I made the mistake that you were one of those rockheads that post stuff to dis people.:wizard:


yes yes, it was MY mistake. of course!
why would i put an "emoticon"? wasn't the ridiculous statement enough of a clue that i was joking?

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INVADERONE wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

INVADERONE wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

LadyNemsis21 wrote...

OMFG, really? But to answer your question Caineghis2500, even though I play with him already. Haven't played with Invader...but would be honored to. I've played with Ashen multiple times on gold. Its not about skill really its about attitude. And Caine is very friendly and fun to play with, he just happens to also be a very reliable team mate.


I'm the opposite. I've gotten a few in with invador but none with cain yet. I wnated to do a platinum duo but with all the new games coming out I haven't spent as much time in ME3 as I was before. I've also played with ashen quite a few times. Still I'm not gonna bother to answer the topic question cause its a stupid question IMO. 99% of the forum has never played wtih all 3 lol. I will say that invader is a good player and a cool guy. Was fun to play with for sure. 


Yeah Upinya we should do a Platinum Duo sometime. Let's plan for it. I'd like that actually.

I'm down. You can pull me off AC3 when you wanna do it. My recording quality still sucks though lol


OK when we do it I'll run through with your capture settings. I have learned from a lot of my mistakes which I am ashamed to say are many.....many ...mistakes. lol


I have not learned how to fine tune it. If only capturing was as eays as playing the game lol

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_only1biggs_ wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

_only1biggs_ wrote...

invaderone and caineghis2500 are master illusionists. they would have you beleive they are that good, but always insert a sleeper agent in their team who carries them and makes sure they get good scores. when they solo, they use modded controllers and "overpowered" classes and weapons...


lol, no.   Somebody has personal issues and is making up stuff out of their X#@$!  I should report you, but I am not sure how exactly I can report you for making stuff up about players where you can't back it up.   Modified controllers, really?:mellow:


Relax Biggs is a friend of theirs and plays with them alot. He's also a very good player. every bit as good if not better then invador and cain


upinya knows the score :P




Yeah, I saw the post where they said you were friends with them.  Perhaps a smiley face next time.  I made the mistake that you were one of those rockheads that post stuff to dis people.:wizard:


yes yes, it was MY mistake. of course!
why would i put an "emoticon"? wasn't the ridiculous statement enough of a clue that i was joking?




Never take anyhting for granted lol.
and sorry i'm usually in a full game when you send me invites. we'll have to get a game in soon.

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Never take anyhting for granted lol.
and sorry i'm usually in a full game when you send me invites. we'll have to get a game in soon.


no probs. i'll be gathering some credits later for the new character cards, so we can do a few speedruns

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Simbacca wrote...

This is what passes for 5-star 8-page MP discussion these days?! Jesus, if it's not threads crying about or for every little balance update, it's pure circlejerk threads like this (also the "troll" threads).

It's sad to say, since there's so much more potential for in depth build and tactic discussions with ME3's co-op mode, but official mass effect forums had higher quality strategy discussion before MP was ever introduced.

Those threads exist, they're just old. Cyonan has spreadsheets that give specific weapon data, which enemies spawn on which waves, information about spawn mechanics, and another spreadsheet for enemy damage/health/armor/barrier/shield values (I think he put stagger threshold values on there too). People discussed speedrunning strategies long, long ago, and they still work. People still occasionally discuss builds, but what's there to say beyond "Yeah, good build," or "What about this one instead?"

There isn't much discussion left to be had about tactics and how to play the game, because it's all been done, and there's just not a lot of follow-up. To find it, there's a helpful lil search feature that you can use.

What's left to talk about besides balance, the horrible quality of most PUGs, and general 'coolstorybro' stuff (including individual player skill)?

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I've played with all three, I think, but if I had to take just one person it would be Ashen but only because he rocks the GI as hard as I do. Nothing like two or more mastered GIs running through a match. Utter carnage.

I'd also like to take Gollum and Nate for World GI Domination.

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Ashen Earth is God. Since there is only one God, I have to assume the other two are mortal. This would then appear to be an easy choice, but it actually isn't. For who am I to speak of having GOD on MY team? I'm pretty sure just the thought breaks several Commandments.

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I'm staying loyal to the one I've played well over 100 games with, and who was a big part of me starting to consistently play Gold back in early summer. Oh, now I'm getting mushy.

Seriously though, the recent trend toward threads about people rather than the game on this forum makes me concerned about the future of the game itself. It's also a bit mortifying.

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CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Ashen Earth is God. Since there is only one God, I have to assume the other two are mortal. This would then appear to be an easy choice, but it actually isn't. For who am I to speak of having GOD on MY team? I'm pretty sure just the thought breaks several Commandments.


He's mortal... I've seen him die, once (Banshee). It ended up with me soloing wave 3... and burning a bunch of rockets to get the stupid drone to move across Hydra (dead randoms). It was... an anomoly.