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[longgamma]

It is all in jest. PC gaming has it advantages, so does consoles. The console guys dont have to live with the EA servers.

Also Xbox comrades have always helped the community complete all those weekend events! So they do all the heavy hitting in the game!

[Dokteur Kill]

PC has a gradual curve that requires constant tweaking and maintenance to keep up with technology.

Not really. That's an outdated myth.

With game development slowed down by consoles, it's not really a problem to play games on a 5 year old desktop (I last upgraded my PC in late 2007, and only now has it reached the point where I'm planning on upgrading again - and Lightroom has more to do with that than any game).

[Striker93175]

Why do PC players say they are the master race?

#1 They have a far smaller player base than consoles and therefore need to try to tell themselves this to feel better about their choice. (joke)

#2 Superior cheating. Hex editing, INI file editing, macros, aim bots, packet editing, etc. (serious.  okay xbox has missile glitches but the things a person can do on a pc is staggering).

#3 When it comes to shooters and headshots, it so simple a 5 yr old can do it. Put your mouse over the head and click.(cant deny it.  and I dont know about you but I can click fast and move that mouse with pin point accuracy.  g/f comes in while surfing certain sites lemme tell you!  can click those Xs like nobodys joke.)

#4 They get to brag about their hardware and frame rate… even though the majority of multi-platform games are dumbed down to the current gen console hardware so they port. This is usually countered by “oh, particle physics… you can see the dust” or counter with things like “less responsive and dumbed down the AI” but in reality when all you have to do is click on a target versus you know, use a controller and actually aim… you need to make it harder somehow cuz well see point 3

#5 Cost effective. This is where IMHO they do win. Steam/Valve. Digital copies of games are just friggin cheap man. Buddy is a PC gamer and when steam rolls out sales he can pick up 10 great titles for like no joke $15 with all DLC included and as a freebie bonus for being a loyal customer 2 additional games free.

Modifié par Striker93175, 06 novembre 2012 - 01:42 .

[regack]

Try developing a game on a console... lemme know how that works out.

Also... I play on the PC  but I also own an Xbox



... and don't forget to vote (if you're in the US, and you can)... it's like paying for your right to complain  

[Skullheart]

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

Because they think that pointing and clicking at an enemy is much superior to using a trigger :3

Your words are as empty as your future. We are the vanguard of your outdate. This exchange is over...

[DAN1EL86]

I work on a computer for a minimum of 8 hours a day. When I get home, I want to sit on my couch. So, it comes down what works best for you.

Last I saw, all three systems run Mass Effect 3 successfully. Enough with the nerd rage/fanboy stuff.

[AlienSpaceBats]

Constant Motion wrote...

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

Because:
open source, mods, freeware, upgradeable, emulation, also possible to fry small eggs on a gfx card gpu. Also consoles have very short lives and become worthless in around 5 years.

Or, to look at it from another angle, they have a fair bit of longevity, because they stay up to date for five.

PC has a gradual curve that requires constant tweaking and maintenance to keep up with technology. Your drivers aren't going to last five years. My laptop hasn't stayed up-to-date for two. I bought it in 2008, by 2010 I was being told my operating system couldn't handle new software upgrades. A PC gamer has to tailor-make a console for their games. An Xbox gamer receives them tailor-made for their console. We have to buy new hardware every five years... but, you know? I still play my Playstation 2. A console doesn't die the second a new one comes out. I think they're pretty sound investments, all told - but I do get where you're coming from. You've got more control over a PC. Modding must be great fun. That's practically an entire subculture in itself, turns a Fallout game from a narrative into a canvas.

My point about longevity was admittedly a bad one, I have a PS2 and PS3; and play both a lot. The PS3 only has a couple of years left at most before the next-gen Orbis comes along. This saddens me.

It's silly arguing seriously anyway, all platforms have their good and bad points.

[Klokos]

Striker93175 wrote...


#3 When it comes to shooters and headshots, it so simple a 5 yr old can do it. Put your mouse over the head and click.

#4 They get to brag about their hardware and frame rate… even though the majority of multi-platform games are dumbed down to the current gen console hardware so they port. This is usually countered by “oh, particle physics… you can see the dust” or counter with things like “less responsive and dumbed down the AI” but in reality when all you have to do is click on a target versus you know, use a controller and actually aim… you need to make it harder somehow cuz well see point 3

 So using less efficient input method is skill ?

Striker93175 wrote...


#5 Cost effective. This is where IMHO they do win. Steam/Valve. Digital copies of games are just friggin cheap man. Buddy is a PC gamer and when steam rolls out sales he can pick up 10 great titles for like no joke $15 with all DLC included and as a freebie bonus for being a loyal customer 2 additional games free.

>Steam
>Cheap

 AHAHAHAHA, they keep ****ing customer with high prices especially if you are european or Australian, in my country it's most of the time cheaper to buy a physical copy than a game on Steam. Sales just makes up for all the times Steam **** us over.

[Tankattack117]

SexyGeth wrote...

PC:Superior Reflexes, Communication and Determination.
Console:Missile Glitching.

PC has a missile glitch too, people just wont say how to do it.......

[DeckardWasAReplicant]

Ive been a console gamer because I grew up with them. Nintendo to SNES to Playstations and now Xbox's. But Wolfenstien 3D is still one of my favorite games ever. Is PC gaming better, Yes probably but its whatever makes you happy. Some of the greatest games ever made, Mario 3 to Super Metroid happen on consoles. Not to say PC doesnt have greatest games IE Wolfenstien 3D like I said earlier.

[78stonewobble]

Pc upgrading had slowed considerably in the last few years.

I'm still chuggin along with a core duo e8600 and an old gtx 260. Runs... Decently enough for most games and I still quite often have better graphics than the consoles.

However my reason to stay pc was more a question of SPACE! As it is I only use a pc. With a console I'd also have to find room for that, a big ass tvscreen and yet still a pc for internet usage/work.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

what is master race actually?

i mean in the term on console or PC

[bydoritos]

inb4lock


also
it's not all of us PC players that say this.
people need to realize that the "PC master race" was a term originaly created to insult and joke about the PC gamers, but some people are stupid and use as their motto.

[Zorinho20_CRO]

stu_ wrote...

My Peripherals cost me more than an xbox..

Need i say more?

Damn Razer:D
And I don´t need extra heating,´cos my crossfire do all the work.

[Tankattack117]

DeckardWasAReplicant wrote...

Ive been a console gamer because I grew up with them. Nintendo to SNES to Playstations and now Xbox's. But Wolfenstien 3D is still one of my favorite games ever. Is PC gaming better, Yes probably but its whatever makes you happy. Some of the greatest games ever made, Mario 3 to Super Metroid happen on consoles. Not to say PC doesnt have greatest games IE Wolfenstien 3D like I said earlier.

And Mass Effect 

[Nogs28]

Constant Motion wrote...

AlienSpaceBats wrote...

Because:
open source, mods, freeware, upgradeable, emulation, also possible to fry small eggs on a gfx card gpu. Also consoles have very short lives and become worthless in around 5 years.

Or, to look at it from another angle, they have a fair bit of longevity, because they stay up to date for five.

PC has a gradual curve that requires constant tweaking and maintenance to keep up with technology. Your drivers aren't going to last five years. My laptop hasn't stayed up-to-date for two. I bought it in 2008, by 2010 I was being told my operating system couldn't handle new software upgrades. A PC gamer has to tailor-make a console for their games. An Xbox gamer receives them tailor-made for their console. We have to buy new hardware every five years... but, you know? I still play my Playstation 2. A console doesn't die the second a new one comes out. I think they're pretty sound investments, all told - but I do get where you're coming from. You've got more control over a PC. Modding must be great fun. That's practically an entire subculture in itself, turns a Fallout game from a narrative into a canvas.

I don't think there's such thing as a best format... but the five year thing is as much a strength as a weakness. Plus, if you sit a year or so behind the curve, you can treat yourself to a bunch of discounts. Ace!

This makes me laugh, you may have been able to get away with that comment in the WinXP days, but not now.  My pc is five years old, and still plays ME3/BF3 at high detail.  Especially with Windows 7 being as great as and better than XP with drivers and staying up to date, with default settings, you have to actively deny updates.  

It doesn't cost much to build a gaming pc (notice I say BUILD, NOT BUY), roughly equivilant to the elite super awesome pro edition of the gaming system of your choice at release.  When hardware starts becoming old, we don't have to buy an entire new system, we can just upgrade some ram, video card, cpu (if in same socket), or just a new cpu/mobo combo.

We as the PC master race also like to multitask, if for some unfortunate instance we go down, we have alt+tab.  Some of us that are even more awesome than awesomeness itself have two or more monitors and multitask while playing.  No fiddling with remotes to check a tv channel, change imputs, just alt+tab or look to the right or left.

Also, its only with a PC that something as bad ass as this could be attempted.  www.youtube.com/watch

[Heldarion]

Tankattack117 wrote...

SexyGeth wrote...

PC:Superior Reflexes, Communication and Determination.
Console:Missile Glitching.

PC has a missile glitch too, people just wont say how to do it.......

Funny though, apparently many people on Xbox use missile glitch and it's possible on PC too, but nobody does it? I'll leave you with that.

[Impius]

I stopped playing console as soon I had my first job and my own flat. So, PC player since 1997, since I was 18.

I heard, nowadays people stay at home with parents until they are 30 or older? (Consolegamers? )

Oh, and on PC u don't need a missile glitch. If u change some stuff on an ini-file, u can make any weapon 1-hit-kill, you also can change settings to earn more than 300000 Credits per round, etc, bla bla. PC is cheaters paradise regarding ME3 MP. In this case, ME3-MP sucks a bit on PC.

[d_nought]

A PC Master race thread and it takes Lord Sirian more than an hour to reply? Slow day today.

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

PC players claim to be the master gaming race because they can cheat the easiest. Kind of why I stopped playing on PC when it came to gaming.

[BridgeBurner]

chipsandwich wrote...

A PC Master race thread and it takes Lord Sirian more than an hour to reply? Slow day today.

I think you just made my day.

Is it bad that I searched through this thread multiple times looking for Sirian's post before dejectedly realising he hadn't posted anything condescending or sardonic yet? 

Modifié par Annomander, 06 novembre 2012 - 01:57 .

[ThatGuyThatPlaysThisGame]

Heldarion wrote...

Tankattack117 wrote...

SexyGeth wrote...

PC:Superior Reflexes, Communication and Determination.
Console:Missile Glitching.

PC has a missile glitch too, people just wont say how to do it.......

Funny though, apparently many people on Xbox use missile glitch and it's possible on PC too, but nobody does it? I'll leave you with that.

Why do the PC cheaters need to missile glitch when they can alter ini files and have 1 hit kill bottomless clip avengers 

[Striker93175]

Klokos wrote...

Striker93175 wrote...


#3 When it comes to shooters and headshots, it so simple a 5 yr old can do it. Put your mouse over the head and click.

#4 They get to brag about their hardware and frame rate… even though the majority of multi-platform games are dumbed down to the current gen console hardware so they port. This is usually countered by “oh, particle physics… you can see the dust” or counter with things like “less responsive and dumbed down the AI” but in reality when all you have to do is click on a target versus you know, use a controller and actually aim… you need to make it harder somehow cuz well see point 3

 So using less efficient input method is skill ?

Striker93175 wrote...


#5 Cost effective. This is where IMHO they do win. Steam/Valve. Digital copies of games are just friggin cheap man. Buddy is a PC gamer and when steam rolls out sales he can pick up 10 great titles for like no joke $15 with all DLC included and as a freebie bonus for being a loyal customer 2 additional games free.

>Steam
>Cheap

 AHAHAHAHA, they keep ****ing customer with high prices especially if you are european or Australian, in my country it's most of the time cheaper to buy a physical copy than a game on Steam. Sales just makes up for all the times Steam **** us over.

When you can use two thumbs to aim, with y axis inverted, and land constant headshots versus point and click wuith a mouse... yes. 

And I don't know how it is out of the US but my friend is friggin cheap when it comes to well, pretty much everything lol.  His steam game library is HUGE he was telling me a few months back of one deal he got with 50 titles for $15.  I dont know man. $15 is barely 1 decent used game @ gamestop for a physical copy. 

Modifié par Striker93175, 06 novembre 2012 - 02:01 .

[nSquared75]

It pretty much has to do with development of multiplatform games along with the whole console vs. PC argument. For some time, the PC was always a luxury gaming devices. Doom shared a lot of responsibility and spearheaded the FPS genre while consoles were were used as an attempt to bring the arcade experience to home. Consoles back then, were usually always better at rendering 2D sprites due to dedicated hardware and development while such games were always "ported" to the PC from console code. In many ways, you can say that the PC wasn't given proper support for such games but, nobody cared.

With FPS and networked based games REALLY taking hold and, the PC conquered for obvious reasons. With the arcade scene basically dead and multiplayer/FPS/3D games gaining popularity; consoles began getting ports of PC games.Developers have done well in trying to close the gap by developing some FPS game such as Halo, etc soley for console to prove that they could deliver the same experience. In some ways, yes.

Lets face it. Consoles will always be behind the curve. It's a piece of dedicated hardware that developers have adjust and learn over a period of time so, the full capabilities are often displayed years down the road. Not to mention the inability to be upgraded outside of storage capacity means the PC will always be faster and, developers will constantly pushing the limits with titles that except the capabilities of current consoles. How long have developers been attempting an MMO?

Do I have to even discuss the UI? This is the dawn of FPS/MMO games and consoles still remain limited as far as UI's go.With just sticking with FPS style games, the genre was built around the mouse and keyboard. The speed and precision one gets out of such a combo has yet to even be matched on the console. While I love analog interfaces, converting analog to digital is a feat that has only been emulated; while the PC built for digital interfaces can do analog just fine.

These are mainly opinions and experience gathered throughout my gaming history. I've done both consoles and PC. Currently, I only do consoles because, my days of building trophy gaming machines have been over for some time. I go months at a time without playing so, keeping up with the hardware became an expense that I didn't feel worthy. I can say that I spent less money on PC games due to community mods, etc. It's amazing how a game on the PC can totally be refreshed by a good mod.

On an end note, better games are always going to be dependent on the developer. "Good" developers are usually going to work with the platform that better shows their work with as little overhead as possible. The PC will always have that advantage. The envelopes for software and hardware are always being pushed for the PC which practically leaves a new console to be old before it's released.

Sorry for the novel...

Modifié par nSquared75, 06 novembre 2012 - 02:02 .