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thats1evildude wrote...

I'd rather have Lord Seeker Lambert. He seems like my kind of guy. :P


I'm sorry that Cole killed him then;)

Okay, about Cole being a killer. What he did is referred to as "Mercy killings"dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Cole
Besides, Fenris is a liked character in DAII and he bloody killed the people protecting him... poor fog warriors... Everyone in dragon age is a murderer. The only one I felt him taking pleasure in killing was Lambert. Besides that factor never stopped anyone from loving Zevran?;)

I don't know if he is quite as broody as Fenris and Anders. He more seemed frightened and lost than anything else to me. I geuss I thought more people felt sorry for him, but only time will tell I guess:)

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Beerfish wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I'd rather have Lord Seeker Lambert. He seems like my kind of guy. :P


Lambert and the Red haired Mage (whos name I forget) were the most consistent and sensible people in that book.


:o I must have been reading a different one then. From my perspective they were both on the brink of insanity... then again I can never get myself to kill Anders in DAII, so I am hardly one to critisize:)

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Why would I want a Demon Serial Killer in my party?

He sounds lame and annoying, so unless I am doing my "worst possible play through' he will not survive my first encounter.

Also Anders is a made as a House full of cut snakes. He reminds me of the Black Hand, who started WW1, purely selfish people with no concern for lives/ whishes of others. 

Modifié par Ausstig, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:53 .


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Cole has so much potential, it would be crazy not to make him a companion or at least a major character. As for being a romance, I'd be ecstatic if he was but I could just as easily see him not being romanceable. I wouldn't complain if the writers think that he's better off without one.

Modifié par Kazanth, 06 novembre 2012 - 08:52 .


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cowoline wrote...
I'm sorry that Cole killed him then;)

Okay, about Cole being a killer. What he did is referred to as "Mercy killings"dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Cole
Besides, Fenris is a liked character in DAII and he bloody killed the people protecting him... poor fog warriors... Everyone in dragon age is a murderer. The only one I felt him taking pleasure in killing was Lambert. Besides that factor never stopped anyone from loving Zevran?;)

I don't know if he is quite as broody as Fenris and Anders. He more seemed frightened and lost than anything else to me. I geuss I thought more people felt sorry for him, but only time will tell I guess:)


Lulzies I'd bet cold hard cash money on the fact that Lambert is not dead. Us not "seeing" him die makes it relatively easy to explain his prescence should he crop up again. Which I bet cold hard cash money he will. Cold hard cash money. xp

Also, I like Cole, he seems magnificently interesting and has the potential to be my favorite companion/LI ever, even though at this point in time that is quite a stretch, I know. But he uses the "mercy killing" thing as a justification. He kills them for selfish purposes, ie to keep from "fading". Mind you I WOULD actually call them mercy killing but I don't think Cole believes that himself, it's just something he tells himself to assuage his consience.

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Ausstig wrote...

Why would I want a Demon Serial Killer in my party?

He sounds lame and annoying, so unless I am doing my "worst possible play through' he will not survive my first encounter.

Also Anders is a made as a House full of cut snakes. He reminds me of the Black Hand, who started WW1, purely selfish people with no concern for lives/ whishes of others. 


Which is why selfish Anders heals people for free in the undercity? :P


But if you dislike the idea so much I will hope, for your enjoyment of the game, that Cole will not be included:)

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I've read the book and to me cole was kind of like the little blood mage brother like Jown was. Then he turn into this blood loving ghost or demon in the end that is somehow to strong for head seeker to send back to fade.

I could see where Cole could fit into the story line with the seeker playing a big part in the war. But, I see him more a secondary character. If Cole was used I would see him as a way to bring a more mojor characters from the book like Rhys and Evangeline.

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I hear he's a merry old soul.

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Let me paragon hug Cole! Better yet, stick him in my party. And then I'll paragon hug him ^^

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cowoline wrote...

thats1evildude wrote...

I'd rather have Lord Seeker Lambert. He seems like my kind of guy. :P


I'm sorry that Cole killed him then;)



We don't know if Lambert is dead. And even that doubt is only for players that had both Shale and Wynne survive origins.

I am pretty sure Lambert will be in Dragon Age 3.

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And if you are at full rivalry/disapproval, he "visits" your char during night and you have to look in his eyes.

Modifié par Bfler, 07 novembre 2012 - 08:05 .


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I love how all these people who haven't even read Asunder are just writing Cole off as a crazy, boring demon. Seriously people, either read the book or shut up. There is a reason why those of us who read the book are intrigued by the idea of him being in the game.

Also, Lambert is dead. Cole was sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat telling him he was going to kill him. Thinking he'll be fine and dandy is on the same level of derp as thinking Duncan is alive.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

I love how all these people who haven't even read Asunder are just writing Cole off as a crazy, boring demon. Seriously people, either read the book or shut up. There is a reason why those of us who read the book are intrigued by the idea of him being in the game.

Also, Lambert is dead. Cole was sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat telling him he was going to kill him. Thinking he'll be fine and dandy is on the same level of derp as thinking Duncan is alive.


I read the book.And Cole is crazy boring demon.

And Lambert is not dead, it only happens if Wynne and Shale survie Origins (None of my playtrhoughs btw). Even Gaider said it himself, that if they died, Assunder never happen for those players. Meaning that Cole is still haunting Mage Tower cells.

Modifié par Chaos Lord Malek, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:45 .


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I read the book.And Cole is crazy boring demon.


This.

I just hope he is not forced upon me. I'd be fine with just killing him and move on. Or tell him to go fry an egg and never ever come back again. Although I'd prefer the former.

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Sorry guys but demon and boring are antonyms. HTH.

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Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

I love how all these people who haven't even read Asunder are just writing Cole off as a crazy, boring demon. Seriously people, either read the book or shut up. There is a reason why those of us who read the book are intrigued by the idea of him being in the game.

Also, Lambert is dead. Cole was sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat telling him he was going to kill him. Thinking he'll be fine and dandy is on the same level of derp as thinking Duncan is alive.


I read the book.And Cole is crazy boring demon.


Derp. You don't even know if Cole is a demon.

And Lambert is not dead, it only happens if Wynne and Shale survie Origins (None of my playtrhoughs btw). Even Gaider said it himself, that if they died, Assunder never happen for those players. Meaning that Cole is still haunting Mage Tower cells.


Gaider also said that they do what they want to accomodate story over those sorts of choices. Killed Leliana? Doesn't matter, she's alive and part of the story of DA2.
A character so likely to be so integral to the plot of DA3 wouldn't be optional. That would be like Loghain being optional(in the hypothetical case of games occuring before Origins obviously). Lambert ordered the Seekers break away from the Chantry just before his encounter with Cole. Lambert will not be there for some players and not there for others.

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Filament wrote...

I hear he's a merry old soul.


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Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

BrotherWarth wrote...

I love how all these people who haven't even read Asunder are just writing Cole off as a crazy, boring demon. Seriously people, either read the book or shut up. There is a reason why those of us who read the book are intrigued by the idea of him being in the game.

Also, Lambert is dead. Cole was sitting on his chest with a knife to his throat telling him he was going to kill him. Thinking he'll be fine and dandy is on the same level of derp as thinking Duncan is alive.


I read the book.And Cole is crazy boring demon.

And Lambert is not dead, it only happens if Wynne and Shale survie Origins (None of my playtrhoughs btw). Even Gaider said it himself, that if they died, Assunder never happen for those players. Meaning that Cole is still haunting Mage Tower cells.


 I think that even without Wynne and Shale the events of Asunder would have still happened, maybe just not how it exactly went down in the book. The situation in the Circle: Orlais, was already falling apart. There is a good chance Rhys was already helping Cole, there is a good chance a meeting between the College of Magi was still called.

The only bits that are apt to change are the parts that directly involve Wynne or Shale. So a certain character may remain dead and thats about it. Cole may still be newly aware of his demonic status.

In fact, in the Varric dialogue with Cassandra he says something about the Chantry falling to peices, circles rebelling and the Templar order no longer siding with the Chantry... which doesn't happen in real time till the end of Asunder when Lambert himself writes the Grande Cleric to tell her he is disgusted by her involvment and "screw you, I'm going home (to crack down on mages) and I am taking all my toys with me!", so probably a lot that went down in Asunder will stay static, with standins for Wynne and Shale and uh, more death because the lack of super spirit healer.

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I just love how people don't want Cole because his a) A killer B) A demon

News flash everyone, all your companions are killers.

Secondly, people are writing off Cole but people just jump at the idea of Desire demons? What makes Cole boring and Desire demon so interesting? Oh wait, desire demons have ******. Never mind, I guess.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 07 novembre 2012 - 05:07 .


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Yeah, yeah, they're all killers. I'm fine with that kind of killers. But my character had to be plain stupid or utterly insane to tolerate Cole's presence since he's hardly controllable.

Also, lol at desire demon companion. Why does that not surprise me..

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Cole didn't go around killing anything that moved. He sensed when people wanted to die and killed them. He also thought that that was the only way to save himself from fading away. He now knows that he won't fade away.

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BrotherWarth wrote...

Cole didn't go around killing anything that moved. He sensed when people wanted to die and killed them. He also thought that that was the only way to save himself from fading away. He now knows that he won't fade away.


And he didn't kill the 3 templars in the underground below the circle tower?
I think a simple knockout would have been enough.

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How many Templars did Hawke kill?

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DarkKnightHolmes wrote...

I just love how people don't want Cole because his a) A killer B) A demon

News flash everyone, all your companions are killers.

Secondly, people are writing off Cole but people just jump at the idea of Desire demons? What makes Cole boring and Desire demon so interesting? Oh wait, desire demons have ******. Never mind, I guess.


******. Its all about ****** boy. ****** rule the world. If you don't understand that yet, i don't think you should even be on this boards, as they are for M rated game.

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I'd really like to see Cole in the game in some capacity, be it as an NPC or optional(?) companion (but make him a companion, yes?). As I see it he is far too interesting to let lie, for the lore incite he could provide if nothing else.

Modifié par Gwawr, 07 novembre 2012 - 07:31 .