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[Swagger7]

The only thing I want to do with Cole, is stab him. I hope that if he is a companion there's at least the option to not recruit him. If that's not an option, he's spending the whole game back at base.

[Massakkolia]

I would love to have Cole as a companion. He is a fascinating character in Asunder, and it's still not completely clear whether or not he's simply a demon or something else. I'm sure Bioware will offer a good range of options for us to react to Cole's actions. Those who dislike him probably have an opportunity to kill him (assuming that's possible) or turn him in to templars or something along those lines.

Frankly, the cast of Asunder was so strong that any of the new characters would make a fine companion. My only worry with book characters becoming game characters is redundancy. I don't want to hear about Asunder in DA3. Sure, there'll be some sort of summary of Asunder events but when my PC talks to Cole I, as the player, want to learn new things about him and not have him repeat things already revealed in the book.

I want the game to explore new aspects of the book characters while still making those characters rounded enough for those who never read the books or comics.

Modifié par Ria, 07 novembre 2012 - 08:30 .

[Bernhardtbr]

When I first saw the title of the thread somehow I´ve imagined Cole from Gears of War, using a 10 feet tall sword that could cut a truck in half.

[Ausstig]

cowoline wrote...

Ausstig wrote...

Why would I want a Demon Serial Killer in my party?

He sounds lame and annoying, so unless I am doing my "worst possible play through' he will not survive my first encounter.

Also Anders is a made as a House full of cut snakes. He reminds me of the Black Hand, who started WW1, purely selfish people with no concern for lives/ whishes of others. 

Which is why selfish Anders heals people for free in the undercity?


But if you dislike the idea so much I will hope, for your enjoyment of the game, that Cole will not be included:)

I don't care if he is included I just want the option to kill him or bring him into the fold. That way we all win.

As for Anders I was referring to the decision he will be remembered for, the bomb. 

[karushna5]

I like the idea of an anti Tevinter mage. Sounds like a great idea. Shows the seedy side of magery but at the same time hope for the darker aspects as well

[Farmfew]

I'd like Dorian to be my companion and LI too.

[Doctoglethorpe]

I hope you realize the Cole at the end was not the same person.

Either the original Cole's soul had been trapped in a limbo of sorts and passed on during the fight with Lambert to be replaced by the spirit (demon?) that helped him, or the Cole in the book was always just the spirit but the spirit was confused and during the fight remembered what it was (thus changing who it is, like an amnesiac suddenly remembering their past).

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I hope you realize the Cole at the end was not the same person.

Either the original Cole's soul had been trapped in a limbo of sorts and passed on during the fight with Lambert to be replaced by the spirit (demon?) that helped him, or the Cole in the book was always just the spirit but the spirit was confused and during the fight remembered what it was (thus changing who it is, like an amnesiac suddenly remembering their past).

Yes this exactly Doctor Moustache: we know the character during the whole book as Cole, but when the rogue jumps on Lamberts chest pinning him down to kill him during the last few pages of the book.  We learn that the person getting ready to kill Lambert  tells him about the real Cole's story and what happened to him. 

The real Cole died by negelect or horrible abuse at the hands of the Templars in the dungeons of the White Spire, by starvation or being beaten to death.  Whoever is getting ready to kill Lambert says that he/she held Cole's hand while he died.  Whoever this person is, was in the cell while the abuse or starvation of the real Cole was going on.  I think Lambert and the other Templars covered up what happened to the real Cole. So I don't believe that this person is the real Cole as a ghost/spirit/or even a demon-- nor has been throughout the entire book-- but this isn't revealed until the end of the book, that Cole isn't the real Cole. 

In the tunnels when we think that the Litany of Andralla worked on this Cole person, but it could have been a rogue fading into the shadows to get away when the female templar joins the fight.
 
I've always had it in the back of my mind that this person who took on Cole's persona during the entire book is a person who actually represents our missing Wardens or even Hawkes.  This would explain what happened to our missing Warden and Hawke. 

During the scene with Lambert at the end of the book , this is a real twist on what is revealed.

I think the reason that Cole is able to fade in/out and look similar to a spirit is due to this person being a rogue and they have the ghost abilities of a rogue.  A rogue warden would have these capabilities.  A warden would last longer in a cell being starved or beaten due to their stamina abilities.  So for me this person is a Warden weather this is our missing Warden or not.  

Correct me if I'm wrong it's been at least a year since I read the book, but wasn't the killer the red haired mage that was Rhy's friend who was doing the killings?  Or bloodmagic was used on Rhys to get him to do the killings? 

I'd love for Cole to be in the new game.  He/she is an extremely interesting character. 

Modifié par ElvaliaRavenHart, 27 décembre 2012 - 06:09 .

[Noviere]

I literally just finished re-reading the book, and what Cole is exactly is still a mystery.

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

The real Cole died by negelect or horrible abuse at the hands of the Templars in the dungeons of the White Spire, by starvation or being beaten to death.  Whoever is getting ready to kill Lambert says that he/she held Cole's hand while he died.  Whoever this person is, was in the cell while the abuse or starvation of the real Cole was going on.  I think Lambert and the other Templars covered up what happened to the real Cole. So I don't believe that this person is the real Cole as a ghost/spirit/or even a demon-- nor has been throughout the entire book-- but this isn't revealed until the end of the book, that Cole isn't the real Cole.

I don't think Lambert had anything to do with the death of the real Cole, as Lambert wasn't in charge of the White Spire until after the murders started happening.

In the tunnels when we think that the Litany of Andralla worked on this Cole person, but it could have been a rogue fading into the shadows to get away when the female templar joins the fight.

The Litany isn't what made Cole disappear... Quite the opposite in fact as it's what dispelled his invisibility ability and revealed him and Rhys to Lambert. They fight, and then Lambert reveals that the only thing the Litany can do is dispel demonic influence, which means Cole is a demon. Cole then fades away, as his understanding of himself falls apart and he has a bit of a breakdown.
 

Correct me if I'm wrong it's been at least a year since I read the book, but wasn't the killer the red haired mage that was Rhy's friend who was doing the killings?  Or bloodmagic was used on Rhys to get him to do the killings? 

Adrian kills Pharond(the Tranquil who was cured) and frames Rhys in order to force Wynne into action. But she didn't kill the other initiates. We still don't know exactly what happened there...

In the final chapter, Rhys tells Evangeline that he thinks he killed them, to which she responds, "I know. It doesn't change anything about you." This would support Lambert's theory(which makes sense, if you re-read it) that Cole was somehow unknowingly using Rhys to kill the initiates.

But who knows? It's left open to interpretation.

Modifié par Noviere, 02 janvier 2013 - 10:46 .