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Some Geth wrote...

Obama pulled ahead in the popular vote.

Trump can shut up now.

Exactly.

[ObserverStatus]

It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by McConnel over Benghazi.

Modifié par bobobo878, 07 novembre 2012 - 06:59 .

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greengoron89 wrote...
I'd like to think that someone else winning the election would've made a difference, but the truth is that was never going to happen. Romney was a weak candidate to pit against Obama much in the same way Kerry was terrible candidate to pit against Bush - both times the country "decided" to stick with the devil they know. The government gets what it wants, and they never intended for Romney or anyone else to win the election. It's all just a sideshow to make people think their votes and opinions matter.

And that's why nothing happens nowadays. You really think Govement has that much control? No my friend, if they do have that contorl it's only because you believe them to. Their humans. You know how many **** ups have happened in history? American Goverment conspiricies are nothing but ****hole apathy.

[Volus Warlord]

Well that is one way to grossly inaccurate self-image. I guess we are done here.

[Volus Warlord]

greengoron89 wrote...

Well I can certainly see why BSN has a rule against political discussions - lots of animosity in here. I'm kinda surprised it's been open this long. The mods must be on a break... or are just sitting back and watching for teh lulz.

I am, after all, the Plant Manager for Stanley Woo's Vitamin RI production. 

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bobobo878 wrote...

It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

Yup. It was funny hearing the dudes on fox news arguing with their own decision people about Obama not wining Ohio. Oh, fox news you funny people.

Anyway the problem is the Republicans in the house are too concerned with party to actually look at the whole picture. Parties are a huge problem nowadays either way as matter of fact.

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

Ugh. Politics and religion bring a lot of hate and negativity. Yet another reason why I tend to ignore it. I've had too many endless debates over the nonsense, and it doesnt change. You cannot change the world nor the views of others single handedly. The election is over. Move on.

Take care.

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

bobobo878 wrote...

It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

Anything to keep himself from working on the economy.

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greengoron89 wrote...
Yes, they really do.

I'm telling you they don't in America. Especially with our two party setup. It's almost impossible for there to be some Goverment Group running everything.

Modifié par Laser Beam, 07 novembre 2012 - 06:44 .

[GodWood]

lol democracy.

[TheBlackBaron]

bobobo878 wrote...

It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

You know, I'd temporarily forgotten about that.

Bush pretty much won against all odds in 2004, certainly against historical factors. Obama has utterly defied history even more so, and my back of the evenlope calculation says his margin of victory is 0.3%. 

Bush then had Katrina, and that led directly to 2006. Sandy and Benghazi are rapidly turning into that for Obama. 

What will 2014 look like? 

[Inquisitor Recon]

KT Chong wrote...

All the "Obama and Romney are the same" talks are BS.

Even if you think the economic outcomes of having a Democratic president or a Republican one are the same, (I do not think they are completely the same, but let's say they are,) the SOCIAL ISSUES presented by the two parties are definitively different.

Let's say it does not make any different to the economy whether Obama or Romney wins, it will make a different in the social issues of:

Abortion right: if you believe getting pregnant is a "gift from god", and women can only get pregnant from "legitimate rape" and their bodies would "shut down" and prevent pregnancy from "illegitmate rape", then go ahead and vote Republicans.

Gay marriage: Christians do NOT have a monopoly on marriage. The Judea-Christian faith did NOT invent marriage. Chinese and Indian civilizations had the marriage institution even before the Judea-Christan faith were created, so marriage has NOTHING to do with God.

Immigration: Deporting people who were brought into the country as children -- and therefore did NOT commit any crime as they were just children -- and grew up here is just cruel and inhumane.

The rise of Christian fundamentalism in America, which is associated with the Republican party.

Wars in the Middle East:  Republicans LOVE wars and LOVE killing the Muslims.  Do you know what really got America into the economic hole?  It's the ****ing endless wars.

Income Inequality: Republicans follow the Cult of Ayn Rand and believe income inequality is a good thing, that wealthy people should lead and poor people should just shut up and roll over.  Ron Paul is along this line of thinking; he differs from other Republicans because he does not like wars, but he is still a follower of the Ayn Rand cult.

So, even if you think the economic outcomes of Obama or Romney winning are the same, the social outcomes are definitely NOT the same.

It's rare to see somebody who eats up all of the lies the left has to offer.

Abortion is not an important issue in the face of the economy, wars, etc. and if you're going to judge the entire Republican party on the words of two crazies, I rather wish you wouldn't vote at all.

Gay marriage is also not an important issue. Politicans and judges have no place implementing a "revised" defintion of marriage without the consent of the people (as a whole) they are supposed to represent. There is no reason for "gay marriage" instead of civil unions if the people vote to allow such.

On Immigration: If a person wants to be a citizen of this country they should follow the laws including becoming a citizen through legal means. That's that.

The supposed rise of Christian fundamentalism in America, is a myth fabricated to scare people like you.

Income equality you say? Welcome to the real world. Not everybody is going to get paid the same. I work my 40 hours a week and earn my paycheck. That money should belong to me, not the government, the poor, or the rich. Of course I recognize the need for taxes to pay for important stuff like infrastructure and defense, I think some social programs are good, but you want widespread redistribution of wealth? How far are you willing to go comrade?

Modifié par ReconTeam, 07 novembre 2012 - 06:56 .

[DiebytheSword]

bobobo878 wrote...

It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

Impeachment is a fool's errand with the Predsident's party in control of the Senate.

As to your earlier comment, Obama has plenty of say on many things, and has actively stated that he will circumvent gridlock in congress whenever possible by ruling via fiat.  So we can continue to see Oil companies refused drilling permits, coal raked over its own, and spending dictated by him no matter what a republican house cuts.  I hope you like 4$ a gallon gas and rising electric prices, because those are just two immediate results of the first 18 months I see.

I'm not even going to get started with what he said to the Russian president over a hot mic that was supposed to be private.

[Weak Sauce Hype]

Lenimph wrote...

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PAHAHAHAHA

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greengoron89 wrote...

Laser Beam wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...
Yes, they really do.

I'm telling you they don't in America. Especially with our two party setup. It's almost impossible for their to be some Goverment Group running everything.

No, not a single group - no one entity is gonna shout "jump!" and just have every single government employee and organization say "how high?" A "let not the left hand know what the right is doing" approach is necessary.

But I'm telling you, if there's something the government wants, it gets done. Conversely, if there's something they don't want to happen, it won't happen. Setbacks? Sure. Screwups? Absolutely. Plenty of both all throughout history. But on the whole, things get done that need to be, and undesired things are shot down or avoided.

And that's how it will continue to be.

But then having Romeny in the house would've made more sense for a controlling Goverment. Especially since he was so close.

[ObserverStatus]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

You know, I'd temporarily forgotten about that.
Bush pretty much won against all odds in 2004, certainly against historical factors. Obama has utterly defied history even more so, and my back of the evenlope calculation says his margin of victory is 0.3%. 
Bush then had Katrina, and that led directly to 2006. Sandy and Benghazi are rapidly turning into that for Obama. 
What will 2014 look like? 

Exactly the same as 2011 and 2012, another year of posturing and inaction on both sides.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

ReconTeam wrote...

KT Chong wrote...

All the "Obama and Romney are the same" talks are BS.

Even if you think the economic outcomes of having a Democratic president or a Republican one are the same, (I do not think they are completely the same, but let's say they are,) the SOCIAL ISSUES presented by the two parties are definitively different.

Let's say it does not make any different to the economy whether Obama or Romney wins, it will make a different in the social issues of:

Abortion right: if you believe getting pregnant is a "gift from god", and women can only get pregnant from "legitimate rape" and their bodies would "shut down" and prevent pregnancy from "illegitmate rape", then go ahead and vote Republicans.

Gay marriage: Christians do NOT have a monopoly on marriage. The Judea-Christian faith did NOT invent marriage. Chinese and Indian civilizations had the marriage institution even before the Judea-Christan faith were created, so marriage has NOTHING to do with God.

Immigration: Deporting people who were brought into the country as children -- and therefore did NOT commit any crime as they were just children -- and grew up here is just cruel and inhumane.

The rise of Christian fundamentalism in America, which is associated with the Republican party.

Wars in the Middle East:  Republicans LOVE wars and LOVE killing the Muslims.  Do you know what really got America into the economic hole?  It's the ****ing endless wars.

Income Inequality: Republicans follow the Cult of Ayn Rand and believe income inequality is a good thing, that wealthy people should lead and poor people should just shut up and roll over.  Ron Paul is along this line of thinking; he differs from other Republicans because he does not like wars, but he is still a follower of the Ayn Rand cult.

So, even if you think the economic outcomes of Obama or Romney winning are the same, the social outcomes are definitely NOT the same.

It's rare to see somebody who eats up all of the lies the left has to offer.

Abortion is not an important issue in the face of the economy, wars, etc. and if you're going to judge the entire Republican party on the words of two crazies, I rather wish you wouldn't vote at all.

Gay marriage is also not an important issue. Politicans and judges have no place implementing a "revised" defintion of marriage without the consent of the people (as a whole) they are supposed to represent. There is no reason for "gay marriage" instead of civil unions if the people vote to allow such.

On Immigration: If a person wants to be a citizen of this country they should follow the laws including becoming a citizen through legal means. That's that.

The supposed rise of Christian fundamentalism in America, is a myth fabricated to scare people like you.

Income equality you say? Welcome to the real world. Not everybody is going to get paid the same. I work my 40 hours a week and earn my paycheck. That money should belong to me, not the government, the poor, or the rich. Of course I recognize the need for taxes to pay for important stuff like infrastructure and defense, I think some social programs are good, but you want widespread redistribution of wealth? How far are you willing to go comrade?

Completely agree with this one... the most sensible comment on this topic.

My reaction to Obama won: Ah Craaap! Now we have our hope faded away to find a true solution to the Middle East difficulties. Many lives will be ruined in this 4 years...  

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

bobobo878 wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

bobobo878 wrote...
It's looking to be a good 4 years. Obama is probably going to spend the next 18 months defending himself from an impeachment trial spearheaded by Boehner over Benghazi.

You know, I'd temporarily forgotten about that.
Bush pretty much won against all odds in 2004, certainly against historical factors. Obama has utterly defied history even more so, and my back of the evenlope calculation says his margin of victory is 0.3%. 
Bush then had Katrina, and that led directly to 2006. Sandy and Benghazi are rapidly turning into that for Obama. 
What will 2014 look like? 

Exactly the same as 2011 and 2012, another year of posturing and inaction on both sides.

Maybe  the east coast will get pounded by another super storm, then Obama can swoop in and fix everything with his hopey changey machine.to remind us all of how great a pres he is.

[SlottsMachine]

All I'm seeing is people ****ing about Obama, curious as to why some of you think Romney would have been better? Or is it just a case of the the status quo isn't working, change for the sake of change or something along those lines?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

General Slotts wrote...

All I'm seeing is people ****ing about Obama, curious as to why some of you think Romney would have been better? Or is it just a case of the the status quo isn't working, change for the sake of change or something along those lines?

How about his own words?

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 07 novembre 2012 - 07:15 .