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You didn't have an excuse to use an awesome gun such as BW?

I am disappoint.

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OneTrueShot wrote...

What's that? A player that thought to user a sniper rifle on a headshot bonus character/powers?!

IMPOSSIBRU.

Wow, if that's what constitutes being a 'genius' these days, I may as well have invented teleportation, the cure for AIDS and the answer to world hunger.


FWIW, in my limited experience I don't think I've ever seen a t.sol carrying a sniper in game. Not saying it doesn't happen but it certainly isn't a common setup.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no veteran. I'm sure it's been done, but it's not exactly a rig that every mook and their mother has been trying out. So you might be coming on a little strong.

Bad day at work?

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BuckshotSamurai wrote...

@ UKStory: Don't you DARE speak of my Saber X in anything but hushed words and whispered praises to your Lord! Take back what you said, and I will consider your past record before passing judgement.

Also, will be expecting you Wednesday night to rock out with our........ new kits. You thought I was going there lol.


I'd like to do a stopwatch comparison with him to see if he can kill a Gold Geth Prime with his Paladin pistol faster than I can kill one with a Saber.... since he thinks the Paladin is better and all.

Let's put that stupid DPS number to the test... since on paper DPS is the greatest indicator of a weapons worth afterall... not in game performance.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 07 novembre 2012 - 12:52 .


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Why so much butthurt when a player gives credit to Stardusk's build? Unrecognized geniuses much?

Modifié par Lexa_D, 07 novembre 2012 - 01:00 .


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lightswitch wrote...

OneTrueShot wrote...

What's that? A player that thought to user a sniper rifle on a headshot bonus character/powers?!

IMPOSSIBRU.

Wow, if that's what constitutes being a 'genius' these days, I may as well have invented teleportation, the cure for AIDS and the answer to world hunger.


FWIW, in my limited experience I don't think I've ever seen a t.sol carrying a sniper in game. Not saying it doesn't happen but it certainly isn't a common setup.

Don't get me wrong, I'm no veteran. I'm sure it's been done, but it's not exactly a rig that every mook and their mother has been trying out. So you might be coming on a little strong.

Bad day at work?


You'll have to forgive me, I often forget basic logic is lost on most BSNers.

Taking a character that can hit hard with headshots with a weapon designed for headshots has pretty much been second nature to me since I started ME3 MP, it just amazes me how someone posts "HEY, A WEAPON MADE FOR HEADSHOTS IS GOOD ON A CHARACTER WITH HEADSHOT DAMAGE BONUSSES!" and all of a sudden, they're gods' gift to BSN.

Bad day at work? No. Frustrated with the amount of people that can't use their brain and have to rely on others to make obvious statements? Yes.

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Well, you could be an educator like Stardusk or be frustrated.

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Lexa_D wrote...

Well, you could be an educator like Stardusk or be frustrated.


I'm more a man of the obscure future than I am of the obfuscated present. ^_~

Modifié par OneTrueShot, 07 novembre 2012 - 01:55 .


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InvincibleHero wrote...

I prefer the saber and it doesn't disappoint. It has more shots than a three clip. The ROF boost makes it a sweet sounding death dealer.



My TS is usually armed with a Saber or Crusader. I hate the slow rate of fire and recoil of those weapons... and the TS all but solves the problems.

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I tried it but I wasn't impressed. It can certainly work, but I have better BW results with infiltrators. Marksman doesn't mesh well with how I approach the game.

As for the claim of "genius," let's just say that's a contested view.

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I think it bears repeating...stardusk didn't call himself a genius.

Just wanted to point it out, as some seem to be forming a negative opinion of him based on someone else's praise.

Must be a word for this effect...

"Tebow'd" perhaps?

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OneTrueShot wrote...

...all of a sudden, they're gods' gift to BSN...


There was nothing in the OP that even really implied this. He just thought it was a good build and decided to share. 

I'm going to guess you're too lazy to have actually read the post, and you're just knee jerking to what you assumed it contained based upon on the subject line.

Since you're so intelligent, maybe you should use a small portion of that huge brain of yours to try and read between the lines and actually understand the intent behind the things people write instead of just accepting them at face value. Fifty percent of the time dictionary definitions only tell half the story.

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i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 08 novembre 2012 - 07:52 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.


I think with this build Concussive Shot is better because of the low CD and consistent stagger effect.

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Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.


I think with this build Concussive Shot is better because of the low CD and consistent stagger effect.

 i still have 80ish waves of turian soldier to do, and ive never done a concussive shot build, i WILL try it just for this...
 im gonna skip proxy mine, i dont like running the turian solider without shields.
thanks for the suggestion, seriously. i was looking at concussive shot evolutions earlier, and wondering, will i ever use this?
any sound advice on how to spec concussive? ive never used it in mP with more than 3 points.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 08 novembre 2012 - 08:23 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.


I think with this build Concussive Shot is better because of the low CD and consistent stagger effect.

 i still have 80ish waves of turian soldier to do, and ive never done a concussive shot build, i WILL try it just for this...
 im gonna skip proxy mine, i dont like running the turian solider without shields.
thanks for the suggestion, seriously. i was looking at concussive shot evolutions earlier, and wondering, will i ever use this?
any sound advice on how to spec concussive? ive never used it in mP with more than 3 points.


If you max out weapon passives for 30% headshot/37.5% weapon damage then you must spec CC for force and damage, recharge, shredder. Shredder is key, you will be able to stagger Dragoons to set up headshots and it eats through barriers (phantoms, Collectors, etc.) Below the 600 N threshhold, which this seems to yield you will not be able to stop Dragoons, which I find useful. Often I hit CC to line up headshots as well.

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Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.


I think with this build Concussive Shot is better because of the low CD and consistent stagger effect.

 i still have 80ish waves of turian soldier to do, and ive never done a concussive shot build, i WILL try it just for this...
 im gonna skip proxy mine, i dont like running the turian solider without shields.
thanks for the suggestion, seriously. i was looking at concussive shot evolutions earlier, and wondering, will i ever use this?
any sound advice on how to spec concussive? ive never used it in mP with more than 3 points.


If you max out weapon passives for 30% headshot/37.5% weapon damage then you must spec CC for force and damage, recharge, shredder. Shredder is key, you will be able to stagger Dragoons to set up headshots and it eats through barriers (phantoms, Collectors, etc.) Below the 600 N threshhold, which this seems to yield you will not be able to stop Dragoons, which I find useful. Often I hit CC to line up headshots as well.

ok, one question about how YOU play this,
 do you use CS then fire your 3 shots, then use marksman to reload and RC as many shots as you can get off until MM is gone? Or do you use marksman as soon as you see a boss, then CS afterwards?
like i mentioned, i kept Reload cancelling with MM and not meaning to, so i need practice.
i was trying to tell myself to use B but kept hitting Y.
obviously the mechanics behnd using the bw with him are different than AR or shotgun.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 08 novembre 2012 - 08:32 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

i tried this, it was "ok". the gun is badass with him, but i wasnt using my proxy mine much and its weird teaching yourself not to reload the bw. im so used to quick reload cancelling with it with infiltrators it felt like i was throwing myself off. 
ill give credit where its due though, when all the stars align and you get those 6-9 six quick BW shots.. wow.
i think with practice i could use it better, but i prefer to use BW on other characters and ill stick with mostly rapid fire guns with him.
either way, thanks for the build it was fun to try just offering my results.


I think with this build Concussive Shot is better because of the low CD and consistent stagger effect.

 i still have 80ish waves of turian soldier to do, and ive never done a concussive shot build, i WILL try it just for this...
 im gonna skip proxy mine, i dont like running the turian solider without shields.
thanks for the suggestion, seriously. i was looking at concussive shot evolutions earlier, and wondering, will i ever use this?
any sound advice on how to spec concussive? ive never used it in mP with more than 3 points.


If you max out weapon passives for 30% headshot/37.5% weapon damage then you must spec CC for force and damage, recharge, shredder. Shredder is key, you will be able to stagger Dragoons to set up headshots and it eats through barriers (phantoms, Collectors, etc.) Below the 600 N threshhold, which this seems to yield you will not be able to stop Dragoons, which I find useful. Often I hit CC to line up headshots as well.

ok, one question about how YOU play this,
 do you use CS then fire your 3 shots, then use marksman to reload and RC as many shots as you can get off until MM is gone? Or do you use marksman as soon as you see a boss, then CS afterwards?
like i mentioned, i kept Reload cancelling with MM and not meaning to, so i need practice.
i was trying to tell myself to use B but kept hitting Y.
obviously the mechanics behnd using the bw with him are different than AR or shotgun.


I use CC mostly in clutch situations. Or if I know I won't be able to headshot a sprinting Dragoon (they are fast). Basically if I think I cannot get a shot without it or against Phantoms. Usually I guess CC, 3 shots, then Markmans for 6 shots.

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Off topic but out of curiousity when did MM start reloading a weapon? I used to love the T.Sol but haven't played him much recently and I'm sure I remember thinking

"if only MM reloaded a gun like AR does it would be amazing"

I took a break from the game after the earth dlc and only came back a week or two ago

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Greyfrogx wrote...

Off topic but out of curiousity when did MM start reloading a weapon? I used to love the T.Sol but haven't played him much recently and I'm sure I remember thinking

"if only MM reloaded a gun like AR does it would be amazing"

I took a break from the game after the earth dlc and only came back a week or two ago


Long time ago.

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I used to snipe with a Human Soldier+Widow (got bored with the Claymore) and it worked quite well.

The Tsol with his improved Marksman might be better suited for this, though.

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Two words: No dodge
/T.Soldier

Might be interesting with the Quarian Soldier though...

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Korjyan wrote...

Two words: No dodge
/T.Soldier

Might be interesting with the Quarian Soldier though...


Uhm, this has been tested and used my many players, it is very effective. No, dodge, unerheblich regarding his sniping skills.

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I don't doubt it works. But I will never play this character until he can dodge. Adding more Turians to the game with Jetpacks while leaving the other two untouched and still totally immobile is just totally stupid...

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BuckshotSamurai wrote...

@ UKStory: Don't you DARE speak of my Saber X in anything but hushed words and whispered praises to your Lord! Take back what you said, and I will consider your past record before passing judgement.

Also, will be expecting you Wednesday night to rock out with our........ new kits. You thought I was going there lol.


LIES! Your Saber X smells like stale cheetos! I'd rather use mah Eagle with a scope and headshot gear! :P

*runs away and hides*  Image IPB

WAIT! Maybe if I put that sweet set up on my Geth Solider, it wouldn't get straight kicked out of five rando lobbies in a row?

*alright, runs away and hides for real this time, promise* Image IPB

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kviksverd wrote...

I think it bears repeating...stardusk didn't call himself a genius.

Just wanted to point it out, as some seem to be forming a negative opinion of him based on someone else's praise.

Must be a word for this effect...

"Tebow'd" perhaps?


Lol nailed it.  Poor Tim and Stardusk.  I happen to be a fan of both.