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[TheButterflyEffect]

I really, really hope the PC in this game will at least be allowed to have some personal happiness in the end, once the world is saved and all.

Saving the world tastes sour if you're left alone and miserable in the end. Seriously, the ending of the original game tasted so sour that I was nauseous afterwards. I had to get up and go take some Gravol.

"Yay! You saved the world! But you're still just a mage/the insignificant younger sibling/an elf who's exiled from the Alienage/an elf whose exiled from your clan/a casteless dwarf/an unwanted ex prince(ss). Sorry."

Geez, where the hell's your respect for the person who saved your scrawny neck?

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Modifié par TheButterflyEffect, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[Plaintiff]

My warden found plenty of personal happiness, and so did my Hawke, even if he endured hardships to get there. I'm not seeing the problem.

[Liamv2]

I expect my characters to die at the end but whould prefer it if it was a you lose option

Modifié par Liamv2, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:11 .

[TheButterflyEffect]

Hawke was good.

But the Warden got screwed a bajillion times over. Seriously, by the time of Awakening, you're still exiled from your former home, whatever family you have left has still disowned you, and all of your potential LI's ditch you.

Modifié par TheButterflyEffect, 07 novembre 2012 - 09:14 .

[naughty99]

I thought this was going to be about the UI for PC. ;-)

[Felya87]

Great strip. That's why I never let Alistair became King, when playng a female City Elf...still, is true that in the last Bio games, the happiness of the PC is...secondary? (and no, I'm not talking about M3...mostly!)

Still, I was ok in DA:O, where there was at least the chance to have a sweet ending (not really happy, after all: there is a baby who could possibly destroy the world someday) if you made the right choise.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Being bann of the alienage isn't really a positive thing.

You know that it's inevitably going to fall apart sooner or later, and the poor ghetto elves are going to get smashed. Again.

[Plaintiff]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Hawke was good.

But the Warden got screwed a bajillion times over. Seriously, by the time of Awakening, you're still exiled from your former home, whatever family you have left has still disowned you, and all of your potential LI's ditch you.

Being a Gray Warden is a serious commitment. You're told from the beginning of Origins that there's no going back.

My warden wasn't ditched by his love interest, they were smply in different parts of the continent for business reasons. There is no indication that any of them have been disowned by their families, I think you're seriously reaching here.

[Darth Krytie]

Happiness for the PC is only cool if it makes sense for the story. In DA:O, I just made sure that my human noble went after Alistair (after the heartbreak for my city elf) and had my other characters bang other companions. And in DA2, me and Anders run off into the sunset more often than not.

But I'm okay with sacrifice for story purposes.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Plaintiff wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Hawke was good.

But the Warden got screwed a bajillion times over. Seriously, by the time of Awakening, you're still exiled from your former home, whatever family you have left has still disowned you, and all of your potential LI's ditch you.

Being a Gray Warden is a serious commitment. You're told from the beginning of Origins that there's no going back.

My warden wasn't ditched by his love interest, they were smply in different parts of the continent for business reasons. There is no indication that any of them have been disowned by their families, I think you're seriously reaching here.

Actually yes you can "go back". You can't cure yourself of darkspawn AIDS, but otherwise you're free to leave... Anders did, Fiona did, and so have several other minor characters.

[Yalision]

My Warden found happiness before he gave his like to save Ferelden.

[TheButterflyEffect]

Dying at the end blows. So... overused. Boring.

[Plaintiff]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Plaintiff wrote...

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Hawke was good.

But the Warden got screwed a bajillion times over. Seriously, by the time of Awakening, you're still exiled from your former home, whatever family you have left has still disowned you, and all of your potential LI's ditch you.

Being a Gray Warden is a serious commitment. You're told from the beginning of Origins that there's no going back.

My warden wasn't ditched by his love interest, they were smply in different parts of the continent for business reasons. There is no indication that any of them have been disowned by their families, I think you're seriously reaching here.

Actually yes you can "go back". You can't cure yourself of darkspawn AIDS, but otherwise you're free to leave... Anders did, Fiona did, and so have several other minor characters.

People can flee the wardens. Anders didn't legitimately retire, he ran away because he was about to be murdered. Fiona and Alistair left to take on extremely important positions in other institutions.

Obviously going "back home" is not an option for most Grey Wardens or even most potential Grey Wardens. It wasn't an option for Ser Jory. The order would sooner kill defectors than risk them spreadng their secrets around.

[whykikyouwhy]

Personal happiness is exactly that...personal. Players are going to have different hopes and expectations for how their PC's closing scene will be. For some, the sacrifice works. For others, the walk into the sunset. Sometimes it's the journey itself that dictates contentment when that journey's end is reached.

@OP - On another note, perhaps you could refrain from paralleling the darkspawn taint with any real-world diseases. It may not be your intention to offend in any manner, but it comes off in bad taste.

[Fredward]

Personal happiness is overrated. The world needs more misery.

[bleetman]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

"Yay! You saved the world! But you're still just a mage/the insignificant younger sibling/an elf who's exiled from the Alienage/an elf whose exiled from your clan/a casteless dwarf/an unwanted ex prince(ss). Sorry."

I'm pretty sure my city elf warden(s) became bann of the alienage. I remember no such exile.

[The Elder King]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

Hawke was good.

But the Warden got screwed a bajillion times over. Seriously, by the time of Awakening, you're still exiled from your former home, whatever family you have left has still disowned you, and all of your potential LI's ditch you.

Both ND and CD Warden became Paragon at the end of Origins. They're not exiled. The mage Warden doesn't have a family (well, he couldn't return home, but this is already established at the end of the Origin. He could came and visit is friends in the tower probably), the HN Warden found that his brother his alive and he could visit him, the CE Warden could return to see his family every time he goes in Denerim (you're not welcome if you accepted Vaughn's proposal, but did you expect a different outcome in this case?). The only one who can't reach his family is the Dalish Warden, but no family has disowned you and you're not exiled anymore.
The only LI who really ditched you is Morrigan. Leliana and Zevran have their thing to do (I don't see problems with this, but I know that for someone this is like being betrayed), and Alistair isn't far away from you only if he's a Warden. As a King, whatever is your status (queen, mistress), you can go and see him.

[The Elder King]

TheButterflyEffect wrote...

"Yay! You saved the world! But you're still just a mage/the insignificant younger sibling/an elf who's exiled from the Alienage/an elf whose exiled from your clan/a casteless dwarf/an unwanted ex prince(ss). Sorry."

Mage: they can't reach titles to being with. Being WC and arle isn't that bad.
Cousland: WC, arle, could be king, royal advisor, or teyrn of Gwaren. He could have a lot of power, actually more than Fergus.
City Elf: he's "exiled" only if you accepted Vaughn's offer. In this case the evlves's reaction is completely logical. You can be WC, arle and bann
Dalish elf: he is't exiled, he was forced to leave the clan to cure himself. Again, WC and arle
CD-ND: they are Paragon after the epilogue. They can't be more important in Orzammar. You can be WC and arle.

Modifié par hhh89, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:46 .

[AshenShug4r]

Plenty for me to be happy about. It was definitely bitter, but at the same time, I'm now a famous archdemon slayer who has all the glory he wants, the command of the Fereldan wardens which is an honor and a privileged duty. Friend of the king and queen, plenty of other companions all over Fereldan, great memories.

[Psycho_Kenshin]

An ending where either one side wins is highly unlikely, cause a 4th installation would be difficult.

Not necessarily, if part 4 is set say 100 years later for example, things will have changed enough for all new circumstances. I don't think they'd want to keep the importing direct continuation thing going past a trilogy, but that's another topic.

I do agree, a happy ending for this game would be nice. Though tragic endings are also touching and can be great.