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[Psycho_Kenshin]

I'm a fan of Isabela and I see fans would like her to be in this game at least as a cameo. And while I agree, they may have painted themselves in a corner here. If they aren't going to show Hawke or the Warden in part 3, which has been the pattern. Isabela growing a bit and being with Hawke for me is key. If they just break them up to have her in the game solo a third time, that'd be weak storytelling.

If they don't want to show Hawke, it'll be tough to show Isabela without messing with that. I can understand that Leliana broke up with the Warden for example I guess, but having it happen two games in a row would not be good. And it'd really feel like they aren't letting characters grow or enter real relationships.

This is a bigger topic in general, how to handle the import things well, but just pointing out solo Isabela in part 3 would be bad, in my opinion.

Modifié par Psycho_Kenshin, 07 novembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[David Gaider]

Psycho_Kenshin wrote...
I'm a fan of Isabela and I see fans would like her to be in this game at least as a cameo. And while I agree, they may have painted themselves in a corner here. If they aren't going to show Hawke or the Warden in part 3, which has been the pattern. Isabela growing a bit and being with Hawke for me is key. If they just break them up to have her in the game solo a third time, that'd be weak storytelling.

If they don't want to show Hawke, it'll be tough to show Isabela without messing with that. I can understand that Leliana broke up with the Warden for example I guess, but having it happen two games in a row would not be good. And it'd really feel like they aren't letting characters grow or enter real relationships.

This is a bigger topic in general, how to handle the import things well, but just pointing out solo Isabela in part 3 would be bad, in my opinion.

Let me break it to you now: any character that is now an NPC is definitely no longer under your control. This doesn't mean we intend to have them deliberately running amok and doing things just to upset their former players-- but it does mean you don't get to make decisions for them any longer. It's entirely possible they'll do things you didn't imagine them doing, and this applies extra when it comes to NPC's which were also NPC's in previous games (such as Leliana and Isabela).

I'm sure someone will take this as confirmation of us setting out to violate everyone's head canon en masse, which is simply not the case... but we are not responsible for your head canon. The story moves on and things change, and if it possibly not matching up with what you have in your head is "weak storytelling" to you, then so be it. That might very well happen.

Duly warned be thee, says I.

Modifié par David Gaider, 13 décembre 2012 - 04:04 .

[David Gaider]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
While I don't think you'd do something so malicious -- not even you are that malicious, I would think =P -- I do hope Xanthos Aeducan would not be reduced to... well... something that he isn't.

But even so, I could always just write a fanfic detailing how he'd do something since he was my character. If you make him do A when he would've done B, I'll just have him do B in a fanfic and see how that would play out by writing an alternate scenario.

Simple as that. If you violate my headcanon in some major way then I'll take control of my character in the way that I can. If you don't, then cool.

Of course. That's what fanfiction is for, really, isn't it?

And naturally we wouldn't do anything malicious. We're aware that people are sensitive about their player characters (and their romances in particular), so we're not going to have things like break-ups just for the hell of it... in fact, whenever possible we'll likely leave it open to interpretation. When that's not possible, we'll have reactivity... but reactivity does not necessarily lead to "that character does exactly what I imagine they did after the game". This is doubly true for NPC's-- they will make decisions and continue their stories, which may not align with what you thought would happen but do indeed work just fine for us the people who created those characters in the first place (I find it particularly interesting how some people seem to think a hardened Leliana would never serve a reformist Divine, because I assure you she would).

But I suppose this is nothing new to any sequel that didn't just jump to an entirely new location/time and new set of characters. We'll just roll with it as it comes. My only intention here was to inform those people who are indeed in that "if my PC or beloved NPC's do anything that violates my headcanon I will be upset" camp to prepare to be upset.

[David Gaider]

Mark of the Dragon wrote...
My point was if Isabela comes back in DA3 sleeping with everyone then that is a slap in gamers faces who romanced Isabela. If they didnt sure let her sleep around if they did romance her...don't.

If Zevran romanced the DAO PC he didn't sleep with anyone in DA2. Why do you picture it being so different for Isabela?

frankf43 wrote...

so the new catchphrases for DA:I are.

Duly warned be thee, says I.
and
Prepare to be upset.

Gotcha.

Have to admit, it's this kind of thing that makes me wonder whether I should really be coming here to say anything at all. Perhaps I should not. Something to consider, I guess.

Modifié par David Gaider, 14 décembre 2012 - 05:07 .

[David Gaider]

Harle Cerulean wrote...
Actually, he did.  Due to import bugs, the only time he didn't offer to sleep with Hawke or Isabela is if he romanced the Warden and the Warden died slaying the Archdemon.  Which, yes, was a bug, but it's also a bug that, to my knowledge, was never patched, because the import bugs were considered to be bugs on DA:O's part, not DA2's part.  Hopefully future imports will lack bugs, but regardless, your example doesn't work, because yes, romanced Zevran does sleep with people in DA2.

*hands*

Then, yes. If we used Isabela in a similar capacity as Zevran's cameo in DA2 and if there was an import bug that didn't recognize her romance with the DA2 PC, then by all means she would sleep with someone.

I'm not sure how you would expect the writers to account for that. Don't have bugs? Well, OK then. We'll get right on that.