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[corporal doody]

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

the same was said about the latest published COJ and too human


 

 
Ball is in your court Chris

were those made by BW as well?

[BlackCat]

Wow, so Omega is not going to be a hub world. What was this talk before game release about the Citadel, Omega, and I remember Illium being mentioned, as hub worlds. Leviathan was also said to be as big as LOTSB...

I agree with Fedi.ST, they are clearly heading in another direction, reducing staple elements of the game. I think they're going to do what they want regardless. I was hopeful a few months back, I'm not holding my breath at this point.

Modifié par Cat71, 08 novembre 2012 - 01:37 .

[Mcfly616]

^^ Leviathan was as big as LotSB....lol


Sorry

[ioannisdenton]

I don't understand you guys.
Yeah Me3 could and should be better But:
We wanted an different ending and we got one (it is different as different things happen)
You wanted to see Female turians , now you get to see one
We wanted to play with Aria , we get that
We wanted to see omega na d reclaim it and we got it.
we wanted to see about the catalyst creators and we got it.

Stop it already. if you don't like it then Do not buy it.
Give a break already.

[Mathias]

$15 for a 4 hour DLC.
Aria and Nyreen aren't permanent Squad members.
You cannot romance Aria.
Omega is not a new Hub.

Wow Bioware, way to go all out with your "biggest dlc ever". This should be an easy pass for anyone.

[BlackCat]

Mcfly616 wrote...

^^ Leviathan was as big as LotSB....lol


Sorry

It didn't feel as "grand" as lotsb, I'm  not just reffering to size...

[Tasker]

LilLino wrote...

And it's obvious Bioware is listening, adding a female Turian and making her more than just a male in the cape is a great way to express that. 

So anyone saying that Bio doesn't care at all is either blind or arrogant.

How do you know that the female Turian wasn't done so they could add it to multiplay and milk more money out of it?

[GiarcYekrub]

Orkboy wrote...

LilLino wrote...

And it's obvious Bioware is listening, adding a female Turian and making her more than just a male in the cape is a great way to express that. 

So anyone saying that Bio doesn't care at all is either blind or arrogant.

How do you know that the female Turian wasn't done so they could add it to multiplay and milk more money out of it?

Are you saying sharing assets between MP and SP is wrong in some way?

[Iakus]

FOX216BC wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". 

There is also a difference between listening, obeying and hear what yo want to hear.

Marge: You're not listening Homer, your only hearing what you want to hear
Homer: Thanks, I'd love an omelette right about now.

[CroGamer002]

iakus wrote...

FOX216BC wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". 

There is also a difference between listening, obeying and hear what yo want to hear.

Marge: You're not listening Homer, your only hearing what you want to hear
Homer: Thanks, I'd love an omelette right about now.

I'm dead.

[Ithurael]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

$15 for a 4 hour DLC.
Aria and Nyreen aren't permanent Squad members.
You cannot romance Aria.
Omega is not a new Hub.

Wow Bioware, way to go all out with your "biggest dlc ever". This should be an easy pass for anyone.

They are charging for quantity (the measure of quality remains to be seen but I am rather skeptical as of now)

$15 for 4 missions (or 4 hours) does seem logical to a business mind. However, if those 4 hours are just running around pew pewing things only to get war assets what is the point? This is a side adventure that should lead up to the big conclusion. What fans seem to want are deeper RPG elements - not more pew pewing.

If one believes that quantity == quality then I would say this is a dlc for you

If one however believes the inverse, I would suggest you do what I do and wait for reviews, spoilers, Youtube, etc before buying. Quality is a difficult metric to measure though there are a few correlations.

[Xellith]

LeandroBraz wrote...

LanceSolous13 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

Then what about the characters that were long forgotten and foreshaken by the third installment?

What about Thane?

Miranda?

Jack?

Kasumi?

Zaeed?

Grunt?

Samara?

Jacob?

What about the romances that lie incomplete or forgotten such as those from Mass Effect 2?

What about Shepard, who contradicts him/herself in both ME3 alone and prior installments? What about his/her fate which is still extremely lacking in closure as well as for his/her love interest who also goes unmentioned in the ending?

What about the things the Romance DLC Survey proved what the fans wanted to see, full of pleanty of suggestions on how to make things better for the series, the fans, and Bioware itself?

What about the logical fallacies that the Star-Brat constantly speaks but yet says nothing at all?

People would stop complaining about these things if they were just simply addressed and aknowledged instead of being written off as "Fans wanting to see more of Shepard" or being "devoted to the series".

I really hate to be the person who looks like an ass, but we wouldn't still be complaining after nearly half a year if these issues were just addressed so some faith can be restored between Bioware and its fanbase.

Stopped at thane. Forgotten? He had one of the most cool end, and his fight and death are two of the best moments of ME3. Just because you didn't wanted him to die, it doesn't mean he was forgotten. By the way, I liked that he died, and did it in a cool way. It would be lame a cure coming from nowhere, which create a serious problem for the way you see things. If Bioware should do the will of the fanbase, and I'm part of the fanbase, same as you, why they should do what you want and not what I want? My feedback was let him die, why they should listen to you and not me?

it's not how things work.. 

Its nice to know you can cherrypick what you like from cutscenes.  Thanes death is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen.  Gun right to Kai lengs head. All he has to do is pull the trigger.  But nope.  Fight ensues.  EVERYONE ELSE STAND AROUND LOOKING AT WALLS.

Ridiculous and that entire scene is there just to cater to people like yourself. 

I dont mind he died.  I mind that Bioware took no care in skillfully crafting that scene into something believable/that didnt make the characters look retarded.

But apart from that thane death scene - thane does pretty much nothing outside of maybe 10 mins of conversation in the entire game.

Modifié par Xellith, 08 novembre 2012 - 03:46 .

[dorktainian]

LilLino wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

So anyone saying that Bio doesn't care at all is either blind or arrogant.

thats an awfully sweeping statement.

in what way would they be arrogant?  Why would they be blind?  That really does not make any sense at all.

saying someone is arrogant or blind because they dont agree with your opinion?  it's an opinion.  everyone has them.  not all of them may tally with yours.  Sorry bout that.

[dorktainian]

some cracking games coming out. all worth their asking price as well. Go and spend your money on one of those. You know the ending wont change after omega and it'll be pew pew more cerberus lackys (again).

Modifié par dorktainian, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:06 .

[Jadebaby]

Honestly, despite my literary ending hatred, I'm actually surprised BioWare keep putting nails in their coffin. I mean sure, there a probably a million fans on facebook and twitter that will lap up anything they eat. But they are totally abandoning their hardcore fanbase to do so.

Actually, not even that, they're abandoning their own story and lore. Because, after all.. That's how hardcore fans usually turn on the thing they love, because the thing they loved isn't the same thing anymore. And to make it that something different, they had to bend/break it.

[StrawberryRainPop]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

Fair enought chris, but do you mind answering this, does it add anything to the ending at all? Any new scenes in the ending, or even give a new perspective on the ending events?

Also, does Bioware have ANY plans for ending DLC?

[crimzontearz]

corporal doody wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

the same was said about the latest published COJ and too human


 

 
Ball is in your court Chris

were those made by BW as well?

no I am just saying that believing their shtick their is pure idiocy at this point

[Jadebaby]

He wont answer that. It's not his jerb.

^Rainpop

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:13 .

[crimzontearz]

StrawberryRainPop wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Yes, we are really listening.

Now, and I know this sounds a little harsh, but there is a difference between "listening" and "obeying". We do listen to fans and take their feedback into consideration when we make games, DLC, balance changes, etc. However, that does not mean we are going to blindly obey what is requested by some people.

Not everyone agrees on what should or should not be in the game. And not everythign that people ask for is possible to be implemented based on the way the code of the game is structured. And not everything is possible for story and design reasons that I can't say.

I know that not all choices made by the team are in line with what all fans want (incoming "you can say that again Priestly" in 3..2...1...), but Omega IS very strong and I think you'll enjoy it if you give it a chance.

Fair enought chris, but do you mind answering this, does it add anything to the ending at all? Any new scenes in the ending, or even give a new perspective on the ending events?

Also, does Bioware have ANY plans for ending DLC?

no...no...no...and nope.


 
They have no plan because you are a peon who is not entitled to even begin to think they did something wrong with the ending OR with the handling of the fallout

Modifié par crimzontearz, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:21 .

[3DandBeyond]

Mcfly616 wrote...

^^ Leviathan was as big as LotSB....lol


Sorry

Define big.  Storage space wise, play wise, quality wise or sales wise.  Storage space seems a bit wasted to me because it adds nothing of value to the game and in fact, makes some things much worse.  Play wise it is repetitive and takes you to a few locations, but makes you continually return to the lab to find bits of evidence.  It is fight some variants, go to lab, fight some variants, go to lab, fight some variants, find poor miners (that should have been left alone in their ignorance and thrall state and not made to face this crap), fight some variants, go underwater, talk to Leviathan who says they will fight, see Leviathan do a repeat of the thresher maw on Tuchanka, get to end of game and get some bit more of dialogue from kid that makes all of his statements even more contradictory.  Leviathan made the endings even stupider.  Sales wise-Leviathan, BW stated through Chris, is their best selling DLC to date.  Well, that's great.  However, compared to what?  LotSB, From Ashes?  Many people got both of those for free-LotSB, included with PS3 version, From Ashes with CE.  Pizza sells better than air, too.  But, I daresay more people like air and want it if they can choose only one.

[Ithurael]

3DandBeyond wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

^^ Leviathan was as big as LotSB....lol


Sorry

Define big.  Storage space wise, play wise, quality wise or sales wise.  Storage space seems a bit wasted to me because it adds nothing of value to the game and in fact, makes some things much worse.  Play wise it is repetitive and takes you to a few locations, but makes you continually return to the lab to find bits of evidence.  It is fight some variants, go to lab, fight some variants, go to lab, fight some variants, find poor miners (that should have been left alone in their ignorance and thrall state and not made to face this crap), fight some variants, go underwater, talk to Leviathan who says they will fight, see Leviathan do a repeat of the thresher maw on Tuchanka, get to end of game and get some bit more of dialogue from kid that makes all of his statements even more contradictory.  Leviathan made the endings even stupider.  Sales wise-Leviathan, BW stated through Chris, is their best selling DLC to date.  Well, that's great.  However, compared to what?  LotSB, From Ashes?  Many people got both of those for free-LotSB, included with PS3 version, From Ashes with CE.  Pizza sells better than air, too.  But, I daresay more people like air and want it if they can choose only one.

I think chris said Leviathan was the best selling dlc to date. What that means is up for interpretation I suppose.

Personally, I think the whole reason it sold well was due to the tease that Leviathan would cause a 'rift' in the endings but that is my thought. If anything Leviathan just gave us more speculations, a glitchy convo with the kid, the three huskateers return, and more harbinger buildup (though identifying something greater than harbinger).

[Ithurael]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

He wont answer that. It's not his jerb.

^Rainpop

He did, he said it like 5 times now. No post ending dlc is being planned, created, going to be created. The endings are the endings.

Line of End

[Jadebaby]

Ithurael wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

He wont answer that. It's not his jerb.

^Rainpop

He did, he said it like 5 times now. No post ending dlc is being planned, created, going to be created. The endings are the endings.

Line of End

He'd say that even if it were untrue, I wouldn't blame him. As if he's going to release any infornation on it.