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#126
Snake_Squeezins

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I think 6 Praetorians in a wave is still overkill on Gold.

And does the cap on Dragoons prevent all 6 of them from appearing at the same time? Because THAT is the biggest problem with them. You could have 10 of them appear during a wave if they weren't stealth-jumping you 3 at a time.

Did you add any sounds to Dragoons, by the way? That's another big problem with them.

I like the Hallowed Hero name.

The Biotic Orb Challenge seems like a grindfest. Slow to reload plus little damage equals something you won't get anywhere near as easily as other challenges.

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CMalk wrote...

well one ultra rare and one challenge, is there something more?


Sure there is.

You can provide them some free advertising.
You can give them some promotional material.
You can give them some other promotional material.
You can download a free picture.
You can watch some Mass Effect advertising.
You can buy the new Mass Effect set and some merchandise.
You can give them still more promotional material.
You can buy some other merchandise.
You can buy even more merchandise.
You can buy, if that wasn't enough, still more merchandise.

Maybe I'm being just a little cynical here...

:innocent:

#128
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I think that Solo Mastery going down from 300 points to 100 points is to drastic. Solo Mastery is perhaps the toughest challenge there is. Other challenges require perhaps more time to complete but are not as difficult as the solo mastery. I realize that 300 points is perhaps too much because otherwise people with a lot of skill and high characters get to many points in a to short period but 100 points is really low for that challenge. You go from the best paid challenge to the worst paid challenge overnight. I wonder why?

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RazorBlade72nd wrote...

I think that Solo Mastery going down from 300 points to 100 points is to drastic. Solo Mastery is perhaps the toughest challenge there is. Other challenges require perhaps more time to complete but are not as difficult as the solo mastery. I realize that 300 points is perhaps too much because otherwise people with a lot of skill and high characters get to many points in a to short period but 100 points is really low for that challenge. You go from the best paid challenge to the worst paid challenge overnight. I wonder why?


Challenge points and all leadership is BS. Only the nice pictures to decorate lobby are worth some time to get them once.

#130
RazorBlade72nd

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Oggy666,

Perhaps we should cancel all sport events as well from now on after these wise words from you. Who cares about points anyway?

To be honest the Solo Mastery challenge was the only challenge I really enjoyed getting because at least for me it was a real challenge. Other challenges you get eventually anyway if you spend enough time on it. Most other challenges require no skill and can be done in bronze.

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RazorBlade72nd wrote...
To be honest the Solo Mastery challenge was the only challenge I really enjoyed getting because at least for me it was a real challenge.


This.
Seriously, why they nerfed the Solo Mastery? I play mostly PUGs and I don't think that the majority of gamers soloed gold twice.

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NO ><

#133
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Well you can do solo mastery without sweating with kroguard and reegar vs geth, glacier, guess that's why they nerfed it

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Let me explain better.

Soloing gold takes skill, but not so much once you have the right setup and knowledge.

I enjoyed solo challenge, as some others too. But the amount of points is really irrelevant...you earn points by just playing, soloing, using different characters and weapons. Thats nice, I enjoyed taking the hornet or phaeston or whatever into battle, and I like Dog of War banner for how it looks. The points....nothing else as grinding, much like N7 rank....you must play many hours to have high amount, grinding, repeating challenges - there is no skill. What is the point of leaderboards where is no skill, only someone with more time to play has more points....so points are BS and no one should care if some challenge gives 100, 200 or 300 points (why were even the changes necessary?).

In the end, I am enjoying getting every challenge done to have all my "decorations", after that continue playing what I like to play at that time, not for some points.

There should be challenges and many leaderboards based on time, effectivness, accuracy....in relation to specific map, gun class, or enemy.

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RazorBlade72nd

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Kuciowski wrote...

Well you can do solo mastery without sweating with kroguard and reegar vs geth, glacier, guess that's why they nerfed it



I guess that every challenge can be done with the right gear, character, mods, and knowledge. The only reason I find the Solo Mastery different then the other challenges is that the other challenges don’t even require any of this. All the other challenges require only a lot of time.
 
I think it would be a good idea if there would be more challenges that require some sort of skill so that even the more skilled players would have something to be challenged with. Why not make a challenge for playing with a Volus platinum with just an Avenger.

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Come on, why was Biotic/Tech Mastery hit so hard? I was on 80% for both, too... :(

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PaperAlien wrote...

Come on, why was Biotic/Tech Mastery hit so hard? I was on 80% for both, too... :(


People liked to grind it.

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Cry of the Wind

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PaperAlien wrote...

Come on, why was Biotic/Tech Mastery hit so hard? I was on 80% for both, too... :(


i have completed those both twice without trying but have only done each weapon challenge once.  That's why the change makes sense to me.

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PaperAlien wrote...

Come on, why was Biotic/Tech Mastery hit so hard? I was on 80% for both, too... :(


And? The points required for the award(s) haven't changed, only the points awarded for completion...

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PaperAlien wrote...

Come on, why was Biotic/Tech Mastery hit so hard? I was on 80% for both, too... :(


It's actually very easy to do. You pretty much can do 25% on a power on one Gold game, for some powers even 50%. Maybe that's why.

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Hi Eric, could you shed a little light on the awarded challenge point changes please? I'm not complaining, I'm just curious about what would factor into needing to change those point payouts. Also, if someone has already completed that challenge(where the points were reduced) and gotten the points, could they theoretically have more total points than someone else who hasn't gotten it yet?
(this last question is really for those of us who care about points and standings on the leaderboards, which doesn't include me(just curious))

Thanks for continuing to balance and refine this game.

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Let me just say that I find it extremely unfair that you modified challenge points awarded on several challenges without taking the differences in points from those that already got them.

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What would it take to add a Combat skills challenge? It seems weird that there are challenges for using Biotics and Tech skills, yet you don't get challenges for point-earning combat skills like Concussive Shot.

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greghorvath wrote...

Let me just say that I find it extremely unfair that you modified challenge points awarded on several challenges without taking the differences in points from those that already got them.


No matter how they did it someone would complain.  This way is the most fair as far as I am concerned.

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RazorBlade72nd wrote...

Kuciowski wrote...

Well you can do solo mastery without sweating with kroguard and reegar vs geth, glacier, guess that's why they nerfed it



I guess that every challenge can be done with the right gear, character, mods, and knowledge. The only reason I find the Solo Mastery different then the other challenges is that the other challenges don’t even require any of this. All the other challenges require only a lot of time.
 
I think it would be a good idea if there would be more challenges that require some sort of skill so that even the more skilled players would have something to be challenged with. Why not make a challenge for playing with a Volus platinum with just an Avenger.


The reason this won't happen is becasue the # of really skilled players is a  minimum of the player base.

For me the Lone Wolf challenge was by far the hardest, but I didn't do it with a Kroguard vs Geth either simply because it should be a challenge.

Dropping it to 100 pts is silly, but BW has a habit of over nerfing things, but 300 was too high. 200 is about right IMO.

To anyone who doesn't care about the points, then why even post in this thread??? You don't care about the challenge system, but care enough to post in a thread about it??? Makes no sence.

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I completed the challenge yesterday and got the reward pack (5missiles,freeze ammo, paladin8) , but never saw a 'free' loyalty pack despite logging in several times in the day. Have I missed out?

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lonetrooper269 wrote...

I completed the challenge yesterday and got the reward pack (5missiles,freeze ammo, paladin8) , but never saw a 'free' loyalty pack despite logging in several times in the day. Have I missed out?

There was no reward pack.  You got the loyalty pack.  The reward was just a banner.

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rka001 wrote...

I am 20/21 in Cerberus Mastery, and i still have to kill guardians for 100k. Farming them on silver is kinda tedious.

Please, please, please think of the kitten and balance this in the next update.

<3

On one of the Silver objective waves (Wave 3 I think), Guardians will usually continue to spawn over and over again until you complete the objective.  If you want to really get a lot of points, take as long as possible to do the objective and just run around killing Guardians.

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hell ya " a geth soldier....nice

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lonetrooper269

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Miniditka77 wrote...

lonetrooper269 wrote...

I completed the challenge yesterday and got the reward pack (5missiles,freeze ammo, paladin8) , but never saw a 'free' loyalty pack despite logging in several times in the day. Have I missed out?

There was no reward pack.  You got the loyalty pack.  The reward was just a banner.

Thanks for clarifying that for me.