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[majormajormmajor]

All these delicious Cerberus fanboy tears!

If Aria causes this much rectal devastation among you cnuts, she's okay in my book

[Bl0dbathNBeyond]

I'm pretty sure Petrovsky isn't Shepard's favorite character. FWIW.

[Steelcan]

Bl0dbathNBeyond wrote...

I'm pretty sure Petrovsky isn't Shepard's favorite character. FWIW.

. Shepard should respect Aria, my Shepard respects her authority in Omega.  But he is sick of bending over for her.  He would toss her out an airlock to get Petrovsky on his side.

[MisterJB]

dreamgazer wrote...
To be fair, those are the words of a petulant crime lord who wants her haven back. She might be distorting.

Might.

Hopefully but, truth be told, this just reeks of character assassination.
My last hope are these words from the trailer. "You're on the wrong side; TIM is about to meet his match." This could be an argument between Shepard and Petrovsky where he is convinced to join. It would still force me to give Omega to a Crime Lord rather than attempt to extablish a foothold of civilization in the Terminus but it would be better than nothing.

[krukow]

MisterJB wrote...


Hopefully but, truth be told, this just reeks of character assassination.
My last hope are these words from the trailer. "You're on the wrong side; TIM is about to meet his match." This could be an argument between Shepard and Petrovsky where he is convinced to join. It would still force me to give Omega to a Crime Lord rather than attempt to extablish a foothold of civilization in the Terminus but it would be better than nothing.

That's totally going to happen!  SRS!

Or not at all.

[Xandurpein]

Bl0dbathNBeyond wrote...

I'm pretty sure Petrovsky isn't Shepard's favorite character. FWIW.

I don't know if you realize it, but that sentence pretty much summarize everything I think went wrong in Mass Effect. I used to feel that it was  ME, the player, who decided what the main character liked in a Bioware game. In ME 3 Bioware took that away from me. I decide if Shepard wants to date Jack, Tali or Miranda. Why can't I decide that Shepard likes Petrovsky?

Modifié par Xandurpein, 26 novembre 2012 - 06:53 .

[CHALET]

Petrovsky is obviously going to be turned Chaotic Stupid. By the time we meet him he'll probably have put out an order for his men to gun down every civilian on Omega and is finishing off eating a baby as we walk in.

Grey morality in Mass Effect 3? Morality in Cerberus in Mass Effect 3? Hahahahahaha... Oh, you guys crack me up.

Modifié par CHALET, 26 novembre 2012 - 06:55 .

[Cutlass Jack]

Xandurpein wrote...

I don't know if you realize it, but that sentence pretty much summarize everything I think went wrong in Mass Effect. I used to feel that it was  ME, the player, who decided what the main character liked in a Bioware game. In ME 3 Bioware took that away from me. I decide if Shepard wants to date Jack, Tali or Miranda. Why can't I decide that Shepard likes Petrovsky?

Not really sure how ME3 changed anything there. In ME1 no matter how much I liked Saren he was still going to end up dead. The only difference was if I could get him to shoot himself before I did.

It doesnt matter how much you like an enemy. If they are shooting at you, it seems incredibly likely you'd be shooting back. Thats true of all three games. ME3 didnt take that away from you.

[WhiteKnyght]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I'm wondering how it has come about that I react to news of ME3 DLC with trepidation instead of excitement. But here it is: I may be called to go to a place I don't care for, acting on behalf of characters I don't care for, in order to kill one of my favorite characters from the comics.

When will it end? When will ME3 stop railroading my Shepard into situations where he can't avoid acting out of character? It's been bad enough in the main game that complaints were common - can you say prologue, dream sequences and the Catalyst encounter? You'd think they've learned from it. Now I hear that there'll be an important decision - between Aria and Nyreen, two characters I don't care for, or about. And likely Petrovsky will have been retconned into the stereotypical villain's role.

Will we be able to double-cross Aria and recruit Petrovsky to our cause? He was a decent enough guy in ME:Invasion, right? Aria or Nyreen - that decision is meaningless to me compared to Petrovsky's fate. How could it not, knowing Petrovsky and Aria from the games and the books and Nyreen not at all.

If we're not getting a choice about Petrovsky, then I'll know that everywhere else in ME3 when I wanted a choice and didn't get one, when my favorite NPC came across almost like an impostor, when I got the impression that the story worshipped the conventional and unreflected feel-good morality, that that wasn't a fluke - but program. Ironically, apart from the Rannoch plot, ME3's ending might end up as the part I like best...

Most of Cerberus is indoctrinated. Petrovsky has spent months on a space station full of Reaper tech implanted minions. Chances are he's a little messed in the head too.

You forget that Invasion was before Cerberus started mass producing their army of implanted soldiers.

CHALET wrote...

Petrovsky is obviously going to be turned
Chaotic Stupid. By the time we meet him he'll probably have put out an
order for his men to gun down every civilian on Omega and is finishing
off eating a baby as we walk in.

Grey morality in Mass Effect 3? Morality in Cerberus in Mass Effect 3? Hahahahahaha... Oh, you guys crack me up.

Cerberus
has never had morals. Jack, Gillian Grayson, Paul Grayson, and David
Archer proved that. You're believing The Illusive Man's lies if you
think otherwise.

Cerberus is also indoctrinated in ME3. And the Reapers don't have morals.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 26 novembre 2012 - 07:24 .

[Eterna]

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

[WhiteKnyght]

Eterna5 wrote...

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

Crazy and hatebent might be the better word. People make the biggest deal out of the smallest things.

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

[Eterna]

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

Maybe from her view he is merciless? I mean, she may be a little biased. 

[CHALET]

Cerberus
has never had morals. Jack, Gillian Grayson, Paul Grayson, and David
Archer proved that. You're believing The Illusive Man's lies if you
think otherwise.

Cerberus is also indoctrinated in ME3. And the Reapers don't have morals.

In the comic, Oleg is concerned for the safety of civilians when using explosives. He cares for the safety of his men and immediately sends medics to aid them, he dislikes the more dick-ish and "TIM" colonel he works with.

He may be an antagonist, but even if they kill him off he can be used to show not everybody in Cerberus is a complete tool. It's the same reason I really hated killing off the Spectre in Lair of the Shadow Broker. Use it as a player punch to show they're not so different (Shepard is working with a criminal, plain and simple),

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

Maybe from her view he is merciless? I mean, she may be a little biased. 

. He saved her life 

[Eterna]

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

Maybe from her view he is merciless? I mean, she may be a little biased. 

. He saved her life 

"Yo Shepdog, We need to go take back Omega from Oleg, he's a pretty coo guy and has shown mercy to everyone in this station. He treats his soldiers kindly and with dignity and respect! I want you to shoot him in the face."

Because saying that is a great way to swing Shepard over onto Arias side. 

[Steelcan]

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

Maybe from her view he is merciless? I mean, she may be a little biased. 

. He saved her life 

"Yo Shepdog, We need to go take back Omega from Oleg, he's a pretty coo guy and has shown mercy to everyone in this station. He treats his soldiers kindly and with dignity and respect! I want you to shoot him in the face."
Because saying that is a great way to swing Shepard over onto Arias side. 

. Shepard has been Aria's **** from day 1

[Eterna]

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...
Oleg has one line in the trailer and we're calling it character assassination? Good lord we have become cynical.

. It's Aria's dialogue that is more disconcerting.  Her dialogue calling him "merciless" is just wrong when examining the events in Invasion.

Maybe from her view he is merciless? I mean, she may be a little biased. 

. He saved her life 

"Yo Shepdog, We need to go take back Omega from Oleg, he's a pretty coo guy and has shown mercy to everyone in this station. He treats his soldiers kindly and with dignity and respect! I want you to shoot him in the face."
Because saying that is a great way to swing Shepard over onto Arias side. 

. Shepard has been Aria's **** from day 1

Not really, you aren't forced to do anything she asks. 

[Steelcan]

In ME2 you have to go along with her to get what you want, and in ME3 her quest is downright insulting to Shepard. My renegade character should have inserted his boot up her ass and kicked her of the Citadel.

[jtav]

I just ran the latest tweet through rot13. Ieldra, I suggest you have the rant handy.

[Seival]

Do you know that literal translation of the name "Oleg" is "Sacred", or "Dedicated to the Gods"?

...Just out loud thoughts

[Lawrence0294]

"Civilian dissenters tracked to Fumi District. Deploy troopers and new mech units to eliminate. Hunt ringleaders for processing"..........

Ah forget it, i shouldn't've hoped in the first place.

[griot13]

Steelcan wrote...

In ME2 you have to go along with her to get what you want, and in ME3 her quest is downright insulting to Shepard. My renegade character should have inserted his boot up her ass and kicked her of the Citadel.

But still you don't have to do any of that, and in ME2 all you had to do was ask her for information. Side quests aren't mandatory..

[RiouHotaru]

I find it funny that people discount or ignore the fact that it's possible Petrovsky had to become more hard-edge when he realized the inhabitants of Omega weren't going to go along with him so easily. You see how they react to Cerberus' presence.

Quit thinking that because he's a reasonable general forgives the fact he's with Cerberus.

[CroGamer002]

kratos0294 wrote...

"Civilian dissenters tracked to Fumi District. Deploy troopers and new mech units to eliminate. Hunt ringleaders for processing"..........

Ah forget it, i shouldn't've hoped in the first place.

Civilians on Omega?

Hmh, are they sure they used the right word?