dr_random wrote...
I was tempted to Paragon intervene, but then I thought about the experiments and the Adjutants. I let her have it and felt a bit bad after it. But sometimes justice has to be done.
Let's not forget when Aria's eyes went black he died, way after the crack. Something fishy is going on.Mesina2 wrote...
dr_random wrote...
I was tempted to Paragon intervene, but then I thought about the experiments and the Adjutants. I let her have it and felt a bit bad after it. But sometimes justice has to be done.
You call strangling a man near death/to death is justice?!
That's no justice, that's( attempted) murder!
For me 20 lines is not enough for anything. Especially since most of those 20 lines are background exposition. I honestly have no idea what Brynn Cole's personality is like other than her abysmal tastes in men - which is the only substantial thing I actually witnessed from her.Ieldra2 wrote...
20 lines are quite enough to establish a personality and make a character represent something. May I mention that Kate Bowman is another favorite of mine?iOnlySignIn wrote...
Brynn Cole is one of your favorite characters. The 20 lines or so she has in the entire trilogy is enough to make her a favorite.
No wonder you support Synthesis.
Also, what does that have to to with Synthesis?
Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:12 .
Modifié par RiouHotaru, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:29 .
Modifié par Barquiel, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:37 .
This is - sorry to say so - plain nonsense. Even one sentence can - and usually does - convey a lot of information, not just about its subject, but often also about the person saying it. If I say "Synthesis will change the biochemistry of organics, giving them the ability to seamlessly integrate technology synthetic life is based on, which will convey on them certain advantages so far only enjoyed by synthetic life forms without affecting anyone's sense of self", this establishes a conceptual framework for the Synthesis in one sentence. I will know what it's about, and I can infer much of the rest from the context.iOnlySignIn wrote...
For me 20 lines is not enough for anything. Especially since most of those 20 lines are background exposition. I honestly have no idea what Brynn Cole's personality is like other than her abysmal tastes in men - which is the only substantial thing I actually witnessed from her.Ieldra2 wrote...
20 lines are quite enough to establish a personality and make a character represent something. May I mention that Kate Bowman is another favorite of mine?iOnlySignIn wrote...
Brynn Cole is one of your favorite characters. The 20 lines or so she has in the entire trilogy is enough to make her a favorite.
No wonder you support Synthesis.
Also, what does that have to to with Synthesis?
It is just like your support of Synthesis. You are capable of making decisions based on a minimal (practically nonexistent) amount of data.
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:05 .
to be honest Petrovsky could have been Mengele in Omega and I still would have saved him just for Invasion.Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad. Nothing new here.
. ^Mr.House wrote...
That was the sciance team stationed on Omega, Olegs job was to secure the station, take care of threats and make sure the region is stable. He is not a scientist, what Cerberus scientist do is not his issue, that's berween them and TIM.dr_random wrote...
Our_Last_Scene wrote...
My Shepard is far from a paragon but she always see's reason.
An unarmed man who surrendered, and who holds information, couldn't just be strangled by Aria in my books. I pulled her off Pretrovsky pretty quickly.
I was tempted to Paragon intervene, but then I thought about the experiments and the Adjutants. I let her have it and felt a bit bad after it. But sometimes justice has to be done.
It depends; can they feel pain? Human husks do appear to be more or less mindless, but cannibals and marauders, at least, do display some level of intelligence (and the codex states outright that marauders are intelligent). I wouldn't be at all surprised if adjutants were as well. And even things as dumb as husks might still feel pain.Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad, and even worse, it leaves the player who doesn't know Invasion to assume he was responsible for their creation in the first place. Nothing new here. I'm taking Miranda's stance from ME2 instead.
. So? I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them at all even were they sapient, but I don't think they are, they are more akin to rabid dogs, or the flood from Halo. Their only purpose is to infect more adjutants.Xilizhra wrote...
It depends; can they feel pain? Human husks do appear to be more or less mindless, but cannibals and marauders, at least, do display some level of intelligence (and the codex states outright that marauders are intelligent). I wouldn't be at all surprised if adjutants were as well. And even things as dumb as husks might still feel pain.Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad, and even worse, it leaves the player who doesn't know Invasion to assume he was responsible for their creation in the first place. Nothing new here. I'm taking Miranda's stance from ME2 instead.
. Good thing he wasn't Mengele:wizard:. Everybody wins, well Aria is still pissed, but I couldn't care lessIeldra2 wrote...
I don't know what I'd have done in that case, Steelcan, but I certainly would have lost all sympathy for the man. And objected to the presentation as character derailing.
Thankfully, that didn't happen. Surprisingly. For reasons I have outlined on the previous page, it is important to me to find halfway decent people in Cerberus.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .
You don't feel sympathy for a lot of people. A shame.. So? I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them at all even were they sapient, but I don't think they are, they are more akin to rabid dogs, or the flood from Halo. Their only purpose is to infect more adjutants.
No need for that.BTW, the ability to ****** off Aria is a real plus in my eyes. Her attitude could do with some adjusting.
Modifié par Xilizhra, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .
You have such an outstanding gift to quickly understand both technology and people that ordinary people like me can only dream of. Whichever country you're from had better put you in charge of everything - you'll solve all their problems by the end of next month.Ieldra2 wrote...
This is - sorry to say so - plain nonsense. Even one sentence can - and usually does - convey a lot of information, not just about its subject, but often also about the person saying it. If I say "Synthesis will change the biochemistry of organics, giving them the ability to seamlessly integrate technology synthetic life is based on, which will convey on them certain advantages so far only enjoyed by synthetic life forms without affecting anyone's sense of self", this establishes a conceptual framework for the Synthesis in one sentence. I will know what it's about, and I can infer much of the rest from the context.iOnlySignIn wrote...
For me 20 lines is not enough for anything. Especially since most of those 20 lines are background exposition. I honestly have no idea what Brynn Cole's personality is like other than her abysmal tastes in men - which is the only substantial thing I actually witnessed from her.
It is just like your support of Synthesis. You are capable of making decisions based on a minimal (practically nonexistent) amount of data.
Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:18 .
Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad, and even worse, it leaves the player who doesn't know Invasion to assume he was responsible for their creation in the first place. Nothing new here. I'm taking Miranda's stance from ME2 instead.
. Aria is a bloodthirsty warlord who thrives off of slavery, drug dealing, seduction, murder, etc.... She thinks she owns the galaxy and has a much inflated sense of her own self importance. She needs an adjustment.Xilizhra wrote...
You don't feel sympathy for a lot of people. A shame.. So? I wouldn't feel any sympathy for them at all even were they sapient, but I don't think they are, they are more akin to rabid dogs, or the flood from Halo. Their only purpose is to infect more adjutants.
No need for that.BTW, the ability to ****** off Aria is a real plus in my eyes. Her attitude could do with some adjusting.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:23 .
. Seems a good idea to me. They'd be great assets.Barquiel wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad, and even worse, it leaves the player who doesn't know Invasion to assume he was responsible for their creation in the first place. Nothing new here. I'm taking Miranda's stance from ME2 instead.
The scientists said they tested the "adjutant" virus on various species. They implanted Omega's citizens with control devices, then infect them with the Adjutant virus to create an army of obedient Adjutants. That's more than a bit tasteless, imo.
Did they say they used Omega's citizens? I don't think so. All I heard was them experimenting on adjutants, not creating new ones.Barquiel wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
I see experimenting on Adjutants as akin to experimenting on mindless zombies. Perhaps a bit tasteless, but not nearly on the same level as experimenting on humans.Barquiel wrote...
After hearing the logs in the lab I wouldn't have stopped Aria from killing him. But since my Shep "paragonized" Aria, he was lucky.
Of course the story suggests that it's just as bad, and even worse, it leaves the player who doesn't know Invasion to assume he was responsible for their creation in the first place. Nothing new here. I'm taking Miranda's stance from ME2 instead.
The scientists said they tested the "adjutant" virus on various species. They implanted Omega's citizens with control devices, then infect them with the Adjutant virus to create an army of obedient Adjutants. That's more than a bit tasteless, imo.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:26 .
She's also the least bad of the Terminus lords that we've seen and maintains more stability than would be found otherwise (Cerberus would not be stable). She's distasteful but necessary until a better solution can be found (although I suppose in the Control ending, the Reapers could be used to invade and pacify the Terminus, but that wouldn't be my first choice).. Aria is a bloodthirsty warlord who thrives off of slavery, drug dealing, seduction, murder, etc.... She thinks she owns the galaxy and has a much inflated sense of her own self importance. She needs an adjustment.
The originals are dead, but the new life forms are alive.As for me not feeling sympathy, if the people are already dead I don't see any need for sympathy. The adjutants are no more deserving of sympathy than husks or collectors. They are rabid dgs to be used or put down, nothing more.
. I'll be fine;)Ieldra2 w
Did they say they used Omega's citizens? I don't think so. All I heard was them experimenting on adjutants, not creating new ones.
@Steelcan:
You're about to dig your own grave, arguments-wise, in case you haven't noticed.
. Cerberus would put in order.Xilizhra wrote...
She's also the least bad of the Terminus lords that we've seen and maintains more stability than would be found otherwise (Cerberus would not be stable). She's distasteful but necessary until a better solution can be found (although I suppose in the Control ending, the Reapers could be used to invade and pacify the Terminus, but that wouldn't be my first choice).. Aria is a bloodthirsty warlord who thrives off of slavery, drug dealing, seduction, murder, etc.... She thinks she owns the galaxy and has a much inflated sense of her own self importance. She needs an adjustment.
The originals are dead, but the new life forms are alive.As for me not feeling sympathy, if the people are already dead I don't see any need for sympathy. The adjutants are no more deserving of sympathy than husks or collectors. They are rabid dgs to be used or put down, nothing more.
Modifié par Steelcan, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:34 .
I think the idea is to make experimenting on them seem bad because they were once human. It's the same reasoning that makes people destroy the Collector base because of what was done there. But past is past.Steelcan wrote...
As for me not feeling sympathy, if the people are already dead I don't see any need for sympathy. The adjutants are no more deserving of sympathy than husks or collectors. They are rabid dgs to be used or put down, nothing more.
Modifié par Ieldra2, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:38 .
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