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[clarkusdarkus]

Who the hell is petrovsky

[Ieldra]

MisterJB wrote...

Zardoc wrote...
Fix'd that for ya.

Thankfully, it's not like the other races are willing to torture other species to create shock troops or conceal judgement day bombs on homeworlds...oh wait...

Hit the nail on the head.

BTW, your sig indicates we'll be on opposite sides come DA3. That will be an interesting change

[Ieldra]

clarkusdarkus wrote...
Who the hell is petrovsky

Cerberus general from ME:Invasion, where he was a rather decent guy, as opposed to Col. Ashe, Cerberus special operative, who supported TIM's methods.

Petrovsky is also the antagonist of the Omega DLC, retconned into being a rather bad guy as it appears. And therein lies the problem.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 07 novembre 2012 - 10:30 .

[Xilizhra]

If Petrovsky is loyal to Cerberus, he dies. End of story. Shepard would go along with this as well.

In any case, it's perfectly plausible that Petrovsky would try to avoid killing civilians initially, but would let them die if they became too restive.

[N7 Assass1n]

This will probably be my basis upon, not ME3 but Bioware's initiative towards their work at all. I've already come to terms with ME3 being completely derailed by various inconsistencies/canons/retcons and Bioware being lazy... but now they have no excuse whatsoever. They have had ample time to work on this DLC, and for the sheer size of it and the cost of it, it better be worthwhile. I know I will be waiting to buy it after I see a YT walkthrough.

[GreyLycanTrope]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Cerberus hasn't changed. There was already heavy implications that TIM was subtly indoctrinated in ME2...

And in ME3 he still seems to be the "ends justify the means" type of guy.

Not sure about that being true in ME2, if the Reapers are controling him having him launch a mission to take out the Collectors and set back the Human Reaper seems counter productive.

Salvaging that Reaper from the Collector base is what I figure did him in.

[mango smoothie]

Greylycantrope wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Cerberus hasn't changed. There was already heavy implications that TIM was subtly indoctrinated in ME2...

And in ME3 he still seems to be the "ends justify the means" type of guy.

Not sure about that being true in ME2, if the Reapers are controling him having him launch a mission to take out the Collectors and set back the Human Reaper seems counter productive.

Salvaging that Reaper from the Collector base is what I figure did him in.

I thought it was pretty evident that he became indoctrinated when he put Reaper tech in himself towards the end of Mass Effect 3.

[CroGamer002]

Pretty much with the OP here.

[vonSlash]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

"Or are you supporting Aria's brutal revenge missionagainst Cerberus, the pro-humanity nutballs everybody loves to hate? “

This is why I won't be buying it, as Bioware hasn't been willing to throw even a tiny bit of concession to players who liked the ME2 (that is, the pre-indoctrination) Cerberus. A Cerberus general who could potentially defect and work with Shepard would have been exactly the right kind of apology for making Cerberus into cartoon villains with no depth in the main game.

However, the cool thing to do both on these forums and at Bioware HQ is to hate on Cerberus and silence anyone who doesn't, so Petrovsky will end up being the new carboard cutout villain this time around.

[Neizd]

We will see what will come out of this DLC. If overlord could introduce beautifull choice at the end (the last one) it's possible for omega to also do it. Like TIM said: Have a little faith.
Nyreen might yet suprise us all

[wright1978]

vonSlash wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

"Or are you supporting Aria's brutal revenge missionagainst Cerberus, the pro-humanity nutballs everybody loves to hate? “

This is why I won't be buying it, as Bioware hasn't been willing to throw even a tiny bit of concession to players who liked the ME2 (that is, the pre-indoctrination) Cerberus. A Cerberus general who could potentially defect and work with Shepard would have been exactly the right kind of apology for making Cerberus into cartoon villains with no depth in the main game.

However, the cool thing to do both on these forums and at Bioware HQ is to hate on Cerberus and silence anyone who doesn't, so Petrovsky will end up being the new carboard cutout villain this time around.

There are many of who want a reflection of the decent people within Cerberus that Petrovsky before this DLC did represent and with sensible chracterisation could represent in this DLC. Unfortunately it seems that they have abandoned more mature complex characterisation and storytelling for 'pow pow shoot the evil stormtroopers'

[fiendishchicken]

so much butthurt

[Xilizhra]

There are many of who want a reflection of the decent people within Cerberus that Petrovsky before this DLC did represent and with sensible chracterisation could represent in this DLC. Unfortunately it seems that they have abandoned more mature complex characterisation and storytelling for 'pow pow shoot the evil stormtroopers'

We got to see plenty of decent people in Cerberus. Even the not-so-decent ones like Gavin Archer could join our side. It's just that TIM and all of his loyalists are the enemy.

[GreyLycanTrope]

mango smoothie wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Cerberus hasn't changed. There was already heavy implications that TIM was subtly indoctrinated in ME2...

And in ME3 he still seems to be the "ends justify the means" type of guy.

Not sure about that being true in ME2, if the Reapers are controling him having him launch a mission to take out the Collectors and set back the Human Reaper seems counter productive.

Salvaging that Reaper from the Collector base is what I figure did him in.

I thought it was pretty evident that he became indoctrinated when he put Reaper tech in himself towards the end of Mass Effect 3.

Possible but he struck me as already loosing his marbles ahead of that. Turning on Shepard for one, when manipulating him/her would have been much more productive to using shep as diversion for the Reapers, also why try to prevent the Allaince from building the cucible if you just plan on using it anyway to contrlo the Reapers.

[CroGamer002]

Wait, I have to ask.

When and where it was told Oleg put blockade on Omega and started to starve it's residents to death?

[Applepie_Svk]

Mesina2 wrote...

Wait, I have to ask.

When and where it was told Oleg put blockade on Omega and started to starve it's residents to death?

in comics, trollface.jpg

You know what would be funny ? 

If narrative cause for Nyreen not being squadmate, will be that SHE SACRIFICE HERSELF AND JUMP INTO REACTOR, OR SHE WENT BEHIND OMEGA 4 RELAY TO BLOW CERBERUS, OR SOMETHING SIMILIAR STUPID LIKE meaningful *FORCED SACRIFICE*

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 08 novembre 2012 - 08:21 .

[jtav]

Not sure what the source is Mesina. It's horribly OOC given his meticulous care for civilians in Invasion.

[corporal doody]

dont care about the dude either way. Dude knows what Cerberus is doing....its methods...and he chooses to remain in Cerberus. If he was a commanding general for the German army in WWII and got caught by the allies...he would be tried for war crimes and HUNG by his neck till dead. 

If he really had a conscieous he would have resigned in protest or shot himself or joined up with the Alliance....not stayed on Omega knowing damned well what he was doing.

Modifié par corporal doody, 08 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .

[CroGamer002]

jtav wrote...

Not sure what the source is Mesina. It's horribly OOC given his meticulous care for civilians in Invasion.

I've watched Omega Demo and nothing was told on blockade nor starvation of Omega's residents.

So, I don't think that's legit until I see legit source or play the DLC.

And sure as hell I hope it's false.
That is incredibly OOC for Oleg.

Modifié par Mesina2, 08 novembre 2012 - 01:18 .

[spirosz]

Mesina2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Not sure what the source is Mesina. It's horribly OOC given his meticulous care for civilians in Invasion.

I've watched Omega Demo and nothing was told on blockade nor starvation of Omega's residents.

So, I don't think that's legit until I see legit source or play the DLC.

And sure as hell I hope it's false.
That is incredibly OOC for Oleg.

Nothing new for Bioware. 

[corporal doody]

Mesina2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Not sure what the source is Mesina. It's horribly OOC given his meticulous care for civilians in Invasion.

I've watched Omega Demo and nothing was told on blockade nor starvation of Omega's residents.

So, I don't think that's legit until I see legit source or play the DLC.

And sure as hell I hope it's false.
That is incredibly OOC for Oleg.

actually...they do mention the blockade during the vid. The dude playing and giving commentary says there is a fleet of Cerberus ships blockading Omega.

and Indoctrination happens....

Modifié par corporal doody, 08 novembre 2012 - 01:20 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Mesina2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Not sure what the source is Mesina. It's horribly OOC given his meticulous care for civilians in Invasion.

I've watched Omega Demo and nothing was told on blockade nor starvation of Omega's residents.

So, I don't think that's legit until I see legit source or play the DLC.

And sure as hell I hope it's false.
That is incredibly OOC for Oleg.

Do you honestly expect anything else from Cerberus related plot-arcs, Mesina?

[jtav]

Character consistency would be nice, especially since this wasn't rushed out the door.

[wright1978]

jtav wrote...

Character consistency would be nice, especially since this wasn't rushed out the door.

Character consistency should be a given. Unfortunately i'm getting the distinct vibe that nothing matters excpet having a simplistic(black & White) story to wrap lots of action around. Really hope i'm wrong and we'll get a complex story, with deep realistic characterisation and choice.

[corporal doody]

jtav wrote...

Character consistency would be nice, especially since this wasn't rushed out the door.

homeboy is starving civilians (mostly nonhumans) and slaughtering anyone who opposes their occupation of Omega...for the greater good. It hurts his feelings....but he is doing it for the betterment of mankind.