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[Tyrax Lightning]

My Motherboard for my new puder is on it's way, then it'll be time to get the CPU next. It's got rave reviews for the CPU performance so i've set myself on it, but the reviews caution that it's Heatsink & Thermal Grease is only so-so in worthiness. I want this next puder to have a VERY long & healthy life, so i'm seriously considering attempting to spend a little more bucks to power up the Heatsink & Thermal Grease setup for the new puder. (You may remember me from my 'PSU choice feedback' thread.)

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128392
CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103656

I'm finding Heatsink intel VERY hard to find, especially trying to seek both quality & Heatsink to Motherboard & CPU compatibility. Then after that, I gotta find out if it'll fit in the physical space on the Motherboard & in the case without covering or comprimising access to other stuff in the case, including but not limited to stuff slots & case fans.

This Heatsink caught my eye after I spotted it in a CPU review for the CPU i'm getting:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835118003

This reviewer used this Heatsink with the same CPU as my choice, but did not specify the Motherboard in that person's build.

Reviewers also gave this Thermal Grease rave reviews & i've looked it up & it seems to be fiercly popular & maybe even outright loved: (I swear ----->  <------ were flying around all over most of those reviews. I've never ever seen that before for ANY puder part i've ever researched.)

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16835100007

I've attempted to measure the Heatsink specs in my case, but my results are inconclusive. I'm unsure if it'll avoid conflict with my case sidewall fan (The kind that is mounted onto a case sidewall that is also partially windowed to look inside the case through the wall.) & it's correct orientation onto the CPU might put it's fan over the top of some of my Motherboard choice's RAM slots. Lastly, i'm concerned about if this Heatsink is even compatible with my Motherboard choice or it's AM3 Socket type. (Why the buggers is Heatsink to Socket/CPU compatibility intel so hard to find? It's critical info!)

I'll make do with the default Heatsink if I have to, but I really seriously am tempted to maximize the lifespan of this new puder build. (Especially if it manages to turn out to be totally epic!) Please help! If this Heatsink &/or Thermal Grease choice won't work, i'd welcome aid in choosing ones that will.

Many thanks for your time in advance, & I really hope i'm not getting annoying.

[Sa Seba]

Don't get arctic silver, buy arctic cooling MX2 instead. Arctic silver is elec. conductive, if you get it anywhere onto contacts....., plus MX2 is more performant, without needing a long cure-in time.

[Tyrax Lightning]

Sa Seba wrote...

Don't get arctic silver, buy arctic cooling MX2 instead. Arctic silver is elec. conductive, if you get it anywhere onto contacts....., plus MX2 is more performant, without needing a long cure-in time.

Many thanks!  I looked it up & I take it it's an upgrade from the AS-5.

Still hoping for Heatsink help.

[Sa Seba]

MX2:
www.ncixus.com/products/26895/MX-2T/Arctic%20Cooling/

Coolermaster Hyper 212:
www.ncixus.com/products/41337/RR-B10-212P-GP/COOLERMASTER/
Review: www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/19383-cooler-master-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review.html

OCZ Vendetta 2:
www.ncixus.com/products/29311/OCZTVEND2/OCZ%20Technology/
Review: same link as above

I personally have the Vendetta 2 for my AMD 720 BE, keeps it nicely cool at 3.6 GHz.
The coolermaster has basically the same performance. You won't find a better price performance ratio than the coolermaster's.

I have ordered from ncix many a times, but from their canadian page that is. Nonetheless, they are just as good as newegg. Sometimes neweeg has a product that ncix doesn't, or it's the other way around ;-)

Modifié par Sa Seba, 03 janvier 2010 - 07:49 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

Sa Seba wrote...

MX2:
www.ncixus.com/products/26895/MX-2T/Arctic%20Cooling/

Coolermaster Hyper 212:
www.ncixus.com/products/41337/RR-B10-212P-GP/COOLERMASTER/
Review: www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/19383-cooler-master-hyper-212-plus-cpu-cooler-review.html

OCZ Vendetta 2:
www.ncixus.com/products/29311/OCZTVEND2/OCZ%20Technology/
Review: same link as above

I personally have the Vendetta 2 for my AMD 720 BE, keeps it nicely cool at 3.6 GHz.
The coolermaster has basically the same performance. You won't find a better price performance ratio than the coolermaster's.

I have ordered from ncix many a times, but from their canadian page that is. Nonetheless, they are just as good as newegg. Sometimes neweeg has a product that ncix doesn't, or it's the other way around ;-)

Many thanks!  I researched the MX-2 & the Cooler Master & they both defeated my current selections, so they're the new current top pick! (No complaints here, for I was worried about if the Zalman would fit in my case even if it did have a way to be compatible.) I measured in my Case as well & dare to hope that the Heatsink will at least barely fit. I also appreciate the review page since it not only helped the research, but it has info on the installation that'll help if the instructions manage to be inferior help. The info for the Cooler Master also lists confirmed compatibility with my Motherboard upgrade's Socket type, AM3.

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 04 janvier 2010 - 02:37 .

[Sa Seba]

That stuff is my hobby, so it was fun for me ;-)

Don't hesitate to ask for more.

[Tyrax Lightning]

Sa Seba wrote...

That stuff is my hobby, so it was fun for me ;-)
Don't hesitate to ask for more.

Sure! The Heatsink seems to hold 2 120mm Fans & the review recommended 2000 RPMs. Know any good Fans of the lowest cost possible that meet this criteria? Can handle noise level up to 'low' for normal performance & will put up with some noise if the puder starts struggling at it's processing, because high fan noise can act as a warning of puder processing struggle.

I want my CPU to stay safe from overheat danger even in middle of summer heat waves!

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 04 janvier 2010 - 10:20 .

[Ravenshrike]

Homemade diamond grease. http://hackedgadgets...thermal-grease/



About 3-5 times as effective as arctic silver and electrically non-conductive.

[Tyrax Lightning]

Ravenshrike wrote...

Homemade diamond grease. http://hackedgadgets...thermal-grease/

About 3-5 times as effective as arctic silver and electrically non-conductive.

Many thanks for your feedback, but with all due respect, i'm nervous of the thought of visiting a site with the word 'hacked' in it...

[Tyrax Lightning]

It's lookin like I got my Heatsink of choice, but I might have to cancel the MX-2 Grease & hope the Grease that comes with the Heatsink is good enough. The CPU-Heatsink-120mm Fans x2 is getting painful. (Now the new most painful part of the build, but I stand by my logic that getting this CPU & then not protecting it adequately would be completely sloppy, if not stupid.) The Heatsink comes with a Fan, but if I don't put 2 Fans on this thing, then I might as well have settled for the Stock Cooler. (Bleh.)

I've got planning to do first though. I need to plan this thing out & find out if I can successfully setup up these 2 CPU Fans, my existing Case Fans, (1 rear 3-Pin, 1 side Molex) & still Molex connect my DVD-ROM (When it finishes it's life-span, it's replacement will be a SATA DVD-ROM.) & my stupid Floppy Drive. (Are Floppy Drives even useful anymore?)

Here's the situation: (Placed all here in this post for easier comparison.)

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813128392
Motherboard Close-Up: http://www.newegg.co...AMD Motherboard

CPU: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16819103656

Heatsink: http://www.newegg.co... Hyper 212 Plus (Why didn't they provide 2 fans with this thing? )

Fans x2: http://www.newegg.co...3-060-_-Product

Even with the MX-2 Grease outta the pic, the combined cost for the CPU part of the plan is $188ish bucks!  IF a way can be found to hook this all up. I've looked up the Motherboard connectors in it's instruction book, & it's got:

CPU_FAN
PWR_FAN
SYS_FAN1
SYS_FAN2

These are the possible options for Fan hook-ups. Somehow, the 2 Heatsink Fans, a rear Case Fan, & a side Case Fan all need to hook up together.

I stumbled upon an interesting item & wouldn't say no to intel on it:

Directron 3-Pin Splitter to Allow Powerful Fans Plugged Directly to Power Supply, yet still monitoring temperature, *RP3*

http://www.directron.../3splitter.html

If this item turns out to be of use, I can surf around & price-shop on it. If not useful, then I can't seriously say I would mind a bit.

Many thanks for feedback!

Edit: I shoulda mentioned the 1st time, I have no trouble hookin up Stock Coolers, but this is the 1st Heatsink i've EVER had that had 2 Case Fans for hookup. I've never done trying to hook up 2 Case Fans as Heatsink Fans before & am seriously nervous of the thought of screwing up at it & getting my new puder blown up, especially trying to maintain puder capability to sense CPU Temperature for it's own safety.

Modifié par Tyrax Lightning, 09 janvier 2010 - 06:07 .

[Tyrax Lightning]

My apologies for this shameful bump, but I seriously don't wanna blow up my new puder after all the work & cash of getting it built. I need this intel.

[Tyrax Lightning]

Another thought has occured to me. I can't tell if the Fans I am considering have Temperature Sensing capability. If any of ya have this model of Fan & happen to know about it, I would be grateful for a response. (NewEgg info on the Fan is failing to address this, & it's important. ) If the Fan doesn't have the Temperature Sensing capability, I might wanna consider getting only 1 & hope it's default Fan has the Temperature Sensor.

[Sa Seba]

Fan temp sensors are silly. The CPU fan is monitored and controlled through PWM, which increases the fan speed according to temperature of the CPU.

That coolermaster heatsink with the fan that comes with it is more than enough for that CPU, even when heavily overclocked.



The CPU fan goes into CPU_FAN,

The 3 pin case fan goes in SYS_FAN1 and the Molex one directly to the power supply.



That's all thats necessary.

If you really want to improve airflow and temperatures above standard, it's going to cost money (case, fans, fan controller (except in antec cases))

[Tyrax Lightning]

Many thanks for the info! I already have a few years old case that naturally came with a side-wall Case Fan, & a prior build CaseFan. They're bein reused in this build, especially because the case is never abused so it has no excuse not to last many more years. The fans, on the other hand, I dunno how much life they got left, but they're easy to replace, so i'll go ahead & wait on worrying about that. If the Heatsink free Fan will work after all, no complaints here. I want my CPU to stay safe, but I don't wanna need more resources than can be helped either.

[tranj84cl]

If you're just looking for a CPU to be safe, most aftermarket fans that fit the socket are fine enough. If you aren't OCing, then the stock fan is usually enough. Depending on how comfortable you are using sandpaper, you can also sand down, or "lap" your processor and heatsink. Better contact means better cooling.



Personally, the key for me is silence. The fan that is on whichever heatsink you choose can be replaced by a much more silent fan.

[Tyrax Lightning]

I don't wanna OC, but want my CPU to have enough OC cooling power in case I ever need more CPU power later, then I can OC for the rest of the CPU lifespan, instead of it ending up outmode right there on the spot. Plus I want my CPU to stay cool even in middle of summer heat waves.



(Aka I'll OC when hardware requirements make me, but until then I want maximum lifespan.)

[Tyrax Lightning]

The CPU & Heatsink are incoming to me. That Heatsink is the personal bodyguard of what I hope will be a CPU I can fall in love with, I expect fierce power outta it.



Many thanks to all for the feedback!