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If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis


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CosmicGnosis

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If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<

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What good things am I supposedly headcanoning about Destroy?

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Is 'headcanon' really the most mature term to use for this sort of thing?

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silentassassin264

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Headcanon makes the world go round...and then flat. and then round again.

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CosmicGnosis wrote...

If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<


Hole No. 1: Who's headcanon-ing anything about Destroy?

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Destroy ending headcanons.
1. people are okay with no longer having synthetics.
2. all of your squadmates approve of it, joker fine with losing edi, quarians fine with losing geth.
3. catalyst is lying, this is not provable with any in game content.
4. that it's the only solution
5. that the other endings are traps
6. that the other endings are bad
7. that the other endings are somehow playing into the reapers hands and doom the galaxy.

So the op is wrong and not wrong at the same time. Rather that destroy being headcanoned, it's that people who pick destroy headcanon negative consequences onto the other endings and treat it as actual lore.

Modifié par xsdob, 08 novembre 2012 - 03:40 .


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I can't see much potential for positive headcanoning in Control since Holoshep is pretty clear about what he/she is going to do. As for Synthesis, go ahead.

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What xsdob said. It isn't so much that that destroyers or refusers headcanon their endings to be the best, it is that they headcanon the other endings to be war crimes to justify their course of action as the only correct one.

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[quote]xsdob wrote...

Destroy ending headcanons.
1. people are okay with no longer having synthetics.
2. all of your squadmates approve of it
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You've clearly never sided with the quarians if you think the majority of characters aren't perfectly happy with you killing synthetics.


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3. catalyst is lying, this is not provable with any in game content.
4. that it's the only solution
5. that the other endings are traps
7. that the other endings are somehow playing into the reapers hands and doom the galaxy.
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Yeah, I don't think any of that is true.
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xsdob wrote...

Destroy ending headcanons.
1. people are okay with no longer having synthetics.
2. all of your squadmates approve of it, joker fine with losing edi, quarians fine with losing geth.
3. catalyst is lying, this is not provable with any in game content.
4. that it's the only solution
5. that the other endings are traps
6. that the other endings are bad
7. that the other endings are somehow playing into the reapers hands and doom the galaxy.

So the op is wrong and not wrong at the same time. Rather that destroy being headcanoned, it's that people who pick destroy headcanon negative consequences onto the other endings and treat it as actual lore.

1. As I see it, only Reaper tech is targeted, so EDI is the only casualty. There's no evidence to the contrary.
2. Shepard and Joker are bound to have a VERY difficult conversation about this in the near future, but yeah - the Quarians were fine with losing the Geth. :devil:
3. Can't prove he's lying, but I reject his premise - there's a limit to how deep I'm willing to wade into his bulls*** when people are dying by the hundreds with every passing moment.
4. No, it isn't.
5. Not necessarily. I reject IT.
6. Synthesis? Yes. Control? Not to my liking, but a viable outcome.
7. Depends on your take of the Leviathan situation. I didn't get the DLC and have no plan to do so, so in my canon they don't exist. Call it the Ostrich Strategem. ;)

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Wait, you need headcanon to make Synthesis and Control out to be despicably moronic acts? Thought that was pretty evident just by listening to Space Casper.

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You're welcome to. But if you keep posting your thoughts here expect others to comment on them. And if you are promoting synthesis then be prepared for "some" disagreement.

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CosmicGnosis

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David7204 wrote...

Is 'headcanon' really the most mature term to use for this sort of thing?


It's a popular term in this forum. Don't criticize me for using it.

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silentassassin264 wrote...

What xsdob said. It isn't so much that that destroyers or refusers headcanon their endings to be the best, it is that they headcanon the other endings to be war crimes to justify their course of action as the only correct one.


That's not headcanon...
They are ****ing war crimes...

Refuse is the only one that isn't...


That shouldn't be up for debate...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:08 .


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you welcome...

people never head-canon about shepard in control is sending his reaper to the sun
after rebuild the galaxy.

no no, no one ever head-canon that in synthesis everyone is fine with it and it's not
a forced evolution.

feel free to head-canon whatever you like, it's your story after all.

Modifié par d-boy15, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:16 .


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Zardoc wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<


Hole No. 1: Who's headcanon-ing anything about Destroy?


So many people have plugged their ears and screamed thatthey didn't kill off all Synthetics. It's really sad and pathetic but also a tad funny. 

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Bill Casey wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

What xsdob said. It isn't so much that that destroyers or refusers headcanon their endings to be the best, it is that they headcanon the other endings to be war crimes to justify their course of action as the only correct one.


That's not headcanon...
They are ****ing war crimes...

Refuse is the only one that isn't...


That shouldn't be up for debate...


But Refuse is willfully picking Galatic wide extinction....

Modifié par Eterna5, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:30 .


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Eterna5 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<


Hole No. 1: Who's headcanon-ing anything about Destroy?


So many people have plugged their ears and screamed thatthey didn't kill off all Synthetics. It's really sad and pathetic but also a tad funny. 

How many is so many? Five to six?

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JaceBelerin wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<


Hole No. 1: Who's headcanon-ing anything about Destroy?


So many people have plugged their ears and screamed thatthey didn't kill off all Synthetics. It's really sad and pathetic but also a tad funny. 

How many is so many? Five to six?


Ten Thousand. 

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JaceBelerin

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Eterna5 wrote...

JaceBelerin wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Zardoc wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

If you can headcanon good things about Destroy, then I can headcanon good things about Control and Synthesis. Especially Synthesis because its short-term and long-term consequences are the most ambiguous.

Poke holes in this argument. <_<


Hole No. 1: Who's headcanon-ing anything about Destroy?


So many people have plugged their ears and screamed thatthey didn't kill off all Synthetics. It's really sad and pathetic but also a tad funny. 

How many is so many? Five to six?


Ten Thousand. 

That's over 9000!

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 You can also headcanon bad things, like Shepard going insane and killing everyone in Control, or all the Reaper corpses Indocctrinating everyone fulfilling their plan anyways in Destroy, or even EDI turning everyone  into slaves by hacking them in Synthesis since they are all partially synthetic.

See headcanon is fun and easy.

:wizard:

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Ha ha, no

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Eterna5 wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

What xsdob said. It isn't so much that that destroyers or refusers headcanon their endings to be the best, it is that they headcanon the other endings to be war crimes to justify their course of action as the only correct one.


That's not headcanon...
They are ****ing war crimes...

Refuse is the only one that isn't...


That shouldn't be up for debate...


But Refuse is willfully picking Galatic wide extinction....

Better to watch the world burn than stain one's hands to avert it? :huh:

I'm sure the soldier whose spouse was turned into a husk and whose infant daughter was rendered into grey paste will be glad to know that Shepard's conscience is clear while they watch Sword Fleet burn in the sky over Earth.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 08 novembre 2012 - 04:48 .


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Eterna5 wrote...

But Refuse is willfully picking Galatic wide extinction....


No it isn't...
You aren't picking anything...

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I do that all the time.
In my headcanon for Synthesis, Falare is cured of her Ardat-Yakshi gene, then Samara gave me her blessing!! Oh, waaaiiiit... I died... Uh, I surfed the extranet, and hacked Liara's body? Well, she said, "I'm yours!" So, I took that literally... Then the crime for body-jacking started!