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[Bill Casey]

clennon8 wrote...

Yes, yes, we're out to ruin your ending, Ieldra2. It's just pure malice on our part. Paranoid much? It couldn't just be that we're saying that the last ten minutes of the game is the completely logical culmination of the previous one hundred hours of fighting space-Chthulus that go around indoctrinating every one, could it? No. That's not it. That would be weird, wouldn't it? Haha. How strange of us to think that. Indoctrination. What wacko conspiracy theorists we are, thinking the ending of a game about indoctrination was about indoctrination. Nah. That couldn't be. What would be normal is a sudden and completely unearned reversal of every theme and lesson we had learned in the first 99.5% of the story line, based on an "exposition dump" from the Reaper overlord. In the guise of a little boy. From your dreams. What would be normal is putting down Saren, who believed merging with the Reapers was a good idea, and then deciding to, um, merge with the Reapers. What would be normal is putting down TIM, who turned himself into a half-husk in an attempt to control the Reapers, and then five minutes later huskifying yourself to control the Reapers. You're right, Ieldra. We IT'ists are so unreasonable.

ahahahahahahahahahahaha...

It's funny because it's so blatant...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 09 novembre 2012 - 01:44 .

[ghost9191]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

^ Was that English?? =

wish i could say the lack of intelligence in your response was a surprise , but sadly it is not

not a insult just confirms my prior post about you

[teh DRUMPf!!]

clennon8 wrote...

I hear buzzing. I'm not sure if it's indoctrination, or just... Oh, yep, it's just a fly.

The sad part is, this is about the best this gato can do. 

[Xilizhra]

magnetite wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Short answer: IT is false.

People won't accept IT unless the devs basically tell them that's what they intended. They can't seem to use a little logic and reason or think for themselves. A general trait of newer generations. They have to be told that IT is what the ending is. Even with all the clues in the game they won't believe it unless they hear it from the source.

Um... yeah, that's about right. It isn't canon until it's been shown to be canon in a way that doesn't require subjective interpretation.

[Xilizhra]

magnetite wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Um... yeah, that's about right. It isn't canon until it's been shown to be canon in a way that doesn't require subjective interpretation.

There is no canon interpretation just like there is no canon Shepard. If people want to believe in space magic that's fine too, but at least maybe try and figure out what the ending might have been. I think Bioware said this summer they made the endings ambiguous on purpose. It's up to *you*, the player, to decide what the actual ending is, not Bioware.

Which is fine right up until you start claiming that in my ending, I wound up dooming the galaxy objectively.

[SquirrelWiz]

Yes, you can head canon good things about control/synthesis.

I think why everybody head canons good things about destroy is that it is the only ending that we KNOW will end the Reaper threat before we take it. This means we do not include any foreknowledge about the endings, and whether we feel the Star Child is telling the entire truth.

[Asharad Hett]

You can't have Synthesis or Control, because we started this journey with the intent to destroy the enemy.


I'm just kidding.  You can like Synth or Control, but I also retain the right to think you are a fool for liking it. 

Modifié par Asharad Hett, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:12 .

[Sovereign330]

Headcanon is you projecting what happens in the future. You write the future.

[Sovereign330]

Asharad Hett wrote...

You can't have Synthesis or Control, because we started this journey with the intent to destroy the enemy.


I'm just kidding.  You can like Synth or Control, but I also retain the right to think you are a fool for liking it. 

You can think that, but it makes you look very opinionated and condescending.

[plfranke]

Sovereign330 wrote...

Asharad Hett wrote...

You can't have Synthesis or Control, because we started this journey with the intent to destroy the enemy.


I'm just kidding.  You can like Synth or Control, but I also retain the right to think you are a fool for liking it. 

You can think that, but it makes you look very opinionated and condescending.

No it doesn't. It makes him look right.

[Asharad Hett]

Sovereign330 wrote...

Asharad Hett wrote...

You can't have Synthesis or Control, because we started this journey with the intent to destroy the enemy.


I'm just kidding.  You can like Synth or Control, but I also retain the right to think you are a fool for liking it. 

You can think that, but it makes you look very opinionated and condescending.

If you intended to insult me, you failed.  Because I am very opinionated and condescending.

[Sovereign330]

Asharad Hett wrote...

Sovereign330 wrote...

Asharad Hett wrote...

You can't have Synthesis or Control, because we started this journey with the intent to destroy the enemy.


I'm just kidding.  You can like Synth or Control, but I also retain the right to think you are a fool for liking it. 

You can think that, but it makes you look very opinionated and condescending.

If you intended to insult me, you failed.  Because I am very opinionated and condescending.

Na...I dont insult. Im pointing it out. I have different playthroughs with different ending choices. All have merit in my opinion. I dont think youre a fool if you choose destroy. I dont think youre a fool if you choose control. I dont think youre a fool if you choose synthesis. Hell, even if you choose refuse which kills everybody., I still dont think youre a fool and respect your choice. There is no right or wrong here. There is only the choice.

[CosmicGnosis]

It's amazing that anyone who decides to interpret Synthesis and Control differently is essentially labeled a moron.

And you see, I've never accused Destroy supporters of being morons. I understand the appeal of Destroy. But I see the merits in the other choices as well, and I find them to be more attractive because they are exotic. I like the "weirdness".

But no, I'm a fool. That's the only possibility. And I've been railroaded into a single ending. Wonderful.

[Sovereign330]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

It's amazing that anyone who decides to interpret Synthesis and Control differently is essentially labeled a moron.

And you see, I've never accused Destroy supporters of being morons. I understand the appeal of Destroy. But I see the merits in the other choices as well, and I find them to be more attractive because they are exotic. I like the "weirdness".

But no, I'm a fool. That's the only possibility. And I've been railroaded into a single ending. Wonderful.

Thank you for understanding. I appreciate it a great deal. The goals themselves (control and synthesis) are not as important as the intent (how you use it)....For example...controlling reapers to make humans dominate the galaxy (The Illusive Man) is NOT the same as using the reapers to PROTECT the galaxy (Shepard) . People always assume the worst on this cynical and negative forum.

[CosmicGnosis]

I'm seriously considering just giving up on these discussions. Most of you have decided that you will never budge, that you will never consider new perspectives. I'm sorry for presenting my thoughts here.

Edit: I won't abandon the entire forum, but I'll stop making ending-related threads.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:46 .

[Asharad Hett]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I'm seriously considering just giving up on these discussions. Most of you have decided that you will never budge, that you will never consider new perspectives. I'm sorry for presenting my thoughts here.

It's not your fault that Bioware screwed the pooch and left us to pick the least of 3 (4?) evils.  I don't see any of the endings as good.  I struggle with handcanon for any ending, especially after the EC. 

I really don't like any of the endings.  But if you make me pick one, there is only one option in my opinion.  That's MY opinion, and you have yours.  There is nothing wrong with us having a disagreement, if you can accept that I think you are wrong.  I accept that you think I am wrong and condescending. 

[ghost9191]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I'm seriously considering just giving up on these discussions. Most of you have decided that you will never budge, that you will never consider new perspectives. I'm sorry for presenting my thoughts here.

1) i must of missed the point of these threads. didn't seem so much as gain new perspective but ew destroy

2) i like gaining perspective. which is why i go to control and synthesis support threads. it is not my choice but still interesting

3) i never called someone a moron for picking synthesis or control. and i have seen synthesis supporters and control supporters call destroyers some pretty hurtful names also .

just saying don't add me to that group of ppl . i like perspective , just doubt someone else can convince me to change my mind . as i have said sooo many times. all endings are good and bad. and are right depending on your moral compass. only you can make your choice . but don't let that stop you from being open minded

plus synthesis and control is obviously for morons

joke ^^


edit: you don't have to stop making threads about them. but most of yours come off anti *insert choice* or pro *insert choice* , mostly against destroy , which may be why you get some hate most of the time

Modifié par ghost9191, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:54 .

[Sovereign330]

Asharad Hett wrote...

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I'm seriously considering just giving up on these discussions. Most of you have decided that you will never budge, that you will never consider new perspectives. I'm sorry for presenting my thoughts here.

It's not your fault that Bioware screwed the pooch and left us to pick the least of 3 (4?) evils.  I don't see any of the endings as good.  I struggle with handcanon for any ending, especially after the EC. 

I really don't like any of the endings.  But if you make me pick one, there is only one option in my opinion.  That's MY opinion, and you have yours.  There is nothing wrong with us having a disagreement, if you can accept that I think you are wrong.  I accept that you think I am wrong and condescending. 

Now THAT I can respect. I think its easier to accept that when youre an advocate for one chopice specifically..But for a guy like me...theres something good and bad in all of them..Thats just me though

[Sovereign330]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

I'm seriously considering just giving up on these discussions. Most of you have decided that you will never budge, that you will never consider new perspectives. I'm sorry for presenting my thoughts here.

Edit: I won't abandon the entire forum, but I'll stop making ending-related threads.

HOWEVER. I dont blame you...its more fighting and arguing as opposed to enjoyable speculation and imagining the wonders of the universe

[spotlessvoid]

I demand my choice to merge with the Reapers be respected!

[ghost9191]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I demand my choice to merge with the Reapers be respected!

"you don't get to make demands of the council"  

[spotlessvoid]

ghost9191 wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I demand my choice to merge with the Reapers be respected!

"you don't get to make demands of the council"  

It's not indoctrination if I willingly do it.

[Hey]

Of course you can. Never give up.