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[Chief Commander]

Some of you may know of the mod that completely changes the ending (no starchild, no deaths, shep survives, reunion) Link here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/368/index/14795358

And as I watched the new modded ending I asked myself "Bioware, was it really that hard to do this yourself?" It´s pretty much what the majority of community wants, the polls prove this. And with some professional work it would have looked and sounded even better. Why not just retcon the endings and make what the mod shows canon? Shep can retire with his/her LI and the galaxy is a happy place without some organic-robot freaks running around.

Would you support this? I for once would even pay for it, just to finally come to peace with the series.

So Bioware throw away the "artistic integrity" and for once make your community happy and make amends after lying to us and treating us to this horrible conclusion of our beloved series.

[LilLino]

I don't agree. I prefer Bioware's ending. This mod actually offers less choice than the original and doesn't explain the Reapers origins nor goals.

If the ending was like this I'd be pissed.

No, I really appreciate modder's good work, it's very nice of him, but don't turn his good will to a weapon against Bioware and it's employees. I doubt he'd want that.

Modifié par LilLino, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:53 .

[garrusfan1]

Yes if it has a possibility for a happy ending yes I would pay for it

[His Name was HYR!!]

 MEHEM is impressive and I'd probably be okay with it if that was how ME3 ended.

If I knew what I know now, I'd prefer ECE.

I don't see any of the gripes you listed (starchild, casualties, Shepard dies, reunion) as legitimate negatives.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:56 .

[Ithurael]

The reunion/memorial scene is the only thing I wish bioware would implement for High EMS destroy. Make players earn that scene.

[Applepie_Svk]

over 9000...

[P_sutherland]

LilLino wrote...

I don't agree. I prefer Bioware's ending. This mod actually offers less choice than the original and doesn't explain the Reapers origins nor goals.

If the ending was like this I'd be pissed.

No, I really appreciate modder's good work, it's very nice of him, but don't turn his good will to a weapon against Bioware and it's employees. I doubt he'd want that.

exactly... it reamins a mystery... that would of been even better.

[Chief Commander]

LilLino wrote...

I don't agree. I prefer Bioware's ending. This mod actually offers less choice than the original and doesn't explain the Reapers origins nor goals.

If the ending was like this I'd be pissed.

So you really think the origins of the Reapers are properly explained? Kill you, so you don´t kill yourself? Is that logic in your eyes? I absolutely hated to know why the Reapers were created. Because it´s not about the "why they want to kill you?". It´s about Shepard being such a great character and commander that he/she can unite a whole galaxy and overcome the greatest threat in history.

And plus there is alwaysthe option for a DLC if you want to explain the motives of the Reapers.Maybe with enough time BW would have even come up with something more believable.

LilLino wrote...

No,
I really appreciate modder's good work, it's very nice of him, but
don't turn his good will to a weapon against Bioware and it's employers.
I doubt he'd want that.

I can´t speak for the modder of course, but i don´t think he wouldn´t have done the mod if he would have though "well no one wants this anyway" or "i disagre with the endings".

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 MEHEM is impressive and I'd probably be okay with it if that was how ME3 ended.

If I knew what I know now, I'd prefer ECE.

I don't see any of the gripes you listed (starchild, casualties, Shepard dies, reunion) as necessary for a good ending.

So you are perfectly fine with the magic introduction of the space child? With the geth dying after your hard work to make peace? With basically forcing a genetic modification on the galaxy (Not even close to being better than the Reapers)? With your Shepard dying (or not)? We don´t even know what happens with him/her.

If you played through all 3 of the games from the start this is hugely disappointing.

Modifié par Chief Commander, 08 novembre 2012 - 05:59 .

[jtav]

It's impressive from a sheer technical standpoint, but I much prefer the EC.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Why is it so hard to accept that some people may prefer Bioware's endings over this?

[GreyLycanTrope]

I know which one I prefer.

[LilLino]

Chief Commander wrote...

LilLino wrote...

I don't agree. I prefer Bioware's ending. This mod actually offers less choice than the original and doesn't explain the Reapers origins nor goals.

If the ending was like this I'd be pissed.

So you really think the origins of the Reapers are properly explained? Kill you, so you don´t kill yourself? Is that logic in your eyes? I absolutely hated to know why the Reapers were created. Because it´s not about the "why they want to kill you?". It´s about Shepard being such a great character and commander that he/she can unite a whole galaxy and overcome the greatest threat in history.

And plus there is alwaysthe option for a DLC if you want to explain the motives of the Reapers.Maybe with enough time BW would have even come up with something more believable.

It's been said in ME1 that Reapers motivation are incomprehensible to organic mind and that's exactly what I got.
I got logic so weird, so twisted and deprived of any emotions I want to kill Reapers, badly, for this.

And not knowing how Reapers were created? As said, I'd be pissed. I don't want mysteries unsolved. I think my 1st post was quite clear on that.

And how can you even say that their story is not believable? Jesus, it's a story of Giant Homocidal Mechanical Cuttlefish Firing Giant Red Las0rs From Dark Space trying to kill organic life.
What kind of writing did you expect to justify that? Shakespearean?

[His Name was HYR!!]

Chief Commander wrote...

So you are perfectly fine with the magic introduction of the space child?

Introduction? No. General concept? Yes.

With the geth dying after your hard work to make peace?

A tacked-on consequence to an ending with a tacked-on benefit.

With basically forcing a genetic modification on the galaxy (Not even close to being better than the Reapers)?

You: "Have you stopped bheating your wife yet?"

With your Shepard dying

For the ones that did, yes.

(or not)?

For my Destroy Shepards, yes. They lived, and there is no question about it.

We don´t even know what happens with him/her.

I do.

If you played through all 3 of the games from the start this is hugely disappointing.

It's only disappointing if you require a juvenille power-trip fantasy, like what ME2's ending gave the player, to enjoy.

Modifié par HYR 2.0, 08 novembre 2012 - 06:11 .

[Dr_Extrem]

its not really about how the game ended. if an ending like this would have been part of the original game, the ****storm would not have been this big.

the endings are bad - 9/10 points on the star trek 5 scale - bioware has done and can do better.

the starchild disclaimed nothing - it was mor like: "people build robots, robots kill people, we preserve people by killing them first." that is not an explanation of the goals, it is bs.

to me, it was an unwritten law, that bioware provides at least one happier and one evil ending. it has been like this in all of their games - except mass effect.


if they have an addon in the making, that kicks in after the choice, they pulled off an epic stunt. i dont beleave it though.

HYR 2.0 wrote...

If you played through all 3 of the games from the start this is hugely disappointing.

It's only disappointing if you require a juvenille power-trip fantasy, like what ME2's ending gave the player, to enjoy.

the endings of mass effect 1 and 2 wanted me to have sex - the ending of part three, wanted me to empty my fridge ... that says a lot

Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 08 novembre 2012 - 06:13 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

@ LilLino
They're motivations are supposed to be beyond our comprehension as in beyond our grasp, we can grasp their motivation, it's just completely stupid.

I'd settle for something bit less contrived than what we got thanks

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 08 novembre 2012 - 06:12 .

[Sovereign330]

Ithurael wrote...

The reunion/memorial scene is the only thing I wish bioware would implement for High EMS destroy. Make players earn that scene.

Would not mind this

[Zardoc]

LilLino wrote...


No, I really appreciate modder's good work, it's very nice of him, but don't turn his good will to a weapon against Bioware and it's employees. I doubt he'd want that.

[KingZayd]

pirate1802 wrote...

Why is it so hard to accept that some people may prefer Bioware's endings over this?

because it'd be difficult to create a worse ending without trying to do so?

[Dr_Extrem]

this mod should be seen as what it is - a fan made mod, that is the headconon for high ems destroy. thats all - nothing more, nothing less.

it helps a lot of people, to replay the whole series - thats a win for mass effect. and yes, an ending like this should have been in the game from day one on - especially, since it is the last part of the series.


as long, as bioware does nothing to the endings, we have at least an anesthecit or consolation.

[Dr_Extrem]

pirate1802 wrote...

Why is it so hard to accept that some people may prefer Bioware's endings over this?

you can prefer what ever you want. it is not about getting rid of the endings, it is about adding one ending, like this. the choice is up to you. nobody has to play a happier ending - but now, we all have to play the grim ones.

[Chief Commander]

LilLino wrote...

It's been said in ME1 that Reapers motivation are incomprehensible to organic mind and that's exactly what I got.
I got logic so weird, so twisted and deprived of any emotions I want to kill Reapers, badly, for this.

And not knowing how Reapers were created? As said, I'd be pissed. I don't want mysteries unsolved. I think my 1st post was quite clear on that.

And how can you even say that their story is not believable? Jesus, it's a story of Giant Homocidal Mechanical Cuttlefish Firing Giant Red Las0rs From Dark Space trying to kill organic life.
What kind of writing did you expect to justify that? Shakespearean?

EXACTLY! Organics simply cannot comprehend their motivations. We are organics, in case you haven´t noticed. So why should we all of a sudden be able to understand? It´s simply a very stupid explanation for something that should have been left in the dark (or properly explained without making the Reapers look absolutely dumb).

I didn´t want any writing to explain that. I simply wanted to kill them for what they have done.

@HYR
You´re not even making any sense now.  Beating wifes? And about the endings of Mass Effect 1 and 2. They were both deemed impossible. Yet Shepard did it AND survived. I wanted exactly that.

Dr_Extrem wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Why is it so hard to accept that some people may prefer Bioware's endings over this?

you can prefer what ever you want. it is not about getting rid of the endings, it is about adding one ending, like this. the choice is up to you. nobody has to play a happier ending - but now, we all have to play the grim ones.

Yes exactly. It should be an option, at the very least. Everyone is happy.

[Pantegana]

Greylycantrope wrote...

@ LilLino
They're motivations are supposed to be beyond our comprehension as in beyond our grasp, we can grasp their motivation, it's just completely stupid.

I'd settle for something bit less contrived than what we got thanks

 "It..it is not something you can understand"  Maybe we're supposed not to understand it just because the writers said so

Explaining everything like it was Reaper 101 just blew it. And the explaination they gave was particularly lame (the way I see it).
The reapers used to be cool, obscure and dangerous enemies. Now they're the starchild's lawnmowers.
Very dangerous lawnmowers, but you can still kill all of them by shooting a pipe.
At this point it would have been better a plain explaination like "ah we're superior, you're inferior so we kill you for the lulz, ku klux klan style".

[His Name was HYR!!]

Greylycantrope wrote...

@ LilLino
They're motivations are supposed to be beyond our comprehension as in beyond our grasp, we can grasp their motivation, it's just completely stupid.

False.

The Reapers motives are not within our comprehension, the problem they deal with is typically never seen in our civlization. Why? Because they deal with it before our galaxy advances to that point. You don't even need Leviathan DLC to know that: the patterns are in the data. ME1 is when the harvest was supposed to begin, synthetics were primitive. After the delay, "true" AI (like EDI/geth) were created. They're still new, and too small a population to be threats to anyone.

So, no. If this fanbase is an indication, Sovereign was right. The majority of us do not comprehend it. The fact that people see Rannoch as "proof" that they're wrong goes to show that.

[Yate]

LilLino wrote...

I don't agree. I prefer Bioware's ending. This mod actually offers less choice than the original and doesn't explain the Reapers origins nor goals.

If the ending was like this I'd be pissed.

No, I really appreciate modder's good work, it's very nice of him, but don't turn his good will to a weapon against Bioware and it's employees. I doubt he'd want that.

this

I'm glad ME3 didn't end with a cheesy romance scene

[DeinonSlayer]

Good for you, but I prefer the Extended Cut.