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[djspectre]

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

[Maxster_]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

You are pathetic. Taking part of phrase out of context just to make personal attack.

rofl, personal attack? In that thread you linked (thanks for that, by the way), you clearly state your intent to mock me.

Ergo, saying that you mock people is merely stating facts. Sorry if the truth hurts. Maybe you should.... NOT do it?

You are pathetic, and so your attempts at personal attack. This is sad truth.
And you are a liar. Well, that's already shown in previous thread. But

I know that you have nothing to say in defence of ME3 crappy plot. You already showed that behavior in this thread.
Now you can run for moderators again Too bad they never listened to your whines.

That was my post.
And you took part of phrase

I know that you have nothing to say

And pretending that is what i said. That's basically forging of opponent's posts. Not that this methods are something new to you, but it shows.

And that was pathetic attempt.

After previous personal attack based on typing error(is it even existed, such typing error in my posts? knowing you, you could have just made that up).

Who said anything about typing errors? Only way you could have known that is if you knew what I meant.

Besides, the link you provided proves I didn't make that up. Stones in glass houses, friendy.

Sure. Your answer focused on some typing error(actually, there was nothing more in your "answer") basically shows, that you have nothing to say about topic you raised. Meaning that you lost a debate. But you are so pathetic that you can't accept even obvious defeat. So you, at first, pointed to some typing error, and then forged "evidence" from my post to make personal attack.

Such pathetic behavior

Now you should start your second run for the moderators

Good idea. I'll just keep trying 'til they listen, which shouldn't be long at the rate you're going! 

I'm probably doing them no favor by continuing this, however, so this will have to be it for me. Too bad, would've been fun.

Yeah. That is all about you - losing a debate and running for moderators. Pathetic.

[Dr_Extrem]

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

first .. it a fanfic and a mod - its optional.

second .. ithe high ems destroy ending implecates, that shepard survived the blast.

third .. its not really a happy ending mod - only a happier ending (could not get any darker). 


in this mod, the galaxy is still in ruins and society has to rebuild. the relays are blasted and it will take a lot of time and effort to reconnect to the rest of the galaxy.

why should the hero die? ... just because it is convinient to the writers? .. to make the series even darker? .. shepard needs to die to become a true hero? .. i bet the rest of the universe sees it differently.

it you take the epilogues at face value, synthesis is in fact a happy "sunshine and bunnies" ending. 


i respect your view on the matter - please respect ours as well.

[Armass81]

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

I kinda agree, the end has to have some sacrifices otherwise it all just seems too easy. This is why I always kill some people intentionally off at the collector base, its supposed to be a suicide mission after all. If everyone makes it, it seems too easy. What i think BW did right with the current endings, despite space magic and other things, is that each choice has a pro and a con, thus making the choices more hard, giving them all some validity to be chosen.

People want a conventional victory of fleets blasting reapers out without realising that it breaks things already established in the lore: The reapers power, their vast numbers all around the galaxy, not just on Earth, and the fact that the galaxy was asleep despite of Shepards warnings when they came. Protheans had a huge empire and they were decimated. Im sorry people, but this was the path Bioware chose after ME1. Were not winning the war without some kind of superweapon that either kills the reapers or somehow makes them alot weaker, reapers are simply too powerful.

Modifié par Armass81, 08 novembre 2012 - 11:59 .

[Iakus]

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

Even in this mod, lives were lost, planets were in ruin, the galactic way of life was altered, as much as High EMS Destroy already affects all that.

The only thing this changes, aside from Starkid and RGB being removed, is Shepard's survival, and  the (optional) addition of a quarian/geth at peace slide (indicating the geth weren't wiped out) 

This mod is probably not for you.  But then, it sounds like you find all the High EMS endings too upbeat for your taste

[djspectre]

Dr_Extrem wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

first .. it a fanfic and a mod - its optional.

second .. ithe high ems destroy ending implecates, that shepard survived the blast.

third .. its not really a happy ending mod - only a happier ending (could not get any darker). 


in this mod, the galaxy is still in ruins and society has to rebuild. the relays are blasted and it will take a lot of time and effort to reconnect to the rest of the galaxy.

why should the hero die? ... just because it is convinient to the writers? .. to make the series even darker? .. shepard needs to die to become a true hero? .. i bet the rest of the universe sees it differently.

it you take the epilogues at face value, synthesis is in fact a happy "sunshine and bunnies" ending. 


i respect your view on the matter - please respect ours as well.

I do respect your opinion, I was simply stating, (perhaps more bluntly than I intentioned) that I felt that the tone of the series up to this point didn't really support a 'happy' ending. You are absolutely correct that Synthesis is very close to this (in what I consider a really warped way). 

I'm aware that a select group of individuals would love to see their Shepard live, but I think that mostly has to do with the idea of seeing the results of all our different choices played out in the end. We got some closure with the EC, but questions remained about Conrad Verner, the Rachni (if you let them live and they helped on the crucible), the Salarians (utterly absent in all forms of all endings) and so on. 

I guess I just felt that the inclusion of a happy ending or reunion would go against the grain of the entire series seeing as it took itself very seriously, with some very notable, and funny, moments sprinkled throughout. 

If I came off rude, it wasn't intentional, I was simply opening up a line of conversation :happy:

[djspectre]

iakus wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

Even in this mod, lives were lost, planets were in ruin, the galactic way of life was altered, as much as High EMS Destroy already affects all that.

The only thing this changes, aside from Starkid and RGB being removed, is Shepard's survival, and  the (optional) addition of a quarian/geth at peace slide (indicating the geth weren't wiped out) 

This mod is probably not for you.  But then, it sounds like you find all the High EMS endings too upbeat for your taste

Yeah, you're probably right, its not for me. I wanted Earth to survive, and the people on it live also, but show the effects of no supply chains, no mass relays, food shortages, etc...and then show us that eventually we clawed our way back..limping alongside the other crippled galactic species back to normacy. 

It's good to see other people modding the game though, so regardless of whether I personally liked it or not, keep it up!

[Nerevar-as]

djspectre wrote...

iakus wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

Even in this mod, lives were lost, planets were in ruin, the galactic way of life was altered, as much as High EMS Destroy already affects all that.

The only thing this changes, aside from Starkid and RGB being removed, is Shepard's survival, and  the (optional) addition of a quarian/geth at peace slide (indicating the geth weren't wiped out) 

This mod is probably not for you.  But then, it sounds like you find all the High EMS endings too upbeat for your taste

Yeah, you're probably right, its not for me. I wanted Earth to survive, and the people on it live also, but show the effects of no supply chains, no mass relays, food shortages, etc...and then show us that eventually we clawed our way back..limping alongside the other crippled galactic species back to normacy. 

It's good to see other people modding the game though, so regardless of whether I personally liked it or not, keep it up!

Then the EC wasn´t for you either?

[Dr_Extrem]

djspectre wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

first .. it a fanfic and a mod - its optional.

second .. ithe high ems destroy ending implecates, that shepard survived the blast.

third .. its not really a happy ending mod - only a happier ending (could not get any darker). 


in this mod, the galaxy is still in ruins and society has to rebuild. the relays are blasted and it will take a lot of time and effort to reconnect to the rest of the galaxy.

why should the hero die? ... just because it is convinient to the writers? .. to make the series even darker? .. shepard needs to die to become a true hero? .. i bet the rest of the universe sees it differently.

it you take the epilogues at face value, synthesis is in fact a happy "sunshine and bunnies" ending. 


i respect your view on the matter - please respect ours as well.

I do respect your opinion, I was simply stating, (perhaps more bluntly than I intentioned) that I felt that the tone of the series up to this point didn't really support a 'happy' ending. You are absolutely correct that Synthesis is very close to this (in what I consider a really warped way). 

I'm aware that a select group of individuals would love to see their Shepard live, but I think that mostly has to do with the idea of seeing the results of all our different choices played out in the end. We got some closure with the EC, but questions remained about Conrad Verner, the Rachni (if you let them live and they helped on the crucible), the Salarians (utterly absent in all forms of all endings) and so on. 

I guess I just felt that the inclusion of a happy ending or reunion would go against the grain of the entire series seeing as it took itself very seriously, with some very notable, and funny, moments sprinkled throughout. 

If I came off rude, it wasn't intentional, I was simply opening up a line of conversation :happy:

to me, the whole series was not about a dark depressing hallway, it was about overcoming nearly impossible odds. we made it in me1 and 2 ... me3 is tho only title that stands out.

this mod pushed the series back into the direction, where i ever saw it.


adding an ending like this in the original game, would not have hurt anybody - but pleased a lot of disgruntled fans.

[djspectre]

Nerevar-as wrote...

djspectre wrote...

iakus wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

Even in this mod, lives were lost, planets were in ruin, the galactic way of life was altered, as much as High EMS Destroy already affects all that.

The only thing this changes, aside from Starkid and RGB being removed, is Shepard's survival, and  the (optional) addition of a quarian/geth at peace slide (indicating the geth weren't wiped out) 

This mod is probably not for you.  But then, it sounds like you find all the High EMS endings too upbeat for your taste

Yeah, you're probably right, its not for me. I wanted Earth to survive, and the people on it live also, but show the effects of no supply chains, no mass relays, food shortages, etc...and then show us that eventually we clawed our way back..limping alongside the other crippled galactic species back to normacy. 

It's good to see other people modding the game though, so regardless of whether I personally liked it or not, keep it up!

Then the EC wasn´t for you either?

I did like the EC, but those still tiles needed to come AFTER the tiles you got if you did a low ems run through the game. Jack is a good example. If you choose to put her students on the frontlines, the tile you get is her standing in a graveyard (provided you didn't romance her, which yields a 3rd tile). If you chose to put them as support, it shows her teaching them. 

What I felt should have been in place was to show her in the grave yard first (immediately after the war ended) and then to further her epilogue show her teaching a NEW group of students, which would have shown the initial pain, loss and impact on the war, but also showed how the survivors moved on and rebuilt. 

[Chief Commander]

djspectre wrote...

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

Guys it´s over. He put his veto in.

But in all honesty: why shouldn´t there be a happy ending? I see nothing wrong with that. The Prothean cycle was not united, simply a bunch of races under the slavery of the Protheans. That is why they did not have a happy end. Shepard managed to unite the galaxy with arguments only and thats what is worth a happy ending. Victory through unity.

[darthoptimus003]

Armass81 wrote...

djspectre wrote...

I honestly don't want a happy ending mod, or even a happy ending to ME3.

The game stressed that lives would be lost, planets would be in ruin, our way of life, even if we survived, would be permanently altered.

That's what I wanted and that's what I expected.

Being told for 3 games that the Reapers would obliterate everything is what I wanted to see. I don't, at any point ever, want to see a pristine world where we were able to defeat the reapers so easily.

The galactic civilizations obviously weren't prepared so I have no idea how thesia held out as long as it did, or how Surkesh even survived at all. The Protheans were vastly more advanced and martial than our cycle is and yet they lost completely.

I honestly can't see us surviving a war with the Reapers with anything less than a "barely".

Shepard should die, he is the hero who gave it all. His death makes him a martyr and a true hero.

Having the game show me a 'reunion' is like watching old star trek episodes where no matter what happens, the ship and crew always are back to normal as if nothing happened.

Reapers destroying galactic civilization is never going to let us get back to normal. War is horrific and painful and unforgettable, empires fall, regimes crumble and species become extinct. At no point does any race truly feel the pain of the Reaper attack. Everyone lives: Turian, asari, human, salaria, krogan, rachni....where was the sober reminder of this war?

So I have to veto the OP's idea about having a happy ending of any kind to this story.

I kinda agree, the end has to have some sacrifices otherwise it all just seems too easy. This is why I always kill some people intentionally off at the collector base, its supposed to be a suicide mission after all. If everyone makes it, it seems too easy. What i think BW did right with the current endings, despite space magic and other things, is that each choice has a pro and a con, thus making the choices more hard, giving them all some validity to be chosen.

People want a conventional victory of fleets blasting reapers out without realising that it breaks things already established in the lore: The reapers power, their vast numbers all around the galaxy, not just on Earth, and the fact that the galaxy was asleep despite of Shepards warnings when they came. Protheans had a huge empire and they were decimated. Im sorry people, but this was the path Bioware chose after ME1. Were not winning the war without some kind of superweapon that either kills the reapers or somehow makes them alot weaker, reapers are simply too powerful.

sorry the only lore that said we coulnt beat the reapers was only in me3 and the codex tells us how it was done and we see it happen and to all of the pro-enders what some of us are saying it should have been an option to get a happier ending and some of us just want them to ADD it not change it
you like ur endings fine thats good for yall some of us dont so why are we stuck with this bulls*** ending?

[Velocithon]

Not only is this better than the endings, but it actually makes sense and has no plotholes.

[GreyLycanTrope]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

How do we not? They explain quite clearly how they see teh universe functions, what they do and why they do what they do.They're not unknowable they're quite clear.

They're dealing with a problem that we have not even seen during our civilization. Not quite. It is a problem that did, however, exist in a time period long before ours in a civlization far more advanced. For that reason, the threat seems far-fetched/illogical to many and why we have so many people say "Their logic is wrong, look at Rannoch."

There is a fundamental difference in our perspective and the catalyst's because we do not share any similar experiences of time or place. For that reason, the Reapers' motives are basically not something we can fully understand.

Having a different perspective doesn't mean you can't see where the other person is coming from. Not experiancing the even doesn't make me deaf to him explaining his perspecitve and background. These were event unique to his experiance however and he's imposing those events as unshakable rule on the rest of the galaxy.

[Maxster_]

Velocithon wrote...

Not only is this better than the endings, but it actually makes sense and has no plotholes.

Too bad that ME3 is a plothole-ridden mess even without the endings. Well, unfortunately, that can not be fixed with any mod...
So, this mod is obvious improvement

[His Name was HYR!!]

Greylycantrope wrote...

HYR 2.0 wrote...

They're dealing with a problem that we have not even seen during our civilization. Not quite. It is a problem that did, however, exist in a time period long before ours in a civlization far more advanced. For that reason, the threat seems far-fetched/illogical to many and why we have so many people say "Their logic is wrong, look at Rannoch."

There is a fundamental difference in our perspective and the catalyst's because we do not share any similar experiences of time or place. For that reason, the Reapers' motives are basically not something we can fully understand.

Having a different perspective doesn't mean you can't see where the other person is coming from. Not experiancing the even doesn't make me deaf to him explaining his perspecitve and background.

I'm not saying one can't try to understand it or make some sense of it. It would be a bit of a self-defeating argument if I were, since I myself am partly trying to explain the logic. But at the end of the day, he's posing a dilemma to us that - as far as we know - doesn't even exist in the galaxy, and saying that's what they're fighting.

This is not something where one can go "Ah! Yes, that's true" and back up with data. It's all theory to us that we can, at best, suppose is sound or flawed logic.

[GreyLycanTrope]

HYR 2.0 wrote...
I'm not saying one can't try to understand it or make some sense of it. It would be a bit of a self-defeating argument if I were, since I myself am partly trying to explain the logic. But at the end of the day, he's posing a dilemma to us that - as far as we know - doesn't even exist in the galaxy, and saying that's what they're fighting.

This is not something where one can go "Ah! Yes, that's true" and back up with data. It's all theory to us that we can, at best, suppose is sound or flawed logic.

What you said in the first paragraph about us being able to make sense of it. If we can make sense of it it's by definition not incomprehensible. Being a theory isn't incomprehensive, gravity and evolution are theories they are not incomprehensive. Theories in general are just concepts or ideas of function. The catalyst presents a theory that synthetic and organic life fucntion in a specific way. I'm honestly not getting which part of his view point is incomprehensive or hard to understand. Is there a specific idea you have trouble wrapping your head around? That's not meant as a slight I'm just having difficulty picturing anyone,yourself included, having an issue of understanding the presented concept.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:04 .

[CommanderVyse]

Can we not call this a mod? I would rather give it the proper title of "Ending Fix"

[Zan51]

Velocithon wrote...

Not only is this better than the endings, but it actually makes sense and has no plotholes.

Yes, oh yes, this! I felt a Hell Yeah! moment for the first time in ME3. I felt satisfied suddenly, I felt i had accomplished what we set out to do - remember that, our mission? Destroy the Reapers? Hell yeah, I had a moment like at the end of ME2! I loved it and have posted that on the modders thread.

Why is it that those who love the original or EC endings just hate for anyone else to feel satisfied? It says more about them and their view of life than it ever says about us!

Modifié par Zan51, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:19 .

[Killer3000ad]

Yes this shouldn't be a mod, the is the actual proper ending.

[Maxster_]

Killer3000ad wrote...

Yes this shouldn't be a mod, the is the actual proper ending.

That would be too videogamey.

[thefallen2far]

I'd send $50 if you could port that to the X-box 360, plus rebuy a used copy of the game.... I think I could get one for $15.

I need some sensible ending that wasn't hijacked by nonsense and trite garbage. Even if it takes choice away from the player, I'd rather not accept color coded shallow ending that's capped on because of budgets or cut time frames and have a decent [even if technically flawed] conclusion that omits the Jar Jar Binks of Mass Effect. I

[David7204]

And here we are again.

I've seen the same thing on the Miranda threads. Threads about saving Thane. Other threads about the ending.

The same thing every time. No matter what, the 'solution' is shilled as the best thing EVER, EVER. Any problems are ignored. Any shortcomings are disregarded. And like always, people post by the dozens to praise an idea full of the same problems they've doubtless complained about incessantly elsewhere.

[MegaSovereign]

I approve of the mod but I prefer Bioware's EC.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 09 novembre 2012 - 03:39 .