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[goofyomnivore]

I liked the soundtracks in DA:O and ][, so I'd like to see Inon Zur come back.

[Ausstig]

I agree about Inon Zur, Origins was great. DA2 was ok but nothing memerable, at least in my view.

other wise mr Movie trailer aka Zack Hemsey here is some of his work.

http://www.zackhemse...msey/Video.html

[ioannisdenton]

Why people keep telling Inon failed at DA2. this is very inacurate, i bet these people do not like anything about da2 and hence even the music. Or 1 playthrough is not enough for a game to appreciate the music.
With one playthrough you just remember the cathcy tunes.
I think People who have played DA2 more than 2 times (like me) appreciate the music very much.
I think DA2 music was better if equal to DAO.
Video game music is on another level today thanks to composers beeing mentioned here.
One poster said that Jesper kyd would love to work with bioware??
Really?? and you guys hired Clint mansell and this totally overated escape from earth track... (his tracks were good but the worst from all others). Sasca dickiyan (cant spell this) did a far better job.
Beeing a great film composer does not mean you can make it in Video games.
Hans zimmer is exceptional and fricking awesome but when in game he gets outshined from other veterans in the videogame medium.
Make it happen: a collaboration between jesper kyd and Inon Zur

[TheInquisitor]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Why people keep telling Inon failed at DA2. this is very inacurate, i bet these people do not like anything about da2 and hence even the music. Or 1 playthrough is not enough for a game to appreciate the music.
With one playthrough you just remember the cathcy tunes.
I think People who have played DA2 more than 2 times (like me) appreciate the music very much.
I think DA2 music was better if equal to DAO.
Video game music is on another level today thanks to composers beeing mentioned here.
One poster said that Jesper kyd would love to work with bioware??
Really?? and you guys hired Clint mansell and this totally overated escape from earth track... (his tracks were good but the worst from all others). Sasca dickiyan (cant spell this) did a far better job.
Beeing a great film composer does not mean you can make it in Video games.
Hans zimmer is exceptional and fricking awesome but when in game he gets outshined from other veterans in the videogame medium.
Make it happen: a collaboration between jesper kyd and Inon Zur

I've played through Dragon Age 2 4-5 times and I still find the music average at best.

[Leanansidhe]

DA:O's soundtrack sounded average, at best.  There are only 2 songs I even remember outside of playing the game.  The main theme, & Leliana's Song.

Whereas, I found DA2's to be so much better.  Fenris's Theme, Rogue Hearts, Mage Pride, etc.  I listen to those all the time.  If that's what happens when Inon Zur is rushed, he needs to be rushed all the time.

That being said, I would much prefer Sam Hulick.

[Persephone]

sandellniklas wrote...

I think I would like Inon to return, but I think he should try some new things. I would love it if Dragon Age 3 and Orlais had something like this for the music. The music is from the TV-show The Tudors, by Trevos Morris but I think it fits fairly well. It still sounds very much like Dragon Age, but has some new twists and turns.
The Death of Jane Seymour/A Howling Wilderness
Behold The King Of England
Henry meets Anne Boleyn
Anne dreams of her Childhood
Main Theme

I may hate that show for its inaccuracies but...they sure had a brilliant score for it. So I wote for a collaboration of Zur and Morris! 

[Darth Death]

I've never known DA for having good music. Anyone decent I suppose.

[Fredvdp]

I personally thought the DA2 music was better than DAO, despite the rush job.

Other than Inon Zur, I think Jeremy Soule would be a good candidate, based on his work in fantasy games (Elder Scrolls III-V, Guild Wars 2). I'm curious about Sam Hulick's Baldur's Gate music. If it's good, then they may give him the opportunity, since BioWare seems to be fond of him.

[shai-hulud-lama]

I really hope BioWare stays with Inon Zur. His work on DA:O and DA2 is just incredible.

[axl99]

Inon Zur I thought incurred a bit of bad karma on his part for saying he got rushed making DA2. He was great for making specific themes and that was about it. Everything else he made for Dragon Age bored me.

Sam Hulick had voiced his interest for working on Dragon Age so I'm kinda curious to see what he could come up with for DA.

[Masha Potato]

I loved DA2 ambience. But i hated the combat music in both games. All in all i don't care who writes the music as long as there's no tired pseudoemotional piano

[spirosz]

Jesper Kyd, Jermemy Soule.

I wonder how Michael McCann would approach something like Dragon Age.

[Arppis]

ioannisdenton wrote...

Arppis wrote...

I hope it's not Jeremy Soule, he gets so repeative after awhile.

But yeah, Jasper Kyd is good.

i don't like assassins's creed but the ost is FANTASTIC. AC2 and ACrevelations get  quite the treatment on my evening pipe tobacco sessions.

Nice.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

Doyle W. Donehoo (Dawn of War 2 music)

or

Two Steps From Hell (A lot of different musics, including for Mass Effect 2 trailer as well)

[Wifflebottom]

Inon Zur, it wouldn't sound like Dragon Age otherwise.

[Firky]

I find these threads confusing, because isn't the composer him/herself just one part of the final result?

They're working with era, genre, whatever direction they've been given, appropriate instrumentation, style, the game and narrative - and it goes on.

Those "gamey" things too, like DA2's dissonant chord of death, when the game pegged you to die. And illustrating narrative moments that people could have a different experience of. That stuff.

(Eg. John Williams is amazing as well as a really distinctive composer. But whoever wrote the music for SWTOR did an amazing job of capturing the key elements of the Star Wars score, IMO.)

Modifié par Firky, 10 novembre 2012 - 08:33 .

[AmstradHero]

Interesting point, Firky. It would be interesting to know exactly how much freedom composers are given when writing a soundtrack. I would assume that for cinematics they have to work pretty closely with the team, but I would have thought for general gameplay music that they were given some thematic direction and just told to do their job.

The one thing that confuses me about these threads is the number of people that heap praise upon Inon Zur and Jeremy Soule. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm sure they're both talented individuals, but I've largely found their music to be bland.

Inon Zur has a love of brass that pervades so many of his tracks, and tends to drown out anything else that might be going on in the track. That single recurring problem is indicative of his overall musical tendencies as well. His work seems to focus on complexity rather than actually creating something that really evokes emotion and will stick in the player's/listeners memory. I'm glad Firky mentioned John Williams because he's an amazing composer because he can create a complex track while still providing a central melody that is memorable and emotional. When it comes to Dragon Age, I bet you'd find a lot of people struggling to recall or hum a central melody for most of the tracks outside of the main theme and perhaps Leliana's Song, and that's one of Zur's key problems - he seems to rarely make a memorable melody.

As for Jeremy Soule... yes, the Elder Scrolls theme is great. Everything else.... well, it's a bit like Mumford and Sons. It all sounds EXACTLY the same. Soule reuses musical themes and progressions across all his work, and as such it so often ends up sounding generic. You could quite easily toss Soule's work from Guild Wars, Neverwinter Nights and Skyrim into one of the other games and you'd likely notice no significant thematic or constructional difference. So often the player will *feel* like they've heard a particular track from Soule.

To further demonstrate, check out and compare the soundtracks for Guild Wars and World of Warcraft and their respective expansions. Now, this is not entirely a fair comparison, as the WoW team consists of several people whereas Soule worked (largely?) alone on Guild Wars. For each expansion, Guild Wars still sounds pretty much the same. You could easily feel like it was just more of the same of the original soundtrack. On the other hand, WoW's soundtrack for each expansion feels like part of the whole due to some reuse of musical themes and cues that are core to the series as a whole, but there are distinctive styles within each expansion (and even to represent music associated with each race) that provide a different musical texture that separates it from other content.

Modifié par AmstradHero, 10 novembre 2012 - 10:06 .

[DahliaLynn]

For the OP (and other interested readers') pleasure, I present a similar thread, mostly expressing opinions on the pro's and con's of Inon Zur continuing his work on DA.

[JimboGee]

ashesandwine wrote...

Will.I.Am

.....Get out.  I don't mind who they get as long as they have a kick ass track at the end. Dragon age 2 really impressed with with the old Florence And The Machine card.

[Xewaka]

Christopher Tin. Because of this.

[nuclearpengu1nn]

Inon Zur

[Firky]

Dahlia Lynn's other thread was an interesting read. It helped to formalise some of my thinking on game music. (But I've already repeated myself in this thread a few times.)

I'm simply going to expect DA3 to have French Impressionist influenced music, in an orchestral setting, until I hear it and go, "That's not French at all!" It's the only genre I would immediately associate with Orlais in my mind. Although, maybe I should have paid more attention in MotA. I can't recall its music at all.

I'll just sit here and try to imagine what kind of early piano type instrument they might have invented.