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[Anacronian Stryx]

SimKoning wrote...

Breasts on an alien would only make sense if the infant form can suck.

That only matters if the breasts works exactly like human breasts...maybe the alien ones are more like sprinklers and no suction is needed

[Krillos55]

I'm more curious how a turian milk taste like if those are actual breasts. Judging on their discipled nature, I guess it taste horrible? xD

Modifié par Krillos55, 12 novembre 2012 - 11:21 .

[Deadlysyns]

Krillos55 wrote...

I'm more curious how a turian milk taste like if those are actual breasts. Judging on their discipled nature, I guess it taste horrible? xD

this is going to create a ton of new disturbing images online dude thanx 

[Krillos55]

Deadlysyns wrote...

Krillos55 wrote...

I'm more curious how a turian milk taste like if those are actual breasts. Judging on their discipled nature, I guess it taste horrible? xD

this is going to create a ton of new disturbing images online dude thanx 

That's as much as I fear, my friend.

[BetrayerOfNihil]

Deadlysyns wrote...
this is going to create a ton of new disturbing images online dude thanx 

The milk tubes idea was worse.

[Deadlysyns]

still i can see it now a Female Turian with male Shepard sucking on her Breasts :S damn you BSN damn you :S

[EnvyTB075]

BetrayerOfNihil wrote...

EnvyTB075 wrote...
Whats this, a rational argument? BAH! BEGONE WITH THEE YOU SEXIST FREAK. GIRLS HAVE BOOBS AND VAJAYJAYS.

What are you, 10? Do you even lift?

What?

Last time I did was back in ME1... ?

Nothing against you mate, just making a point.

[Ranger Jack Walker]

Anacronian Stryx wrote...

SimKoning wrote...

Breasts on an alien would only make sense if the infant form can suck.

That only matters if the breasts works exactly like human breasts...maybe the alien ones are more like sprinklers and no suction is needed

I support sprinkler boobs.

People are accusing bioware of using human standards to define alien species while at the same time they are doing the same thing except to an even greater extent.

The best part is that the irony completely escapes them.

[N7KnightSabre]

I do love the design of Nyreen and I give props to the art team at Bioware, I just disagree with a Turian with boobs (if she has them). Now, if it was suggested that the females of this species would have them from the beginning of the series then I would find it mind-boggling. However, there has been evidence over the years that that isn't the case. The comics, in-game dialogue (even though it was eventually cut, it was written and made), and the art director's comments in the vid about making Garrus (he didn't seem to think that turians would have boobs).

[SimKoning]

I've mentioned this before, but the Turian's reptilian mouth is only part of the problem. There is also the fact that they have heavily armored and scaly skin that is almost exoskeletal. I don't have much of a problem with the Asari and Quarian females having mammary analogs, because it looks as though they have soft, porous skin, AND they have muscular mammal like lips and cheeks that would allow them to efficiently suck on their mother's skin. I can imagine an evolutionary pathway that could lead to them having something like a mammary gland. Of course, I still think they are implausibly human...

The codex states that the Turians evolved heavily armored plated skin to protect them from radiation. It also looks like their skin is scaly like a reptiles. These two things combined make it hard for me to imagine their ancestors ever evolving porous skin that could eventually lay the foundation for the evolution of mammary like glands.

Ask yourself this: If they invented warp drive in your lifetime, and you were given the freedom to explore the galaxy, would you honestly expect to find aliens with a nice round set of human boobs? No? Then why the heck do so many alien species in Mass Effect have boobs?

Modifié par SimKoning, 12 novembre 2012 - 04:35 .

[N7KnightSabre]

SimKoning wrote...

I've mentioned this before, but the Turian's reptilian mouth is only part of the problem. There is also the fact that they have heavily armored and scaly skin that is almost exoskeletal. I don't have much of a problem with the Asari and Quarian females having mammary analogs, because it looks as though they have soft, porous skin, AND they have muscular mammal like lips and cheeks that would allow them to efficiently suck on their mother's skin. I can imagine an evolutionary pathway that could lead to them having something like a mammary gland. Of course, I still think they are implausibly human...

The codex states that the Turians evolved heavily armored plated skin to protect them from radiation. It also looks like their skin is scaly like a reptiles. These two things combined make it hard for me to imagine their ancestors ever evolving porous skin that could eventually lay the foundation for the evolution of mammary like glands.

Ask yourself this: If they invented warp drive in your lifetime, and you were given the freedom to explore the galaxy, would you honestly expect to find aliens with a nice round set of human boobs? No? Then why the heck do so many alien species in Mass Effect have boobs?

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Like your signature too.

[OMGsideboob]

****** or GTFO

[bajsmongo66]

SimKoning wrote...

I've mentioned this before, but the Turian's reptilian mouth is only part of the problem. There is also the fact that they have heavily armored and scaly skin that is almost exoskeletal. I don't have much of a problem with the Asari and Quarian females having mammary analogs, because it looks as though they have soft, porous skin, AND they have muscular mammal like lips and cheeks that would allow them to efficiently suck on their mother's skin. I can imagine an evolutionary pathway that could lead to them having something like a mammary gland. Of course, I still think they are implausibly human...

The codex states that the Turians evolved heavily armored plated skin to protect them from radiation. It also looks like their skin is scaly like a reptiles. These two things combined make it hard for me to imagine their ancestors ever evolving porous skin that could eventually lay the foundation for the evolution of mammary like glands.

Ask yourself this: If they invented warp drive in your lifetime, and you were given the freedom to explore the galaxy, would you honestly expect to find aliens with a nice round set of human boobs? No? Then why the heck do so many alien species in Mass Effect have boobs?

Well then you could just aswell ask yourself why all the aliens are humanoids and and have two legs and two arms....and all around 6 feet... its relatable...and no one really cares... i think everybody get all worked up by boobs , and now all nitpickers lets that define the design... im more interested why her eyes are superdifferent

[xsdob]

[SimKoning]

Well then you could just aswell ask yourself why all the aliens are humanoids and and have two legs and two arms....and all around 6 feet... its relatable...and no one really cares... i think everybody get all worked up by boobs , and now all nitpickers lets that define the design... im more interested why her eyes are superdifferent

I thought I addressed this already, but I'll elaborate. It's an assumption on the part of some science fiction writers that sapient aliens would be highly diverse, or alternately, that they would tend to converge on a humanoid shape: We simply don't know yet, and neither is less plausible than the other. If I had to guess, I would bet on most sapient aliens having a vaguely humanoid shape. The reason being that aquatic vertebrates, even when they evolve from very different ancestors, tend to evolve a "fishy" shape. This includes a tail fin, pectoral pins, and pelvic fins; there are no fish with two sets of pelvic or pectoral pins, so hexapod vertebrate analogs may be more uncommon than tetrapod forms. If the fish body plan is relatively common in the universe, then it follows that a lizard like body plan would be quite common for land creatures that have evolved from aquatic forms.

Four or more eyes are probably going to be less common than two eyes, because anything more than two tends to be redundant; that is unless the eyes are highly immobile like a spider or an insect. Camera eyes (like ours) are probably quite common, since they have evolved many times independently here on Earth. Some kind of insulatory integument (like fur or feathers) is probably likely too, since it has evolved independently in archosaurs (dinosaurs/birds) and mammals.

An upright humanoid shape may actually be the ideal shape for a weapon using creature. The wide shoulders that humans possess gives our arms a very wide range of motion that is useful for throwing and swing weapons. Or upright posture allows us to carry heavy loads directly over our center of gravity. For example, something like a dinosaur would have to shift to an upright posture while carrying a heavy load due to their teeter totter like bodies. Lifting heavy objects would be important if a species needs to build buildings made out of stone and wood. Now is this enough selective pressure to drive the evolution of many "humanoid" forms? I have no idea, nor does anyone else, but this is my best guess. The point is, humanoid aliens are not automatically unrealistic simply because they are humanoid.

Now on to boobs. A single pair of large, rounded "boobs" are a *novel* feature of (as far as we know) ONE species of hominine. Mammary glands are unique to mammals, and "boobs" are unique to one species of mammals. It's for this reason I would expect to see millions of aliens species before I ran across another with a very humanoid set of perky idealized boobs.

Modifié par SimKoning, 12 novembre 2012 - 11:03 .

[bajsmongo66]

SimKoning wrote...

Well then you could just aswell ask yourself why all the aliens are humanoids and and have two legs and two arms....and all around 6 feet... its relatable...and no one really cares... i think everybody get all worked up by boobs , and now all nitpickers lets that define the design... im more interested why her eyes are superdifferent

I thought I addressed this already, but I'll elaborate. It's an assumption on the part of some science fiction writers that sapient aliens would be highly diverse, or alternately, that they would tend to converge on a humanoid shape: We simply don't know yet, and neither is less plausible than the other. If I had to guess, I would bet on most sapient aliens having a vaguely humanoid shape. The reason being that aquatic vertebrates, even when they evolve from very different ancestors, tend to evolve a "fishy" shape. This includes a tail fin, pectoral pins, and pelvic fins; there are no fish with two sets of pelvic or pectoral pins, so hexapod vertebrate analogs may be more uncommon than tetrapod forms. If the fish body plan is relatively common in the universe, then it follows that a lizard like body plan would be quite common for land creatures that have evolved from aquatic forms.

Four or more eyes are probably going to be less common than two eyes, because anything more than two tends to be redundant; that is unless the eyes are highly immobile like a spider or an insect. Camera eyes (like ours) are probably quite common, since they have evolved many times independently here on Earth. Some kind of insulatory integument (like fur or feathers) is probably likely too, since it has evolved independently in archosaurs (dinosaurs/birds) and mammals.

An upright humanoid shape may actually be the ideal shape for a weapon using creature. The wide shoulders that humans possess gives our arms a very wide range of motion that is useful for throwing and swing weapons. Or upright posture allows us to carry heavy loads directly over our center of gravity. For example, something like a dinosaur would have to shift to an upright posture while carrying a heavy load due to their teeter totter like bodies. Lifting heavy objects would be important if a species needs to build buildings made out of stone and wood. Now is this enough selective pressure to drive the evolution of many "humanoid" forms? I have no idea, nor does anyone else, but this is my best guess. The point is, humanoid aliens are not automatically unrealistic simply because they are humanoid.

Now on to boobs. A single pair of large, rounded "boobs" are a *novel* feature of (as far as we know) ONE species of hominine. Mammary glands are unique to mammals, and "boobs" are unique to one species of mammals. It's for this reason I would expect to see millions of aliens species before I ran across another with a very humanoid set of perky idealized boobs.

since all your arguments are based on things from earth (and i know that you obviously cant base it on anything else) whats to say the humanoid race from palaven AKA turians cant have "humanoid" breast design .. just as human ****** are kinda unique on earth in how they look..
maybe thats the sign of intelligent life!?  BOOBS!!! i mean ,its not stated anywhere that turians are fish or reptiles is it? so then who cares really? lore wise they have boobs now..who can argue against the fact? nobody...

I did not think turians would have boobs .. but im not throwing a fit over it.. i mean if they give birth to live young , its not highly improbable..just saying...is it a bad design choice? probably..since they could have made it make MORE sense...but the whole thing isnt really unbelievable..so maybe ppl should stop being so serious about it :/ , its obviosly just a design choice to show off femininity..im not saying everyones arguments are false or anything..im just saying..obviously they have ****** now , lorewise , so its not lorebreaking or anything haha

[SimKoning]

since all your arguments are based on things from earth (and i know that you obviously cant base it on anything else) whats to say the humanoid race from palaven AKA turians cant have "humanoid" breast design .. just as human ****** are kinda unique on earth in how they look.

I already explained why in quite a bit of detail. It's an inference based on what we know about the evolution of mammary glands. I wouldn't expect Turians to evolve milk glands for the same reason I don't expect scientists to discover a species of dinosaur with ******. I've explained why several times now.

maybe thats the sign of intelligent life!? BOOBS!!! i mean ,its not stated anywhere that turians are fish or reptiles is it? so then who cares really? lore wise they have boobs now..who can argue against the fact? nobody...

I'm not sure you understand how evolution works. Turians have scales and scutes, not soft porous skin that can secrete fluids; Turians have relatively stiff lips and open cheeks which would prevent their mouths from forming a seal. Mammary glands evolved when basal mammals started sucking moisture from their mother's skin. I'm not sure how that would work with the ancestors of the Drell or Turians...

i mean if they give birth to live young , its not highly improbable.

You seem to think that aliens would fall into categories like "mammal" and "reptiles"; this kind of thinking is completely wrong. I'm speaking in terms of evolutionary pathways: Evolution works via incremental changes in morphology. Alien boobs would have to *evolve from something*. I don't see how the clade that Turians belong to could evolve mammary glands for the same reason I don't expect crocodiles to evolve milk glands anytime soon: there is no way for them to evolve in the first place.

Giving birth to live young and mammary glands have nothing to do with each other. Monotremes lay eggs, and yet have milk glands, and there are species of reptile that give live birth, yet lack milky glands.

Turian boobs are silly...

Modifié par SimKoning, 13 novembre 2012 - 01:53 .

[Persona RED]

Two Words:


Chicken Breasts

[SimKoning]

Chickens have enlarged pectoralis muscles because they can fly short distances. Female Turians don't fly---that's not what chicken chest muscles look like---and the males should have them if they are muscles. 

Modifié par SimKoning, 13 novembre 2012 - 02:07 .