37 réponses à ce sujet

[tetsutsuru]

If the Kroguard is the anti-Geth, the N7 Destroyer is the anti-Collectors.

Found this out by accident (trying to complete challenges for banners).  Took my N7 Destroyer with a Claymore against Unknown @ Gold.  The Kodiak shuttle took the PUG team to FB:Glacier/Collectors/Gold.

"OMG I have a Seeker Swarm on me.  Whatever shall I do?"

"Okay Praetorian, do a backflip on my command.  I own you."

[RNG God]

oKAY

[Scutshakes]

Do seeker swarms increase the spread of shotguns, or do they only do that to other guns?

[Descy_]

Isnt the Destroyer anti-everything?

[megabeast37215]

You just figured this out?

[roger_doger92]

Would someone please elaborate?

[N7 Whiskey]

The Krogan Soldier is the anti-Collector kit. Inferno Grenades destroy all.

[Uh Cold]

Cobra missile = anti collectors, no comparison.

[megabeast37215]

roger_doger92 wrote...

Would someone please elaborate?

He has no powers which the bug swarms block, he doesn't stagger, has a ton of fitness, etc.

The Hawk Missle launcher staggers the crap out of all the trooper class units too... trivializes Collector Troops/Captains... so you can focus on killing the bosses.

Or if you specced for Cluster Frags... they can save you from stuff that flanks you.

But really... it's his ability to ignore seeker swarms that make him the anti-collector.

[neteng101]

Descy_ wrote...

Isnt the Destroyer anti-everything?

Sorta but not quite vs. Reapers...  he needs to run away from Banshees way before they get too close or he'll be grabbed.

[Riot Inducer]

If all you're judging that by is the ability to ignore the seeker swarms then the Krogan Sentinel is just as good.

In all honesty though I'd say the Demolisher is probably the best as she has excellent CC and boss killing ability can ignore cooldowns as well and is much more mobile than the Destroyer which gives her a lot more effective survivability when faced with Scions and Praetorians.

[Yajuu Omoi]

An Incinerate-less KSent does that, with better nades, that also have a bonus vs Barriers.

And even WITH incinerate, you won't need it until you find a Scion or Praetoran, to cause more stagger and Fire Explosions.

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

The Krogan Soldier is the anti-Collector kit. Inferno Grenades destroy all.

And this, melt EVERYTHING.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 09 novembre 2012 - 05:57 .

[tetsutsuru]

BuckshotSamurai wrote...

The Krogan Soldier is the anti-Collector kit. Inferno Grenades destroy all.

Interesting.  I'll spec a Krogan Soldier and try that against Collectors some time. 

[tetsutsuru]

megabeast37215 wrote...

You just figured this out?

Hehe.  Wasn't really "figuring it out" as an issue to begin with.  Just stumbled across it by accident.  I always just took what I had against what the game gave, and played accordingly.

[tetsutsuru]

Riot Inducer wrote...

If all you're judging that by is the ability to ignore the seeker swarms then the Krogan Sentinel is just as good.

In all honesty though I'd say the Demolisher is probably the best as she has excellent CC and boss killing ability can ignore cooldowns as well and is much more mobile than the Destroyer which gives her a lot more effective survivability when faced with Scions and Praetorians.

Negate Seeker Swarms, Weapon buffs via Devastator Mode, and shields & health bonuses.

Although, he's still so slow he sometimes can't even get out of his own way.  Got magnet-claw-grabbed a couple of times.  Eh, all par for the course.

Modifié par tetsutsuru, 09 novembre 2012 - 06:00 .

[Fortack]

Uh Cold wrote...

Cobra missile = anti collectors, no comparison.

Not when a swarm decides to be heroic and intercepts the missile sacrificing itself to protect its buddies

[megabeast37215]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

An Incinerate-less KSent does that, with better nades, that also have a bonus vs Barriers.

And even WITH incinerate, you won't need it until you find a Scion or Praetoran, to cause more stagger and Fire Explosions.

Not taking Incinerate on the Krogan Sentinel.....

[Lime The Dragon]

megabeast37215 wrote...

roger_doger92 wrote...

Would someone please elaborate?

He has no powers which the bug swarms block, he doesn't stagger, has a ton of fitness, etc.

The Hawk Missle launcher staggers the crap out of all the trooper class units too... trivializes Collector Troops/Captains... so you can focus on killing the bosses.

Or if you specced for Cluster Frags... they can save you from stuff that flanks you.

But really... it's his ability to ignore seeker swarms that make him the anti-collector.

So, by this definition, any weapon-based class is anti-collector.

And here I was hoping for some deeper reasoning.

[Zero132132]

Psh. The Destroyer has NOTHING on the Drell Vanguard against Collectors.

[HunterInside]

The Demolisher would like word with you.

[Riot Inducer]

tetsutsuru wrote...

Negate Seeker Swarms, Weapon buffs via Devastator Mode, and shields & health bonuses.

Right, Demolisher also negates the threat of Seeker swarms unless you're replanting your pylon on cooldown constantly. Weapon buffs the Destroyer has the edge there sure but extra shields and health aren't really worth much vs collectors thanks to Scions being able to 2-3 shot any character kit on any difficulty above Bronze. The lower mobility ends up being a pretty noticable flaw vs Scions and Praetorians as well due to the former's possessed grenade spam and aforementioned doom cannon and the later's impressive speed.

[d_nought]

Zero132132 wrote...

Psh. The Destroyer has NOTHING on the Drell Vanguard against Collectors.

This. Harrier Drellguard is the true anti-everything.

[Paigan]

Kroguard is not anti-geth, but rather anti-everything.
Because it is imba like hell.

[HunterInside]

chipsandwich wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Psh. The Destroyer has NOTHING on the Drell Vanguard against Collectors.

This. Harrier Drellguard is the true anti-everything.

And if, by chance, a seeker swarm or a seeker plague catches you? What then?
Use survival pack? Wait 'till you're dead and then gel? Or just bleed out? What a dilemma...

[Locutus_of_BORG]

My impression is that most Collector units are squishier, but faster than average, with the Scion being the exception. Any character that can puts out huge DPS or mass CC tends to be very effective against them.