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Can we have a more consistent item grading system?


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Captain Crash

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I cant be the only one who thinks that the five-star item rating really didn't deliver in DA2.  Rather then the system accurately reflect the base values of an item it seemed to reflect how recently you acquired it.

I can quite vividly remember buying the The Fallen Star in Act 1 and it remained a decent ring throughout the game. Yet by Act 3 it had degraded to a one star value out of the five where as a none enchanted silver ring (worth a few bits)  somehow was graded at the full five stars.   Needless to say the ring clearly isn't a one star item even in Act 3 and items of little value were somehow graded as worthwhile.


I do like the concept of the system, as at a glance it should tell you what items have meaning and which dont.  Yet this really didn't happen in DA2 and you could not trust what the rating system said. This therefore essentially made the feature meaningless as you still had to check and investigate each individual item.


Will this star grading system reflect base stats more accurately in DA3?  Or is another system being implemented as a replacement?

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Maclimes

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This is something that bugged me, too. I'd be curious to see what they do with the system.

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MichaelStuart

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I would prefer items not be rated.
It should be up to the player to discover what works for them.

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Wulfram

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They should have just scrapped it for jewellery, since much of that didn't really scale with level very much.

For weapons it was at least decent - it communicated what was high level, even if not what was good.

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ScarMK

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MichaelStuart wrote...

I would prefer items not be rated.
It should be up to the player to discover what works for them.



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BouncyFrag

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I kind of liked it since it made it easy to clear out my inventory. The problem is that I didn't like the inventory (especially getting generic items like 'ring' and the like) and wanted to spend as little of my time having to deal with it.

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Taint Master

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MichaelStuart wrote...

I would prefer items not be rated.
It should be up to the player to discover what works for them.

That's stupid. 

I don't see why the rating system from DAO couldn't work.  Use different materials for each tier.

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Wulfram

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Taint Master wrote...

I don't see why the rating system from DAO couldn't work.  Use different materials for each tier.


Main problem I think is it's rather constraining on the art if all items of the same tier have to be the same material.

(Particularly if the top tier looks as boring as it did in DA:O)

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JWvonGoethe

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Captain Crash wrote...
I cant be the only one who thinks that the five-star item rating really didn't deliver in DA2.  Rather then the system accurately reflect the base values of an item it seemed to reflect how recently you acquired it.[...]


That is probably the best, most succinct way to sum up the problem with the rating system in DA2.

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Naughty Bear

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I don't see why we can't have stats. I loved comparing stats and love it in Borderlands 2. Maybe many don't enjoy it but i could spend hours comparing each weapon or armor, actually calculating which one would be best.

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Pzykozis

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Captain Crash wrote...

Rather then the system accurately reflect the base values of an item it seemed to reflect how recently you acquired it.



It was based on the level of the item.. which doesn't work for the jewellery really, since even the high level jewellery pieces could still be called [Ring] and have terrible stats.

I don't think a return to DA: O is really a step forward though, the tiering meant that the material of the pieces was constrained to X due to the tiers being based on the material. I'd rather just removing the con system for equipment all together and letting the stats speak for themselves. Or making the DA2 version work better and have item levels calculated by the items stats rather than having bits and pieces scalign to your level but being terrible and so lacking stats but having the system tell you they're good.

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Foolsfolly

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There's nothing wrong with a ratings system. It helps those players who really do not care to manage their companions' gear after every other mission.

It's just a short cut.

That said the OP's 100% right. The rating system in DA2's a fine idea but rather broken. It's not unusual to have two rings that do the exact same thing (let's say +5% Nature Resistance) which would have two very different ratings for no reason.

I know the ratings system in DA2 wanted to take the PC's level into account when rating which is a decent enough of an idea. But clearly something didn't work out right.

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Just put item/stat levels/value on the piece of gear, like every single MMO does nowadays.

STR7/DEX5 = iLevel 12
STR5/DEX5/CUN5 = iLevel 15

There are all kinds of ways other companies have solved this problem, effectively, years and years ago.