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fongiel24

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I've read in a few threads that Anora actually mentions Cailan's extramarital adventures but I've never come across that dialogue. The only place I've heard that in-game is from the bartender rumours. Can anybody shed some light on this?

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she will herself mention it in passing when conversing with the ideas of her and allister getting married....



which is no shock, it's in large a political marriage, and having a mistress or two is not only common, but largely expected....just as it was here in our own world through a large chunk of history.

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Apparently both Cailan and his father Maric are the Austin Powers of Ferelden.

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Herr Uhl

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I think you need to be a female romancing Alastair and trying to hitch them up.

She then wonders if there will be anyone else, cause she would like to know right away, and tells you that Cailan had other women but was discreet about it.

Have not gotten it myself though.

And he is Marics son, that is evidence enough.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 03 janvier 2010 - 01:46 .


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In time periods that Dragon Age is based it is very common for a king to do as he pleases and it is expected for the Queen to look the other way.



History has proven that kings were not always right though. :P

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Thats exactly it: If you are a female romancing alistair and attempt to marry him with Anora, she will bring up that Cailan was pretty unfaithful.

I don't blame Loghain for letting Cailan die anymore lol. If my son in law was cheating on my daughter, yeaaaah i'd just be waiting for the right opportunity to off him.

Modifié par Vicious, 03 janvier 2010 - 01:56 .


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fongiel24

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Ah that would explain it. I've never actually gotten that far as a female pc romancing Alistair. It didn't surprise me that Cailan would have a few mistresses on the side, I'd just never heard anybody in-game mentioning it except as hearsay.

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Merciful Andraste! Infidelity runs in the Theirin bloodline!

So who else thinks Cailan's mistress was an elven mage/Orlesian asassin?

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SnakeStrike8 wrote...

Merciful Andraste! Infidelity runs in the Theirin bloodline!
So who else thinks Cailan's mistress was an elven mage/Orlesian asassin?


Why not both?

He had his women, not woman.

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I have to defend Maric here...he never cheated on Rowan. His affair with Katriel was before they were married, and he was faithful to Rowan once she was his queen. It wasn't until after her death that he hooked up with Fiona.



So...Maric wasn't the scoundrel that the game has painted him out to be, I think.

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If you try to convince Anora and Alistair to marry, and you (female) are in a romance with him, she expresses she will not do it unless you can assure her there is nothing between you and Alistair.

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"Cailen had his women. He was very discreet about them, but I knew."

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I have to defend Maric here...he never cheated on Rowan.




lolwhut? Maric cheated on Rowan to have Alistair. He must have, since Loghain says that Maric intended to make it public but Loghain had to talk him out of it because of the affect it would have on Queen Rowan, reducing her to basically a concubine in the eyes of the Ferelden Nobility.





It's no wonder Cailan/Anora had no heirs. After she found out about the first affair she probably cut him off, and he figured she was being an ice queen and so just went out... more.



rofl

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Vicious wrote...

Thats exactly it: If you are a female romancing alistair and attempt to marry him with Anora, she will bring up that Cailan was pretty unfaithful.

I don't blame Loghain for letting Cailan die anymore lol. If my son in law was cheating on my daughter, yeaaaah i'd just be waiting for the right opportunity to off him.


What if your Girl was a total bi-erm, WITCH. Yea. What if your Girl was a total witch? :lol:

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Vicious wrote...

It's no wonder Cailan/Anora had no heirs. After she found out about the first affair she probably cut him off, and he figured she was being an ice queen and so just went out... more.

rofl


... You know, that actually sounds plausable.  I like this version of events.  I think I'll keep it. Posted Image

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Vicious wrote...

I have to defend Maric here...he never cheated on Rowan.


lolwhut? Maric cheated on Rowan to have Alistair. He must have, since Loghain says that Maric intended to make it public but Loghain had to talk him out of it because of the affect it would have on Queen Rowan, reducing her to basically a concubine in the eyes of the Ferelden Nobility.



Based on The Calling...no. Check out the epilogue. I believe David Gaider has stated that what's in the Codex isn't always correct. Also, based on that book, Loghain and Maric were not the best of buds by the end of Maric's reign, so I doubt Loghain knows all there is to know about Alistair. Suffice it to say that there are a lot of assumptions made about Alistair by Loghain and Alistair himself that aren't necessarily true...though nothing has been explained in full as of yet.

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Didn't DG write most of the dialogue? Just axin because Loghain does say explicitly that Alistair's birth had to be kept from being made public for the Queen's sake.



Then again it's pretty difficult to link up the books and the game. For instance Loghain doesn't act like his book version until you recruit him into your party.

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Vicious wrote...
I don't blame Loghain for letting Cailan die anymore lol. If my son in law was cheating on my daughter, yeaaaah i'd just be waiting for the right opportunity to off him.


No disrespect to your daughter intended, but isn't leaving hundreds of men to die as a result, a little extreme?

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Is this a trick question? I mean really are you serious?

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Loghain really doesn't have much to stand on either as he jumped Rowan's bones in Stolen Throne even though he knew she was Maric's betrothed. Apparently in the DOA universe everyone is just jumping from bed to bed, lol.

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I want to see what Queen Rowan looked like. Was she hawt?

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Vicious wrote...

Is this a trick question? I mean really are you serious?


I should have added a smiley onto the end. :P

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Boys will be boys.

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Kelanil wrote...

Loghain really doesn't have much to stand on either as he jumped Rowan's bones in Stolen Throne even though he knew she was Maric's betrothed. Apparently in the DOA universe everyone is just jumping from bed to bed, lol.


Very much so. Remember, if you play Human noble and bring up having an "encounter" setup with your Brother & his family, they mention to keep it "discreet" or it will cause trouble.

So really, seems infidelity isn't directly frowned upon  - only if you get "caught" doing it will the trouble happen. Of course that only refer's to "public" trouble / opinion. What happens between man and wife if either are caught out having an affair... is between them (ie such as Callian not getting any from Anora because of it.. why else was he so eager to go out in a blaze of glory.. lolz).

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Kelanil

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Hmm, Never noticed that w the Cousland family members. Fergus always says something like you sly dog or whatever.

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If you're a female noble and mention you want three men(?!) or you already have one on the side, Fergus' wife will act shocked and mention something about it.