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[kormesios]

nksaint wrote...

In time periods that Dragon Age is based it is very common for a king to do as he pleases and it is expected for the Queen to look the other way.

Except gender roles and sex is one area where the game veers wildly away from a real-Earth, medieval European model.  I think it's open how common it would be, and how tolerant a queen was expected to be.

I'd assume any culture with political marriages would have to have at least a litle flexibility, though.  You'd be breaking sensible alliances everytime a crude lord or lady got liquored up at some party otherwise.

KamatsuDash wrote...
Very much so. Remember, if you play
Human noble and bring up having an "encounter" setup with your Brother
& his family, they mention to keep it "discreet" or it will cause
trouble.

So really, seems infidelity isn't directly frowned upon

There's no infidelity; you aren't married and (if you are 'ecountering' the elf lady, neither is she).  The encounter is merely sex outside of marriage.  I never got the line, but as you describe it I'd interpret as a little more that it's considered poor manners to offer someone hospitality and then seduce their servants.

[This would actually be a good norm in Ferelden--we've seen some nobles have a "I'll grab what I can" attitude, so viewing other nobles' servants as 'protected' and off-limits could avoid misunderstandings and conflicts.]

[Kenshen]

Sabriana wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Well that, or she was a cold fish to begin with...and she does strike me as a  cold fish to be honest.

True, true. I have felt that ever since I saw a clip where she swats Alistair's hand away - in public. Ouch (and I don't mean the physical pain)

I have finished the game a few times where I have had Alistair marry Anora but only once did i see the hand swat so I wonder if that only happens if you don't harden Alistair?  Or not killing Loghain I am not sure.  My other finish with these two marrying had them ruling together soundly and the begining of a new golden age.

I always got the feeling that she wants to be loved like anyone else.  Well that and she wants to remain the queen.  Honestly I couldn't imagine being in a relationship or even a situation like that.  It would be very hard to live with.

[CREinstein]

Hmmm, the next God is also the king to be? Interesting take on things.

[Kohaku]

I don't think anyone would say anything to him. They be scared to death that they would get zapped or mind controlled off a cliff. Therin's for the win.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Let's look at the facts shall he.

Anora 5 years with Cailan - no child
Anora with Alistair - cold fish, no child hinted
Anora with PC - accepts him as consort only, cold fish again
Anora alone - never marries

conclusion - she's either barren, or so cold that any man* that tries to bed her finds his d*** shrivels and falls off. Which is why Cailan is so eager to get to the front lines. He lost his manhood.
...
Or she doesn't like men.


*any normal man. The likes of Teagan, Chuck Norris, Sandal and Maker don't count.

Modifié par Lotion Soronnar, 03 janvier 2010 - 06:19 .

[Kohaku]

That is so terrible. The bottom part. However, I chuckled.



Teagan is Superman. He would be able to get her with child just by looking at her.

[AtreiyaN7]

Kelanil wrote...

Loghain really doesn't have much to stand on either as he jumped Rowan's bones in Stolen Throne even though he knew she was Maric's betrothed. Apparently in the DOA universe everyone is just jumping from bed to bed, lol.

Uh, not really. Rowan finally realized she was in love with Loghain. He didn't take advantage of her, and this was after Maric hooked up with Katriel. Rowan was always in love with Loghain afterwards too, but they broke up because she needed to marry Maric. Maric even realized that Rowan & Loghain were in love with each other (uncomfortable times) - she married Maric out of duty, but they were affectionate ultimately. Anyhow, if you talk to Anora before she sends you off to the Alienage, she'll talk about Cailan having other women.

[ejoslin]

aryon69 wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Well that, or she was a cold fish to begin with...and she does strike me as a  cold fish to be honest.

True, true. I have felt that ever since I saw a clip where she swats Alistair's hand away - in public. Ouch (and I don't mean the physical pain)

I have finished the game a few times where I have had Alistair marry Anora but only once did i see the hand swat so I wonder if that only happens if you don't harden Alistair?  Or not killing Loghain I am not sure.  My other finish with these two marrying had them ruling together soundly and the begining of a new golden age.

I always got the feeling that she wants to be loved like anyone else.  Well that and she wants to remain the queen.  Honestly I couldn't imagine being in a relationship or even a situation like that.  It would be very hard to live with.

I think it happens when the PC tells Anora that she's not leaving Alistair and Anora just has to deal with it.

Edit: Well, I KNOW it happens then.  If it doesn't happen at other times, I'll have to test it.

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 janvier 2010 - 07:40 .

[fantasypisces]

She swatted his hand away when I told them to marry each other, saved Loghain, but persuaded Alistair to stay on as King.



I don't get it really. I think she is just a heartless women...

Maybe that's why Cailen was always 'fishing' around.

[Ulicus]

Freckles04 wrote...

Based on The Calling...no.

Based on your interpretation of The Calling's epilogue, you mean?

I mean, I agree with your interpretation, but that's all it is. It's not just that nothing has been explained "in full", it's that whether Alistair is indeed Fiona's kid hasn't been explained at all.

[Kenshen]

ejoslin wrote...

aryon69 wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Well that, or she was a cold fish to begin with...and she does strike me as a  cold fish to be honest.

True, true. I have felt that ever since I saw a clip where she swats Alistair's hand away - in public. Ouch (and I don't mean the physical pain)

I have finished the game a few times where I have had Alistair marry Anora but only once did i see the hand swat so I wonder if that only happens if you don't harden Alistair?  Or not killing Loghain I am not sure.  My other finish with these two marrying had them ruling together soundly and the begining of a new golden age.

I always got the feeling that she wants to be loved like anyone else.  Well that and she wants to remain the queen.  Honestly I couldn't imagine being in a relationship or even a situation like that.  It would be very hard to live with.

I think it happens when the PC tells Anora that she's not leaving Alistair and Anora just has to deal with it.

Edit: Well, I KNOW it happens then.  If it doesn't happen at other times, I'll have to test it.

Well that was not the case for me my PC was male.  Even when I have played a female I don't romance Alistair I really don't care for the character.  I just don't understand why so many think Anora the cold fish type.  I think it is more about that she is hooking up with guys that don't love her.  Also note that the odds of Alistair or the PC having childern are remote so you can't blame her for the GW curse.  And Cailin wasn't home often enough to father a child. 

Modifié par aryon69, 03 janvier 2010 - 09:14 .

[fanman72]

Freckles04 wrote...

I have to defend Maric here...he never cheated on Rowan. His affair with Katriel was before they were married, and he was faithful to Rowan once she was his queen. It wasn't until after her death that he hooked up with Fiona.

So...Maric wasn't the scoundrel that the game has painted him out to be, I think.

Yea but weren't they "bethrothed" in other words set that they will marry each other one day?

[Freckles04]

Ulicus wrote...

Freckles04 wrote...

Based on The Calling...no.

Based on your interpretation of The Calling's epilogue, you mean?

I mean, I agree with your interpretation, but that's all it is. It's not just that nothing has been explained "in full", it's that whether Alistair is indeed Fiona's kid hasn't been explained at all.

I said that nothing was explained, right? Yes, it's my interpretation, but it's correct, dammit.

[Xandurpein]

The description of Anora you get from the devs is something like "If you take Anora out, skip the beer and go directly for the Tequila shots".



I suppose that description leaves room for interpretation, but it's not the same as a "cold fish" to me.

[Vicious]

I don't like Anora, but I can be more rational than most of the Anora haters posting here.

She is quite friendly and warm if you are a male human noble and attempt marraige. If you are kind to her she will be kind to you, as opposed to 'Im after the throne."

If you speak to Loghain if you let him live [god forbid lol] he will also indicate that she is smitten. He will also indicate that she's insanely bossy and the PC doesn't know what he's gotten himself into.


Of course the Anora haters will just say "ZOMG shes just being nice so she can USE YOU!" and that's as may be, but it's also not giving the character any benefit of the doubt. She had no friends growing up and nobles turns their nose up at her since she's not born nobility. She had to fight for everything she got and even then she lost half the time. With the right dialogue options she will indicate she is interested in some alone time later.


I am also convinced the ending is wildly bugged. BEFORE THE ENTIRE LANDSMEET Anora declares you King-Consort if you marry him, and continually refers to you as such. Epilogue suddenly changes it to Prince-Consort and there's zero explanation.

idiotic, but i digress.


I feel bad for her.

Modifié par Vicious, 04 janvier 2010 - 12:35 .

[Kenshen]

Vicious wrote...
If you speak to Loghain if you let him live [god forbid lol] he will also indicate that she is smitten. He will also indicate that she's insanely bossy and the PC doesn't know what he's gotten himself into.

Smitten with who?  Your human noble PC that marries her or with Alistair?  I don't recall hearing him say that but I do remember the bossy part and that the PC doesn't know what he has gotten himself into.  On a side note I was saddened a little that there wasn't any dialong options with Loghain to tell him I wasn't that mad at him as he thinks I am.  I guess I too am suppose to hate this man no matter what.