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I apologize for any hurt feelings or stubbed toes.
Happy Gaming!
Ryan.
PS: Or as Cowwy describes this thread in his signature: An amazing adventure of love, intrigue, and gifs. Also something about a Flamer.
UPDATE: Here are the numbers using Pedro's formula:
K =200*(1+.2+.3+.4+.3+.4+.3)=580
Impact Versus Armor 3*(580/8)*1.5*1.5 =489.375
DOT Ticks 489.375/8*1.5*1.5 = 137.636
Expected 10 stack damage calculation137.636*13*10 =17,892.773
According to Cynon's enemy sheet a Gold Atlas has 23,000 points of armor.
https://docs.google....tput=html&gid=2
With Hunter Mode, Power Amp IV and Engineering Kit a Geth Trooper flamer can take down an unshielded Atlas. However, even if Ashen uses a Power Amp IV the maximum damage he can inflict[/b] is 19,126.76.
Yes, this a return to yesterday's argument with Ashen and his Fan Boy club.
Claim by Ashen Earth:
Link to quote: http://social.biowar...ndex/14858593/1Ashen Earth wrote...Even without Hunter Mode, it's possible to destroy an Atlas on Gold from full armor with Flamer in one cast using a power amplifier III.
So I'm inclined to say no.
[b]Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:
1. The numbers don't support it.
2. In game, it is nigh impossible to determine the precise point that an atlas loses it's shields.
a) It's impossible for Ashen to know the precise moment the shields were removed from the atlas he took down with his flamer.
Thus its near impossible to test Ashen's claim as you would have to know the precise point to stop applying the non DOT damage used to take down the shields. Maybe someone on the PC side with specialized testing software could do this. 3. It's clear in the animated animated gif (included at bottom of this post) that Ashen used bursts from his flamer to take down the atlas' shields prior to getting the single cast flamer kill. It also appears that Ashen applied the flamer burst too long and damaged armor with the last burst duration prior to the single cast kill. Either way each individual stack from those shielded bursts persist for 5 seconds.
Thus the damage from the stacks applied by Ashen less than 5 seconds prior to the atlas losing its shields (an exact point Ashen could not know and a point he appears to have exceeded) persists to aid in the destruction of the atlas' armor thus invalidating Ashen's claim. NOTE: The stack damage carried over is not minor or negligible.
Thoughts/Notes:
1. First off let it be clear I'm not calling Ashen a liar. Its a matter of seen and unseen damage and a seperation point that can't be discerned without specialized software on the client side.
2. Several people have noted that Ashen is a good/great player. I am not arguing that (nor am I confirming that). And any DB fan boy statement pointing out Ashen's scoring ability as evidence as to why he is right I will ignore as its not relevant to this debate (my end) / argument (Ashen and his DB fan club's end).
Links:
My arguments and Ashen and his fan boys' insults:
http://social.biowar...ndex/14858593/1 and http://social.biowar...5951/2#14875702
Background data on Flamer Mechanics:
http://social.biowar...ndex/14865951/1
EDIT: Formatting
EDIT: Corrected spelling errors Fan Body to Fan Boy lol
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