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[Vesorias]

Can we please just get a PC savvy player to check this. I'm PC but I would have no idea how to go about checking the numbers.

[Feneckus]

Ryan_H wrote...

3.  It's clear in the animated animated gif (included at bottom of this post) that Ashen used bursts from his flamer to take down the atlas' shields prior to getting the single cast flamer kill. 

Look at the ammo counter, he's definitely firing his acolyte, he's not using his flamer at all.

[cowwy]

Ryan_H wrote...


Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me, just in a flowery language. It would help if your whole post didn't reek of bitterness.

[Topographer]

You made a whole thread over a minor technicality? Even if you are right, this isn't exactly a game-breaking issue.

[tictactucrac]

cowwy wrote...

Ryan_H wrote...


Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me, just in a flowery language. It would help if your whole post didn't reek of bitterness.

Make a mistake = Liar ?

[Apl_Juice]

Topographer wrote...

You made a whole thread over a minor technicality? Even if you are right, this isn't exactly a game-breaking issue.

This is BSN. People get off on proving others wrong. 

[ndw542]

Why is this even a thing? Flamer kills stuff. Very well. With fire.


What else really needs to be said?

[Mailak]

OP don't try to use logic on the BSn. Despite that I have seen the game code correcting people on the forum is useless, they believe whatever BN(n) they want to and refuse to see logic or evidence that does not fit their belief.

[Tallgeese_VII]

What is the meaning of this?!

Only thing I care is if we can take down Gold Atlas with single Flamer blow or not...
as far as I can tell, I could not bring down a gold Scion with single Flamer blow.. but with DOT it seemed possible.

[DullahansXMark]

cowwy wrote...

Ryan_H wrote...


Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me, just in a flowery language. It would help if your whole post didn't reek of bitterness.

Pretty much this. As a student in Theory of Knowledge courses, I can say that not valid = false, and in some context (this one in particular), false = lying.

I could delve a whole lot deeper, but I don't think anyone's even reading at this point.

[Ryan_H]

ryoldschool wrote...
Hey dude, I understand why you question the assertion he made, but I was totally expecting some video evidence posted here that would give any more weight to your position.
From where I sit, you are both just saying your opinions.
I tried Ashen's build with a power III mod and was unable to take down a Banshee's armor on Gold in one go - but there are a lot of variables involved ( other people where shooting, I might not have been close enough, etc ).
If you are serious about this then you should produce a video. Excuse me if I missed a link to a video in your opening post

First off, I went to test this and then found myself running into the problem of how do I know the exact point to stop firing my Hurricane V with AP IV to prevent from damaging the atlas'armor?  You get a visual reference with the bars but that is not a precise measurement of damage.  Its like trying to weigh yourself with a scale that uses  bars that indicate 50 lbs versus the actual numbers.

Ryan_H wrote...In game, it is nigh impossible to determine the precise point that an atlas loses it's shields....ts a matter of seen and unseen damage and a seperation point that can't be discerned without specialized software on the client side.

A video will not help determine the exact point the damage point is met for the shield threshold. 
And I'm not offering opinions and I'm questioning his claim based on numbers and game mechanics that are not invented or opinions.

Modifié par Ryan_H, 10 novembre 2012 - 01:59 .

[Descy_]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

tictactucrac wrote...

Edit : And they really, really love stupid gifs. And they say you are a child 

fixed.

[Asebstos]

If I hadn't just promoted my Soldiers I'd be trying this out using an Acolyte to take down the shields. Yes, some damage might bleed through to arrmor, but it will be an insignificant amount.

[Ryan_H]

DullahansXMark wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ryan_H wrote...


Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me, just in a flowery language. It would help if your whole post didn't reek of bitterness.

Pretty much this. As a student in Theory of Knowledge courses, I can say that not valid = false, and in some context (this one in particular), false = lying.

I could delve a whole lot deeper, but I don't think anyone's even reading at this point.

What?  Bitterness?  Wow!  You must think the science community is full of bitter people as it is full of people who offer proofs and people who question the validity of those proofs.

[NikkoJT]

There are more posts about what responses this thread is going to contain than there are actual responses. :cripes:




...Oops.

[Ryan_H]

Apl_J wrote...

Topographer wrote...

You made a whole thread over a minor technicality? Even if you are right, this isn't exactly a game-breaking issue.

This is BSN. People get off on proving others wrong. 

No, but its entertaining and I'm broke tonight and thus can't go out with my friends.  What better way to spend a Friday evening than on the BSN *SARCASM* (included that as I don't think you would've been able to tell otherwise)

[Ashen One]

You still mad.

[Ashen One]

Asebstos wrote...

If I hadn't just promoted my Soldiers I'd be trying this out using an Acolyte to take down the shields. Yes, some damage might bleed through to arrmor, but it will be an insignificant amount.

That's exactly why I chose to use the Acolyte instead of something like a Reegar, or Particle Rifle with Disruptor Ammo.

I'm glad to see there is at least one person with common sense in this obvious troll thread.

Modifié par Ashen Earth, 10 novembre 2012 - 02:07 .

[Ryan_H]

Mailak wrote...

OP don't try to use logic on the BSn. Despite that I have seen the game code correcting people on the forum is useless, they believe whatever BN(n) they want to and refuse to see logic or evidence that does not fit their belief.

LOL...this thread is full of proof of what you just said!  But still if you stand back and don't allow the trolls to get to you its amusing.

[KiraTsukasa]

Ryan_H wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

cowwy wrote...

Ryan_H wrote...


Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

Sounds like you're calling him a liar to me, just in a flowery language. It would help if your whole post didn't reek of bitterness.

Pretty much this. As a student in Theory of Knowledge courses, I can say that not valid = false, and in some context (this one in particular), false = lying.

I could delve a whole lot deeper, but I don't think anyone's even reading at this point.

What?  Bitterness?  Wow!  You must think the science community is full of bitter people as it is full of people who offer proofs and people who question the validity of those proofs.

Except that the science community is actually doing something productive instead of trying to destroy virtual mechs in a fictitous universe.

[sclera]

List of people who care about this:

- Ryan_H

[Apl_Juice]

Ryan_H wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Topographer wrote...

You made a whole thread over a minor technicality? Even if you are right, this isn't exactly a game-breaking issue.

This is BSN. People get off on proving others wrong. 

No, but its entertaining and I'm broke tonight and thus can't go out with my friends.  What better way to spend a Friday evening than on the BSN *SARCASM* (included that as I don't think you would've been able to tell otherwise)

Rationalize it anyway you want. This is the 3rd thread this argument has gone into; two of which were made by you. Looks to me like you care a lot about being right over what's probably less than 100 damage.