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[Ashen One]

Ultimas Dragon wrote...

To both sides of the "argument" who...the f*** cares..

Probably the guy who felt the need to post multiple threads about it, and make a public callout when I was offline.

[Learn To Love Yourself]

Bump. Can we get a real test done? Can someone use something less powerful than a GPSMG & NOT use any power bonus gear test this without doctoring the results, like Feneckus & Ashen Earth OBVIOUSLY have done?

I NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH! BIOWAREZ WE NEEDS BANS FOR DESE CHARLATANS! BUFF THE FLAM3R!

This thread was very entertaining, thank you, yet it was a total waste of time and I feel somehow stupider after reaching the end.

My condolensces to you, OP, for your loss. May your honor and pride rest in peace.

[Zero132132]

6 pages over someone calling someone else out... this is, indeed, BSN...

Modifié par Zero132132, 10 novembre 2012 - 03:15 .

[gilgamesh v9]

Note to self: Before making any claims on the internet, even if they are true, add "but I could be wrong".

[cowwy]

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

Note to self: Before making any claims on the internet, even if they are true, add "I'm wrong".

*fixed*

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

I'd say I wash my hands of this weirdness, but I'm not the guy who says this usually so...

[gilgamesh v9]

cowwy wrote...

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

Note to self: Before making any claims on the internet, even if they are true, add "I'm wrong".

*fixed*

Thank you 

[Ashen One]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

I'd say I wash my hands of this weirdness, but I'm not the guy who says this usually so...

Fixed.

[Knockingbr4in]

Well, that was a good laugh. Thanks OP.

[darkchief10]

after reading through this crap for three days

Seriously man, get over yourself, all you've succeeded in is making yourself look like an idiot. Even if you're right it doesn't matter. I'm sorry ashen hurt your feelings, now it's time to grow up.
Have a nice day

Modifié par darkchief10, 10 novembre 2012 - 03:28 .

[silencekills]

 Ashen's credibility is completely gone. Hacking your Acolyte to shoot Flamer bursts? For shame.

Anywho, would any of those who aren't hacking wretches post a video disproving Ashen's nonsensical claim, DONE RIGHT? With that huge increase to damage the gear provided, that previous video shouldn't even be bothered with.

[Ryan_H]

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ultimas Dragon wrote...

To both sides of the "argument" who...the f*** cares..

Probably the guy who felt the need to post multiple threads about it, and make a public callout when I was offline.

Wow, this is up to 6 pages!!  Definitely worth it!
And, no I don't know when you are online or offline.  Another baseless claim by Ashen!  I wonder if Fenechus will make a video attempting to prove me wrong! 

Modifié par Ryan_H, 10 novembre 2012 - 03:31 .

[Descy_]

bob2.0 wrote...

quoting so its on page 6 aswell.

[stayposi1990]

I request that this thread proceeds for my entertainment. Also, science.

[gilgamesh v9]

Ryan_H wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

Ultimas Dragon wrote...

To both sides of the "argument" who...the f*** cares..

Probably the guy who felt the need to post multiple threads about it, and make a public callout when I was offline.

Wow, this is up to 6 pages!!  Definitely worth it!
And, no I don't know when you are online or offline.  Another baseless claim by Ashen!  I wonder if Fenechus will make a video attempting to prove me wrong! 

Modifié par gilgamesh v9, 10 novembre 2012 - 03:39 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

stayposi1990 wrote...

I request that this thread proceeds for my entertainment. Also, science.

[3XT3RM1N4TUS]

I saved a lot of gifs, thanks.

[PoetryAvenger]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

When keepin' it real goes wrong.

Also, this thread in a nutshell:



Shouldn't have tried to ford that river, OP.

[gilgamesh v9]

manbearpig654 wrote...

I love it when this happens. OP gets ripped to shreds and his only defense is to pretend he was trolling the entire time. Marvelous.

I like it in the same way I like watching fights; its fun to watch, but in the end, someone is getting their ass kicked. 

[BridgeBurner]

Ryan_H wrote...

Yes, this a return to yesterday's argument with Ashen and his Fan Boy club.

Claim by Ashen Earth:

Ashen Earth wrote...Even without Hunter Mode, it's possible to destroy an Atlas on Gold from full armor with Flamer in one cast using a power amplifier III.
So I'm inclined to say no.

Link to quote: http://social.biowar...ndex/14858593/1

Why Ashen's claim and submitted proof are not valid:

1.  The numbers don't support it.

2.  In game, it is nigh impossible to determine the precise point that an atlas loses it's shields.    
a) It's impossible for Ashen to know the precise moment the shields were removed from the atlas he took down with his flamer.
Thus its near impossible to test Ashen's claim as you would  have to know the precise point to stop applying the non DOT damage used to take down the shields.  Maybe someone on the PC side with specialized testing software could do this.  

3.  It's clear in the animated animated gif (included at bottom of this post) that Ashen used bursts from his flamer to take down the atlas' shields prior to getting the single cast flamer kill.  It also appears that Ashen applied the flamer burst too long and damaged armor with the last burst duration prior to the single cast kill.  Either way each individual stack from those shielded bursts persist for 5 seconds.  

Thus the damage from the stacks applied by Ashen less than 5 seconds prior to the atlas losing its shields (an exact point Ashen could not know and a point he appears to have exceeded) persists to aid in the destruction of the atlas' armor thus invalidating Ashen's claim.  NOTE:  The stack damage carried over is not minor or negligible.   

Thoughts/Notes:

1.  First off let it be clear I'm not calling Ashen a liar.  Its a matter of seen and unseen damage and a seperation point that can't be discerned without specialized software on the client side.

2.  Several people have noted that Ashen is a good/great player.  I am not arguing that (nor am I confirming that).  And any DB fan boy statement pointing out Ashen's scoring ability as evidence as to why he is right I will ignore as its not relevant to this debate (my end) / argument (Ashen and his DB fan club's end).
  



Links:

My arguments and Ashen and his fan boys' insults:
http://social.biowar...ndex/14858593/1 and http://social.biowar...5951/2#14875702

Background data on Flamer Mechanics:
http://social.biowar...ndex/14865951/1

EDIT: Formatting
EDIT: Corrected spelling errors  Fan Body to Fan Boy lol

Ryan

Do you like garfield?

And secondly, I'm ****ing steaming, so lets do this flamer versus non flamer test now.

[Ryan_H]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

stayposi1990 wrote...

I request that this thread proceeds for my entertainment. Also, science.

Awesome!